chartpolski 23,812 Posted July 6, 2012 Report Share Posted July 6, 2012 dosent bother me oldman Come on Aaz no need to get nasty, he is only 70 tell hin to shut his mouth then dont take there shit pal, pathetic grown men moaning aboot spelling an grammer About...... ABOUT........ You uncouth Scotts reject !!! Cheers. tell me aboot it... In the old days the likes of ye and Whin and that wee waister MM would have ended up in "The Naughty Boys Scool", Borstal, we knew it as. But these days ye wee 'ins have no respect for the likes of me or your Uncle Joe !! Cheers. 1 Quote Link to post
BLACKWATER... 157 Posted July 6, 2012 Report Share Posted July 6, 2012 arron lyk got colie crosses in my kennel mate lyk cacth a rabbit lyk and many more other things , but no a lover of to much coalie on a dog mate as i like an allround lurcher ,the minute you put to much collie in a dog you hit problems on ground run regulary , half or reverse three qaurter your losing pace for decent running land all been tried before arron ,arron had beardie collie lurchers colie greyhound whippet type all been decent rabbit dogs , and lamp dogs but once that winter wheat is through and there running well the collie saturated blood lacks agear and tiol at times Quote Link to post
chartpolski 23,812 Posted July 6, 2012 Report Share Posted July 6, 2012 They have been bred for generations to do a totaly different job to a Lurcher, so what possible advantage could they, Pointers, bring ? Cheers. Collies/ Bedlington terriers and sundry other dogs have been bred to do totally different jobs to a lurcher for generations yet they are added and bring qualitys to a lurcher line. What do pointers bring?, leg, nose, stamina and to be honest compared to a lot of lurchers I've seen, brain. And aren't there pleanty of tried and tested, for generations, breeds that bring leg, nose stamina to the "Lurcher" table, such as Deerhound, Saluki, etc ? I'll ask again. What will a Pointer bring to the table that recognised breeds can't ?? Cheers. To be brutally honest with you mate more than a deerhound or a saluki. Before we all go off on one sit back and think, no deerhound or saluki has the nose of a pointer, fact. No deerhound or saluki has the brain of a pointer, fact. Stamina, well there are different types, deerhounds I wouldn't equate with stamina, salukis running wise will have more stamina, but in an overall days hunting a pointer cross would be as capable. They have good feet and I've seen pointers kill foxes whilst I've seen many deerhounds and salukis refuse them. You use their pointing ability as a fault and to an extent your right for I would want any lurcher I owned to lift rather than point, but to be honest in thirty odd years I've seen tons of lurchers bred many different ways point their prey and not a drop of pointer blood in them. You put up a good debate, But my answer would be.... Why is there so many Deer and Saluki crosses; but such a dearth of Pointer crosses, if they have so much to offer ? Cheers. Quote Link to post
reddawn 2,173 Posted July 6, 2012 Report Share Posted July 6, 2012 stop licky licking folks rings then, an ill stop pointing it oot FFs a ain't licking anyone's barking star fish..i'm just trying to clarify the breed and name tag of my little pooch..you don't seem to like that for some strange reason.. look back, it was you that started moaning cos somebody called ye wee pooch a fookin colliex, an it is, so dont start that, an its blatantly obvious your licking folks arses, its there for all to see noo im away to play way me long nets, gee ye colliex a clap for me Quote Link to post
bunnys 1,228 Posted July 6, 2012 Report Share Posted July 6, 2012 They have been bred for generations to do a totaly different job to a Lurcher, so what possible advantage could they, Pointers, bring ? Cheers. Collies/ Bedlington terriers and sundry other dogs have been bred to do totally different jobs to a lurcher for generations yet they are added and bring qualitys to a lurcher line. What do pointers bring?, leg, nose, stamina and to be honest compared to a lot of lurchers I've seen, brain. he as a point got it right this time charti, any working animal up on the leg hardy and and trainable there can be got serviceable lurchers from , for taditional lurcher work .well atb bunnys. Quote Link to post
bunnys 1,228 Posted July 6, 2012 Report Share Posted July 6, 2012 play time over cocos ready got go earn a crust , atb bunnys ps as they say night charti night blackwater night moscow well thatll have to do nighty night all ha ha ha , have fun . atb bunnys. 1 Quote Link to post
