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Just to add to the thread,,,I know most have seen the pic befor,,,but possibly not tree hands ....   Venus ,,half minshaw,,half coursing dog,,,littler sister to swift,,the black and white bitch fran

I wasn't ever going to comment on this thread ever , I wasn't prepared to say anything about the breed or the men although I've seen a few run and know a lot of the men mentioned including victor gh

I did manage to find a single photograph all be it not a great one. Can't really remember the night but the blue bitch in the picture belonged to my old mate from Workington.   The Handsome guy in

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THE START OV A 100 PAGE TOPIC .. VICTORS BLUE..

 

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so what bred u run' or what cross u favor.. credit where its due' this dog was a great dog in its lifetime....

ATB..B

 

That is a brilliant picture is that B :thumbs: ..like you say all the knockers,doubters,jealous feckers and even those that were lucky enough to see Blue and the other dogs of similar breeding of that era should all just take a bow and say exactly that "credit where credit is due" ..the proof was and is in the pudding ;) ..ATB Andy. :thumbs:

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Lads ill pin this topic as we can see its of great interest to a lot of members, BUT lets not ruin it with "sound bytes", challenges etc from other sites, nothing wrong with debate and discussion, but not sour grapes and jealousy.............

 

 

P.S. Frankel checks your pm's

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Sadly my bitch never fancied the fox game, they just wern't for her. she'd harrass and pull 'em all night but would stay well clear of the sharp end, let 'em up and start over again.

 

Top post that Bosun :thumbs: ..the above quote sums up the "majority" of the Minshaw bred dogs when it comes to that game imo? There will always be exceptions to the rule but for the amount of dogs that were/are on the ground of this type the good un's in the foxing game were few and far between imo?..my own old dogs could ALL be put into the same category as Bosun quoted above..yes they got em "in the end" but by feck it wasn't by the actions of a "proper" foxing machine :laugh: ..they never really interested me to the point other quarry did so i wasn't overly fussed myself but the lads who wanted them specifically for that task would of been better looking elsewhere if wanting a higher percentage chance of getting a dog for that job? ATB Andy. :thumbs:

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Travellers brother was put over a beddy x, there was 3 bitches from this litter round here both loved foxes more than anything, ken Gould bought 1 of them off my mate, a bitch called jack, lol...

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ANDY would vics blue be any better than the present dogs that run the dales,because there up and down so much was that his type of ground he would excel on

 

It's all hypothetical Jack isn't it? Different generations and all that? I know Blue wasn't running the Dales back in his day to amass his hauls,would he have equalled or bettered whats running there now in the Dales? I honestly don't know? ATB Andy

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Perfect Answer imo Andy as in my opinion that dog would of killed itself running on some of that dale's ground..but we will nevr know..as many have said awsome thread and keep it coming..but save some good stuff for the book.. :D:thumbs:

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max there several good dog men my mate d slieght people like my late freind who ran and one some good matches in good company cambrige cup poachers cup against joe kipper etcplus we poached pretty hard at nite with some of the same dogs , and my self but we never say to much about the dogs a little bit but not pages and pages as there no need to good dog men no good dogs, good breeding, etc its the hangers on who dont or jump on band wagon , like the minshaw thread lots of hangers on but only a few worldly people who have actauly traveld the world to hunt ,not just a rabbit,iv ehad the privledge to hunt and have good stock , bred down from good stock , but dont need a internet to back it up and loads of hangers on with more faces than a town clock ,hopefully he writes abook but the nets not the lace to find real hunting guys as most are selective ,no photo type guys at times , i hope he gets a book , but realy hees done his book here for what gloaters hangers on , fech that all the best

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