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freelance stayed down there many a nite when i tell him about the crap on here he laughs , not saw him for ages ye he liked the salmo used to have diahatsus, he was the first guy i saw with the pie dog cross , he used to go on about cumbria and areas he says you could fill your bag easy , he has done alot of hunting in his time freelance the stoops estate ahah some place

He was a rum fecker thats for sure, he put me onto were the sika were in his neck of the woods ! He was the first person i ever heard of driving the land lamping and like i said he sure liked his salmos :thumbs: Cheers Atb
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Just to add to the thread,,,I know most have seen the pic befor,,,but possibly not tree hands ....   Venus ,,half minshaw,,half coursing dog,,,littler sister to swift,,the black and white bitch fran

I wasn't ever going to comment on this thread ever , I wasn't prepared to say anything about the breed or the men although I've seen a few run and know a lot of the men mentioned including victor gh

I did manage to find a single photograph all be it not a great one. Can't really remember the night but the blue bitch in the picture belonged to my old mate from Workington.   The Handsome guy in

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i had the first subaru pick up model he had the diahtsu we drove alot of land still do ye bought several nets of him and his old mate ,is he still on the stoops , used to use the dingy method and drift the pools , he was a rum fecher but like a few of us he new the game , used to do abit coursing down his and spy the sikas not far from his ,he makes most of them on here like asunday school outing lol,i never bought a dogof him but we had some good crack and abit wheeling and dealing

He definatley did a bit of wheelin and dealin and sold a few dogs in his time :laugh: , how did you get to know him whin he is a long way off your lands ? :thumbs: Cheers atb
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guys had a few back in the ninties but were not suitable for the land we were running so they went to good homes the only guys i no personaly who have had that blood is lads from liverpool , dont seem to be popular up our way since saluk types terrier typets took over but i like them , just not all the hangers on about a fourlegged freind, you have to remember i like collie types but i know there not great hare dogs ,only had a few who could rock them on good fast open land, but there good dogs as moochers and opurtunist ,got freinds in annan had one a part from that there to diluted now mate ,traveler a nice dog, swift not bad , but some are mongrly but probaly good mooching dogs , andy saw dogs all over here, usa, to there nothing that i havent seen , my old mate baz gorton had a few minshaws years ago , just dont seem popular round the east coast mate , p douglas had a well bred colie cross she could lift rabbs, m cglenn had abeardie that lifted rabbs roe sika hare saw several collie types not bad dogs , minshaws or should i say colie types be just the same mate ,just the dont need a hundred pages about them.to make people remember them,

is it baz from burnley ?

bg the dog peddlar yes whin i know him likes his nets like you but dont think he would come on here with the green eyed monster like you do you think your the only one that run big lands or had dogs with wind not sayin you havent done it but your a legend in your own mind you sound like someone who writes romatic novels poacher chased on the lords manor after one for the pot give the lads and dogs credit they put alot of gear away get over it

Like blackmagpie said whin, the lads have put some gear to bed and its the internet so people like to hear about it. Its only the same as old shooting news and EDRD and you your self have put articles in EDRD, its just this a bigger audience and a faster response :thumbs: Atb
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suppose ive alway been brought up to be a bit careful as in scotland the laws are wee bit more severe mate , just a diffrent aspect to the way you flaunt youre self i suppose ,ye alot of us have caut alot of gear away 97 freinds of mine 179 roe 283 hare all legal lol, and thousands of rabbs on wide open biggish land takes abit of stopping but i leave things like that in the past or for close freinds and invited guests best way mate, dogs are dogs mate there a bit sport and if you breed clever you get good dogs ,and work them hard you get to see there good piobt and faults ,but when yousee lots of hangers on on athread who havent probaly walked the walk like baz a few others it make syou wonder the qaulity your talking to at times

I don't doubt that whin, local to me i know lads that don't catch a carrot with there dogs and probably never will. They have never had quality dogs and never will and even if you give them one they would still catch fook all and fook the dog up because they genuinely do not have a clue. But i wouldn't call them hangers on, there just like other people in life and are happy with there little lot and what there doing. There not driven or motivated people, and are mostly like that in all avenues of there life, but that's just folk for you :thumbs: Cheers Atb
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Please keep this on topic gents

 

Whin, if you'd care to regale us with tales of your days and nights out, please feel free to start a topic of your own.

 

There's potentially lots of lads and lasses on here who would love to hear about your exploits and not you bringing other lads' achievements down

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I agree with max, simoman, Jasper or even your understudy malt :D delete whines ramblings, I know it'll deplete the thread under the magic 100 pages, probably by 50, but it'll be all the better for it

 

Andy, excellent thread, good book in there. Don't be surprised if you don't read some of the stories in adaptations from so called experts ;).

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Aye i get your drift Whin matey,I don't think it's EVER been shouted from the rooftops that these types were out and out hare dogs as far as I am aware? Lamping anything that's worth a few bob was more their forte IMO? Exceptions to that there will obviously be though? Personally I think they have shown great longevity in this owld game of hunting? It doesn't take a brain surgeon to know that the blood of the pinnacle dog of this type in Blue is getting thinner in dogs around today but IMO some of the dogs since Blue have been bloody good animals and are more than worthy of breeding off? ATB Andy

 

good answer andy, would you say then is any of todays dogs bred, is as good as blue.? The one thing comes over to me about blue is he was great dog with strike and (stamina) , but there must loads of coursing type dogs of today with the same attribute's .Iknow these type( are or were) bred for day time hares , but if trained for the lamp like blue , what great dogs they would make.!!

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Andy you mention Bulpa,Jack and Chester as being among the best you've owned........were there many differences in there running style? The Bulpa dog was built very differently to Jack and Chester was his style more determined based as looking at him he didnt look the raciest, I know looks and build can mean nothing.

 

Hope I got what I mean in words. :D

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So far this morning, the thread has stayed on the subject of minshaws and their capaabililties and not been been ruined by someone with jealousy and seems to have a real hatred to those that seem to be doing better and knocking him off his pedastal....hope the f**k he keeps away and starts his own thread.

 

I'd like to know as wel,l how Chester runs/ran for obvious reasons compared to other Minshaws. Xena has a nice style to her running, with intelligence mixed with drive. Although due to her lack of age(experience) she can put too much into it. Hopefully with time & experience she'll learn to use the gears at the right time and the right place, giving her more energy/stamina for the rest of a hunting session. She's taken all but charlie (not sure if she ever will), so i'm happy with that but running with hares seems to be her niche.

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max there several good dog men my mate d slieght people like my late freind who ran and one some good matches in good company cambrige cup poachers cup against joe kipper etcplus we poached pretty hard at nite with some of the same dogs , and my self but we never say to much about the dogs a little bit but not pages and pages as there no need to good dog men no good dogs, good breeding, etc its the hangers on who dont or jump on band wagon , like the minshaw thread lots of hangers on but only a few worldly people who have actauly traveld the world to hunt ,not just a rabbit,iv ehad the privledge to hunt and have good stock , bred down from good stock , but dont need a internet to back it up and loads of hangers on with more faces than a town clock ,hopefully he writes abook but the nets not the lace to find real hunting guys as most are selective ,no photo type guys at times , i hope he gets a book , but realy hees done his book here for what gloaters hangers on , fech that all the best

whin ma mate was out fereting way your mate dave. i asked him was his dogs any good. his reply was thay were a load of pish. all they done was yap on every rabbit the bolted.

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