BLACKWATER... 157 Posted July 6, 2012 Report Share Posted July 6, 2012 ye ye nite minshr man lke frankel lyke lol don a swuft lyke youse marras are dafter than the scots lol Quote Link to post
bigdaz 688 Posted July 6, 2012 Report Share Posted July 6, 2012 They have been bred for generations to do a totaly different job to a Lurcher, so what possible advantage could they, Pointers, bring ? Cheers. Collies/ Bedlington terriers and sundry other dogs have been bred to do totally different jobs to a lurcher for generations yet they are added and bring qualitys to a lurcher line. What do pointers bring?, leg, nose, stamina and to be honest compared to a lot of lurchers I've seen, brain. And aren't there pleanty of tried and tested, for generations, breeds that bring leg, nose stamina to the "Lurcher" table, such as Deerhound, Saluki, etc ? I'll ask again. What will a Pointer bring to the table that recognised breeds can't ?? Cheers. To be brutally honest with you mate more than a deerhound or a saluki. Before we all go off on one sit back and think, no deerhound or saluki has the nose of a pointer, fact. No deerhound or saluki has the brain of a pointer, fact. Stamina, well there are different types, deerhounds I wouldn't equate with stamina, salukis running wise will have more stamina, but in an overall days hunting a pointer cross would be as capable. They have good feet and I've seen pointers kill foxes whilst I've seen many deerhounds and salukis refuse them. You use their pointing ability as a fault and to an extent your right for I would want any lurcher I owned to lift rather than point, but to be honest in thirty odd years I've seen tons of lurchers bred many different ways point their prey and not a drop of pointer blood in them. You put up a good debate, But my answer would be.... Why is there so many Deer and Saluki crosses; but such a dearth of Pointer crosses, if they have so much to offer ? Cheers. Well in my opinon, for what it's worth the average lurcherman of the last twenty years or so has become either a point and fire type or a lamping type and what better than two running dogs/sighthounds bred together. From a lurcher point of view, hunting/marking/retrieving/feather/waterwork and so on, then a pointer/greyhound cross would fit the bill better than a deerhound or a saluki cross. 1 Quote Link to post
BLACKWATER... 157 Posted July 6, 2012 Report Share Posted July 6, 2012 (edited) big dazz you saw many work i had the pleasure to see a few the lads who use them up on the moors and keep them kenneld up there hardy dogs they rated them as working hunting lurchers ,saw a nice little black and white bitch very racy a good dog , would have took her home, the rest were bred for on the hill big rangy, pest control dogs , got my own type but wouldnt knock them as they are hardy working dogs pure pionters ,a boy on the lammermuir bred a few Edited July 6, 2012 by BLACKWATER... Quote Link to post
Millet 4,497 Posted July 6, 2012 Report Share Posted July 6, 2012 look back, it was you that started moaning cos somebody called ye wee pooch a fookin colliex, an it is, so dont start that, an its blatantly obvious your licking folks arses, its there for all to see noo im away to play way me long nets, gee ye colliex a clap for me I don't have a clue what you are on about to be honest..but if it make's you happy to twist on about pointless inaccurate shite then crack on.. Quote Link to post
chartpolski 23,812 Posted July 6, 2012 Report Share Posted July 6, 2012 They have been bred for generations to do a totaly different job to a Lurcher, so what possible advantage could they, Pointers, bring ? Cheers. Collies/ Bedlington terriers and sundry other dogs have been bred to do totally different jobs to a lurcher for generations yet they are added and bring qualitys to a lurcher line. What do pointers bring?, leg, nose, stamina and to be honest compared to a lot of lurchers I've seen, brain. And aren't there pleanty of tried and tested, for generations, breeds that bring leg, nose stamina to the "Lurcher" table, such as Deerhound, Saluki, etc ? I'll ask again. What will a Pointer bring to the table that recognised breeds can't ?? Cheers. To be brutally honest with you mate more than a deerhound or a saluki. Before we all go off on one sit back and think, no deerhound or saluki has the nose of a pointer, fact. No deerhound