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He was exactly same when he was a pup Aaz..if I was lamping he was brilliant,if Ricky was and I was at the car there could of been a field full of gear and he would come back to the motor and me lol..it drove me insane haha..but stamina!! Shit it could run some gear, ask Ricky about night we took it with the blue fawn brother to him what Ricky called Andy lol..we ran 35 hares lol just as young dogs and Ricky thinks that night finished that Andy dog for running big nights,said it was never the same after that? That Red was still running and killing..thats what he was capable of but it was on his terms like you said..call him kinky,a jacker whatever you want but when the cnut wanted to put a shift in he was top class,he had big Fallow Bucks with your old man, foxes the lot,I tried him one time on a daft thing and he was loopy on it lol..I left him for fifteen minutes then dragged him off then he caught 15 hares with Chester lol..he was biggest dog in that litter..bred some canny pups your dad did out of him ")

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Just to add to the thread,,,I know most have seen the pic befor,,,but possibly not tree hands ....   Venus ,,half minshaw,,half coursing dog,,,littler sister to swift,,the black and white bitch fran

I wasn't ever going to comment on this thread ever , I wasn't prepared to say anything about the breed or the men although I've seen a few run and know a lot of the men mentioned including victor gh

I did manage to find a single photograph all be it not a great one. Can't really remember the night but the blue bitch in the picture belonged to my old mate from Workington.   The Handsome guy in

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Wouldnd mind a gander at this I like some of these types but nearly 500 pages fook that..

I've attempted it a couple of times.........& then I remember I've got other stuff to do before I die...haha

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