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i fancy you still need fast dogs frankel,if your game is raodin then from a motor it pays to have a bit of speed on your side,better to have and not need then need and not have..

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Just to add to the thread,,,I know most have seen the pic befor,,,but possibly not tree hands ....   Venus ,,half minshaw,,half coursing dog,,,littler sister to swift,,the black and white bitch fran

I wasn't ever going to comment on this thread ever , I wasn't prepared to say anything about the breed or the men although I've seen a few run and know a lot of the men mentioned including victor gh

I did manage to find a single photograph all be it not a great one. Can't really remember the night but the blue bitch in the picture belonged to my old mate from Workington.   The Handsome guy in

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is there still a need to breed the speedy kind of dogs, or are more folk adapting with the times and returning to the collie and beddy x's?

 

genuine question for folk to answer??

 

Well,with the way the hunting laws are these days and the shit that can come from it if you are careless or reckless enough to break that law i personally think that to play "safe" then the Collie curs and wee Beddy's are a great option?..Just my opinion though...ATB Andy. ;)

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I've seen fast greyhoundy type lurchers that hunt up mark holes and other aspects of lurcher work, IMO, a more suitable stud or dam than a full grey which may well be faster but has no other qualities to add. I've only ever known a couple of guys in a lot of years that have mated a proven good working line to a pure greyhound simply because the dogs were starting to look like curs/stocky or as I would call them workmanlike. I don't think the lines were ever improved but I suppose they were more pleasing to the eye, which brings me nicely onto the topic of showing, rarely if ever do you see a heavily built lurcher win shows as most people (judges included) equate greyhoundy shape with a working lurcher, this is I believe why most people who would breed to a greyhound do so

Another quick point, the greyhound enthusiasts reel off the titles/wins of suitable studs, what is the actual difference between a great greyhound and say an average one ? ok if I was breeding from a grey and I had the choice of using a winner or a runnerup I'd use the winner but in the great scale of things would it actually make that much difference when added to a line lurcher to lurcher that had been bred for generations.

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Now i know "jack shit" to be perfectly honest about the coursing side of things so without making a dick of myself or trying not to :icon_redface: ..this dog Buddy that seems highly spoken of how come it's had several owners in the past? Baz said earlier on here that even Vic Minshaw owned the dog at one time? Surely if it was that good it wouldn't of been passed around? What has it's latest owner got from the dog that others couldn't apart from the ££££ off stud fees lol?...just intrigued to know really?..ain't that fussed as like i said i know feck all about them just hear a lot of talk about the Buddy dog?...ATB Andy. :victory:

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i prefer a fast dog that can run slow..

 

i like a dog that uses its head... when on rabbits they don't clash themselves and goes up and down gears to pick them up, but on bigger game there like dynamite and end the course quick no pussy footing about!!

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

sounds a bit like SWIFT i am talking about :toast:

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Now i know "jack shit" to be perfectly honest about the coursing side of things so without making a dick of myself or trying not to :icon_redface: ..this dog Buddy that seems highly spoken of how come it's had several owners in the past? Baz said earlier on here that even Vic Minshaw owned the dog at one time? Surely if it was that good it wouldn't of been passed around? What has it's latest owner got from the dog that others couldn't apart from the ££££ off stud fees lol?...just intrigued to know really?..ain't that fussed as like i said i know feck all about them just hear a lot of talk about the Buddy dog?...ATB Andy. :victory:

 

Probably it's present owners name as much as it's ability, Andy.

 

Cheers.

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can i bum you up abit frankel lol,no it ok your doing a great job yourself lol

thanks mate, nothing wrong with a bit of light hearted banter!! i am trying to cheer up moscow to stop him self harming :laugh:

its to late whins pushed him over the edge hes went for the rope lol
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