or saluki has the brain of a pointer, fact. Stamina, well there are different types, deerhounds I wouldn't equate with stamina, salukis running wise will have more stamina, but in an overall days hunting a pointer cross would be as capable. They have good feet and I've seen pointers kill foxes whilst I've seen many deerhounds and salukis refuse them. You use their pointing ability as a fault and to an extent your right for I would want any lurcher I owned to lift rather than point, but to be honest in thirty odd years I've seen tons of lurchers bred many different ways point their prey and not a drop of pointer blood in them. You put up a good debate, But my answer would be.... Why is there so many Deer and Saluki crosses; but such a dearth of Pointer crosses, if they have so much to offer ? Cheers. Well in my opinon, for what it's worth the average lurcherman of the last twenty years or so has become either a point and fire type or a lamping type and what better than two running dogs/sighthounds bred together. From a lurcher point of view, hunting/marking/retrieving/feather/waterwork and so on, then a pointer/greyhound cross would fit the bill better than a deerhound or a saluki cross. Well, I'm not stuck in the past, (or present), and I've seen some very nice looking English Pointers, (which I'm led to believe have Greyhound blood in them, anyway), so if any of them are crossed into Lurcher lines, and the prodgeny make the grade, I'll be pleasently supprised ! Cheers. Quote Link to post
bigdaz 688 Posted July 6, 2012 Report Share Posted July 6, 2012 They have been bred for generations to do a totaly different job to a Lurcher, so what possible advantage could they, Pointers, bring ? Cheers. Collies/ Bedlington terriers and sundry other dogs have been bred to do totally different jobs to a lurcher for generations yet they are added and bring qualitys to a lurcher line. What do pointers bring?, leg, nose, stamina and to be honest compared to a lot of lurchers I've seen, brain. And aren't there pleanty of tried and tested, for generations, breeds that bring leg, nose stamina to the "Lurcher" table, such as Deerhound, Saluki, etc ? I'll ask again. What will a Pointer bring to the table that recognised breeds can't ?? Cheers. To be brutally honest with you mate more than a deerhound or a saluki. Before we all go off on one sit back and think, no deerhound or saluki has the nose of a pointer, fact. No deerhound or saluki has the brain of a pointer, fact. Stamina, well there are different types, deerhounds I wouldn't equate with stamina, salukis running wise will have more stamina, but in an overall days hunting a pointer cross would be as capable. They have good feet and I've seen pointers kill foxes whilst I've seen many deerhounds and salukis refuse them. You use their pointing ability as a fault and to an extent your right for I would want any lurcher I owned to lift rather than point, but to be honest in thirty odd years I've seen tons of lurchers bred many different ways point their prey and not a drop of pointer blood in them. You put up a good debate, But my answer would be.... Why is there so many Deer and Saluki crosses; but such a dearth of Pointer crosses, if they have so much to offer ? Cheers. Well in my opinon, for what it's worth the average lurcherman of the last twenty years or so has become either a point and fire type or a lamping type and what better than two running dogs/sighthounds bred together. From a lurcher point of view, hunting/marking/retrieving/feather/waterwork and so on, then a pointer/greyhound cross would fit the bill better than a deerhound or a saluki cross. Well, I'm not stuck in the past, (or present), and I've seen some very nice looking English Pointers, (which I'm led to believe have Greyhound blood in them, anyway), so if any of them are crossed into Lurcher lines, and the prodgeny make the grade, I'll be pleasently supprised ! Cheers. So would you consider a deerhound/greyhound or a saluki/greyhound to be a lurcher??. On the subject of pointer influence, and I'm not splitting hairs here, but when I think pointer I, myself and I think most people are thinking GSP's or GWP's. Incidentally I have a weimaraner here, which is technically a pointer that is more obedient is a better finder of game, is a better retriever has more stamina and jumps better than the majority of lurchers I've seen. For what it's worth I think you could do a lot worse than breeding an HPR into a lurcher line. Quote Link to post
