FUJI 17,327 Posted June 16, 2012 Report Share Posted June 16, 2012 Andy have YOU ever bred a litter of minshaw type lurchers from a greyhound? Yes,i have Joe...this dog below was from it...just a question then guys if you don't mind please?...if you wouldn't use a Greyhound either as a Stud or as a Dam would you use a dog which had a Greyhound as a parent to cover or be covered by your own dogs? 1 Quote Link to post
NEWSBOY 306 Posted June 16, 2012 Report Share Posted June 16, 2012 yes i would, if it was a good animal in the field, should have more stamina, brain, rugged edge, like i said i like greyhounds but like lurchers more. 1 Quote Link to post
hedz31 1,308 Posted June 16, 2012 Report Share Posted June 16, 2012 Andy have YOU ever bred a litter of minshaw type lurchers from a greyhound? Yes,i have Joe...this dog below was from it...just a question then guys if you don't mind please?...if you wouldn't use a Greyhound either as a Stud or as a Dam would you use a dog which had a Greyhound as a parent to cover or be covered by your own dogs? Possibly if it was a decent animal but would much prefer a gen bred animal but even so an animal with a greyhound as its parent is still a lurcher is it not Quote Link to post
NEWSBOY 306 Posted June 16, 2012 Report Share Posted June 16, 2012 question for you andy, was the gh x minshaw better than the lurcher x lurcher? Quote Link to post
FUJI 17,327 Posted June 16, 2012 Report Share Posted June 16, 2012 (edited) Here's the Nikey Greyhound here...he's the fawn dog,he was like an owld lurcher lol.. Edited June 28, 2012 by poacherspocket22 1 Quote Link to post
FUJI 17,327 Posted June 16, 2012 Report Share Posted June 16, 2012 question for you andy, was the gh x minshaw better than the lurcher x lurcher? It certainly never had as much wind..it did kill 20 hares from 21 runs one night with the same dog on the picture Patch,mullered deer and foxes too,could get a decent tally on the bunnies too...definately wouldn't be the best dog i seen but was a million miles away from being the worst too? For what it's worth i'd always go lurcher x lurcher if possible but if and i thought i needed to go to a Greyhound then i wouldn't be kennel blind into dismissing them from my plans? ATB Andy. 1 Quote Link to post
Guest Moscow Posted June 16, 2012 Report Share Posted June 16, 2012 Yes,i have Joe...this dog below was from it...just a question then guys if you don't mind please?...if you wouldn't use a Greyhound either as a Stud or as a Dam would you use a dog which had a Greyhound as a parent to cover or be covered by your own dogs? I didnt think you had Andy, was the litter anygood? To answer your question I would probably use a such a dog if there was nothing else available from the line to continue a line, the said dog is a lurcher and a better option than a pure greyhound anyday IMO.... Lurcher x lurcher from proven parents for me everytime. Money is not the object for me when breeding lurchers though! 1 Quote Link to post
Guest Moscow Posted June 16, 2012 Report Share Posted June 16, 2012 (edited) Totally agree whith max I lke a dog way speed breeding lurchers to lurchers yes if there fast enough but that will dilute in genarations patch was from blue and did the job my bitch ruby from jack and the grey looks short coupled and has a fair bit of speed max the dog from jack and visa is very fast I doubt if there is a dog that could stay way him speed wise you will always need speed there is nothing worse than a slow lurchers whithout greyhound or whippet we would have nothing again some will be great some won't I'd rather breed speed than to a plodder anyday and peddling if you have 2 good dogs you charge the rate you think there worth end off time planning raring don't come cheap max has owned some good dogs in his time that's for shure each to there own I no the road iam going down atb yes il keep it tight but whith speed always If thats what you think then why the pm's asking me for a line off Maurice? ffs just use a greyhound Edited June 16, 2012 by Moscow 2 Quote Link to post
NEWSBOY 306 Posted June 16, 2012 Report Share Posted June 16, 2012 (edited) cheers andy, i like dogs to run fast enough if you know what i mean? the greyhounds ive seen run balls out, and scared me to death . Edited June 16, 2012 by NEWSBOY Quote Link to post
FUJI 17,327 Posted June 16, 2012 Report Share Posted June 16, 2012 To be honest Joe,i kept a red dog but it didn't see 14 week old and i put 3 to sleep when just days old they were weak things ,the only two i seen at work was that dog my brother owned on the picture and the little black & white bitch my brother in law owned called Blaze..they were out of Bulpa x Grey..Blaze was the dam to Meg (Flying Carpet) and Tara etc: Tara was the dam to Flick,Flint,Polly,Jess,Flame etc:...1/2 Grey's of any type don't really suit my type of hunting but someone has to add them sooner or later? ..ATB Andy. Quote Link to post
poacher28 120 Posted June 16, 2012 Report Share Posted June 16, 2012 I dont dislike the greyhound by anymeans. Just for me ther is no need to cross one to a good line of lurcher. i belive a well worked lurcher will stand more of a chance on producing good working offspring. in my opinion its chancey breeding from a greyhoumd to a lurcher. as most men who have breed lurchers will agree with me im sure , breeding worker x worker there will be pups that wont make thegrade. so if breeding worker x worker produces 3 good pups from 6/7 pups. i belive the chances of a grey producing grater numbers of pups makeing the grade alot slimer. just my opinion. 1 Quote Link to post
Phil Lloyd 10,738 Posted June 16, 2012 Report Share Posted June 16, 2012 Folk tend to go down the greyhound route, when they are either dissatisfied or disappointed, with a certain type of lurcher..." It needs more speed, more size,.more,.whatever...." They can see no further, than the algebraic equations, of three quarter breeds, three eights x five eights, etc, etc,.. And for those that just are 'in it' for the short term,..such an action is possibly the best way to go,.. BUT to produce a hunting dog (not merely a hare courser or a racer),... but a find-um,.feckem, fetch-um on home merchant,..well,..personaly, I would always favour using a tried and tested, quick killing Saluki type of critter, as opposed to putting in more Greyhound pace... For what it has been created for, the Greyhound really is the Daddy,....no doubts about that,....but,.I prefer a good lurcher, put over, a good lurcher Quote Link to post
FUJI 17,327 Posted June 16, 2012 Report Share Posted June 16, 2012 Nearly 100,000 views and 200 pages in only a month ...for a bunch of mongrel curs they certainly attract some attention :laugh: Quote Link to post
FUJI 17,327 Posted June 16, 2012 Report Share Posted June 16, 2012 I dont dislike the greyhound by anymeans. Just for me ther is no need to cross one to a good line of lurcher. i belive a well worked lurcher will stand more of a chance on producing good working offspring. in my opinion its chancey breeding from a greyhoumd to a lurcher. as most men who have breed lurchers will agree with me im sure , breeding worker x worker there will be pups that wont make thegrade. so if breeding worker x worker produces 3 good pups from 6/7 pups. i belive the chances of a grey producing grater numbers of pups makeing the grade alot slimer. just my opinion. Good points there Poacher28 1 Quote Link to post
Guest Moscow Posted June 16, 2012 Report Share Posted June 16, 2012 Andy greyhounds have had there place in br eeding lurchers thats for sure it would be a last resort and extreme push for me to take dogs from pure greyhound parents these days. As for greyhound grand parents well yes I would consider them a lot more. In my original post I said there is no need to add greyhound blood to proven lines IMO and i stick by that. 2 Quote Link to post
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