pritch 335 Posted July 6, 2012 Report Share Posted July 6, 2012 They have been bred for generations to do a totaly different job to a Lurcher, so what possible advantage could they, Pointers, bring ? Cheers. Collies/ Bedlington terriers and sundry other dogs have been bred to do totally different jobs to a lurcher for generations yet they are added and bring qualitys to a lurcher line. What do pointers bring?, leg, nose, stamina and to be honest compared to a lot of lurchers I've seen, brain. And aren't there pleanty of tried and tested, for generations, breeds that bring leg, nose stamina to the "Lurcher" table, such as Deerhound, Saluki, etc ? I'll ask again. What will a Pointer bring to the table that recognised breeds can't ?? Cheers. well the one i have heard about have all liked teeth which with the collies can be a lottery Quote Link to post
bunnys 1,228 Posted July 7, 2012 Report Share Posted July 7, 2012 They have been bred for generations to do a totaly different job to a Lurcher, so what possible advantage could they, Pointers, bring ? Cheers. Collies/ Bedlington terriers and sundry other dogs have been bred to do totally different jobs to a lurcher for generations yet they are added and bring qualitys to a lurcher line. What do pointers bring?, leg, nose, stamina and to be honest compared to a lot of lurchers I've seen, brain. And aren't there pleanty of tried and tested, for generations, breeds that bring leg, nose stamina to the "Lurcher" table, such as Deerhound, Saluki, etc ? I'll ask again. What will a Pointer bring to the table that recognised breeds can't ?? Cheers. To be brutally honest with you mate more than a deerhound or a saluki. Before we all go off on one sit back and think, no deerhound or saluki has the nose of a pointer, fact. No deerhound or saluki has the brain of a pointer, fact. Stamina, well there are different types, deerhounds I wouldn't equate with stamina, salukis running wise will have more stamina, but in an overall days hunting a pointer cross would be as capable. They have good feet and I've seen pointers kill foxes whilst I've seen many deerhounds and salukis refuse them. You use their pointing ability as a fault and to an extent your right for I would want any lurcher I owned to lift rather than point, but to be honest in thirty odd years I've seen tons of lurchers bred many different ways point their prey and not a drop of pointer blood in them. You put up a good debate, But my answer would be.... Why is there so many Deer and Saluki crosses; but such a dearth of Pointer crosses, if they have so much to offer ? Cheers. Well in my opinon, for what it's worth the average lurcherman of the last twenty years or so has become either a point and fire type or a lamping type and what better than two running dogs/sighthounds bred together. From a lurcher point of view, hunting/marking/retrieving/feather/waterwork and so on, then a pointer/greyhound cross would fit the bill better than a deerhound or a saluki cross. Well, I'm not stuck in the past, (or present), and I've seen some very nice looking English Pointers, (which I'm led to believe have Greyhound blood in them, anyway), so if any of them are crossed into Lurcher lines, and the prodgeny make the grade, I'll be pleasently supprised ! Cheers. So would you consider a deerhound/greyhound or a saluki/greyhound to be a lurcher??. On the subject of pointer influence, and I'm not splitting hairs here, but when I think pointer I, myself and I think most people are thinking GSP's or GWP's. Incidentally I have a weimaraner here, which is technically a pointer that is more obedient is a better finder of game, is a better retriever has more stamina and jumps better than the majority . personelly daz i would consider 2 pure hounds asight hound , and as for the gsp or any of the hunt point retrieve types including the golden retriever , they all have just has much if not a better option for todays general lurcherman , fora start they all hunt game and strictly keeping are only usually kept by those who either shoot or fly hawks avery good point made and good post. atb bunnys. Quote Link to post
bunnys 1,228 Posted July 7, 2012 Report Share Posted July 7, 2012 ye ye nite minshr man lke frankel lyke lol don a swuft lyke youse marras are dafter than the scots lol that a got ya laughing hey ther blackwater. oh its asfunny down here as it his up there. atb bunnys, Quote Link to post
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