MINSHAW .....

[D Lloyd 2,790]

some good right ups and history lads keep the pics coming andy theres guys trying to make a name on the net that have not had 1 10th of the stuff you have well done mate.

 

daz dont now the bigest topics on here mp had some a wile back but all about him not the dogs lol

 

how can one man condemn a line of lurchers as he made the mistaaes with his bitch

those minshaws can hold their own with any line that is about today

[Gaz_1989 9,539]

It's the best thread on here in a long while.

[nighttimenellie 4]

I dont come on here much as its all bullshit and sniping,but on one of my rare visits i yet again come on and see that i am slagged off by people that i thought were my friends, well as i have obviously been mistaken the gloves are now off.

here are some truth, now there are many who may not like me as i dont really have any time for anyone i have always just trod my own path and left others to talk their bullshit, but even people who dont like me would never call me a liar, so when i say this is the truth , it is exactly that, i am only going to adress the points that have been made about me, its up to the rest of you to make your own judgements about the people you call your friends i really couldnt give a feck.

first off i have been told that the litter of pups i bred were in a poor state now to be honest i cant find where that was said so i take it it has been edited but to the person who said it, i have these pups on dvd at3, 4, 5, and 6(and as no one seen them before that age that should be sufficiant) weeks of age i am willing to send you a copy, and if these pups are in a poor state you can copy it and send it to anyone you like, BUT if they are in fine fettle YOU MAKE A £1000 DONATION TO A CHARITY OF MY CHOICE now lets see whos telling the truth i will also accept a public appology if you dont have the guts to stand by your claims.

another thing stated as a fact is that all the pups out of the litter were shite appart from Ruby, says who? YOU! have you seen them run ask Rubys owner if her sister is shit, just because i dont come on here and boast about my dogs doesnt mean they are shite, i have ran her along side plenty other dogs and have never seen her out classed by anything, infact i dont know of dog better than her round our way(although i am biased lol).

third point made was about the dog rehomed from the litter NOW HERE IS THE TRUTH ON THAT MATTER the lad who bought him phoned me when the dog was about six months old telling me it was the best dog he had ever had, and it was killing hares in front of an older deerhound cross(the lad comes on here ) now i dont know if thats true or not but it is what the lad himself told me.Now then the lad died which is very sad, and out of the blue i get a phonecall from Andy telling me he had a chance to get this dog , or had got this dog i cant remember which,and what did i think , and i told him straight DONT TOUCH IT WITH A BARGE POLE told him it had run hares at six months and would be very lucky if it wasnt a yapper, but he either took or had the dog anyway, now during that phonecall Andy told me that the dog had been kept in a kennel for a YEAR it was in very very poor condition but i cant remember him saying it had a cough, like Giro said,he might have but i dont recall it, just that it hadnt been out for a walk in at least a year and it nails were bad and it was in a very sorry state,BETWEEN A WEEK AND 10 DAYS LATER THIS DOG WAS TAKEN DOWN THE DALES AND RUN, i will leave you to make your own judgements on that.

Lastly as for flame and being kept in the house and thats why he quit, hmmmmmmm red was kept outside he quit , now why is that not the owners fault , if they quit inside and its my fault and they quit outside that also must be down to the owner, also i have been told that flames brother was kinky on the rabbits now as far as i know that was kept outside so that theory is pish aswell although stated as a hard fact by Andy, ALL my dog are kept for the first year in the house why havnt they all jacked? Here is some more truths about minshaws, SOME OF THEM JACK, it is a well known fact there are loads of them go kinky on rabbits, not hares as a rule , you pays your money and takes your choice, now flame caught more than most so called good dogs and on his day i would have put him up against anything that has been around for the past 5 years but he was one fecking kinky bugger but i never came on here moaning about the lads who bred him or slagging off the breeding because i am a big boy and i have been in this game a long time and i know its a toss of a coin when you pick a pup, if 2 out a litter of 10 make anything you have done well, again i will state Flame could catch anything DAY and night (except foxes he was a right fanny lol) he caught genuine daytime sheep grazed fields hares with -100 yard head starts on him(i am not claiming he got 3 out of 3 or even 2 out of 3 but he did catch them), he never quit on hares but did have that kinky minshaw rabbit thing which was infuriating, i rehomed him when he was 5 or 6 not sure as he had a bad leg, when ran hard he would always be limping badly the next day i have been in touch with the people who have him and he is in Blackpool having a great life with a family who absolutly love him, so that the truth about Flame i loved that dog but he did drive me to the edge of despair sometimes lol, was it because he was kept inside,COME ON NOW do you really believe that Andy, you have been in the game a long time and comments like that really are beneath you.

well thats me done i dont want to stray into the truth on other stuff that has been said on here as it doesnt concern me, but i am hurt that people i thought of as friends couldnt wait to stick the knife in, if any of it was true i would hold my hands up, as far as i know in my whole life i have let one dog down, the lad knows about it and it was a right kerfuffle over it, but at the end of the day it was my fault and i accept it and still feel sorry about it, but i cant change it now, and i hope we have moved on from it. i am not going to get into a slangging match over my post but i do have the right to face my accusers and reply to untruths told about me, would have preferred to have done it over more privately but i wasnt the one that made it a public issue but i am gutted that someone i respected as a good dog lad and friend has lied about me, but there you go , all the best Nellie

[FUJI 17,324]

Hey up Nellie..i think you'll find i didn't say anything about keeping the dog in the house made it jack? I did say i wouldn't ever keep my working dogs inside. Feel free to quote whatever it is that i did say though? As for saying about the pups being in a sad state that is utter pish fella!!..that has never been said on this topic EVER..so i think Giro has got his wires crossed there somewhere along the lines but again i stand to be corrected on that? As for Jazz Nellie this is her below the day we brought her home albeit after a bath lol as she stunk

 

 

i can't recall how many days it was until i took her out but if it's what you said (my memory is shit at times) then i still never ran that many bunnies with her anyways,she ran into a fence and then a wall so that was her back on the leash after just a handful of spins..this is that trip below..doesn't look in to bad a nick to me? How about you?

 

 

as for Red i've said it as it was about him,he didn't have the same desire for the game as me,had stamina like you wouldn't believe on a going day but only he knew when that was going to be?..I certainly haven't called you a liar ANYWHERE Nellie i never would so where do you think in this thread i have done so?..anyhow matey,keep on keeping on..we all know every dog ain't gonna make the grade if it was that easy life would just be too easy ..keep at it fella..ATB Andy.

 

EDITED to add..yes Nellie on looking back through the topic there is no mention of the dog being kept in the house and the debate about it so i guess it must of been edited fella but i certainly never said thats what caused Flame to jack on bunnies? ..oh and edited to add again i did say about Giro's been the only decent one in the litter as i believed you got rid of your bitch Star (i think it was called?) as it had leukemia or suchlike? I can recall you telling me something about it..if there are two then i stand corrected on that and i apologize...ATB Andy.

Edited June 28, 2012 by poacherspocket22

[FUJI 17,324]

Look at the eyes,look at the eyes

Edited June 28, 2012 by poacherspocket22

[Guest Moscow]

Giro you been telling tales lad :laugh:

[Millet 4,497]

Look at the eyes,look at the eyes

That mutt remind's me of something from the evil dead..

[FUJI 17,324]

Here's a wee tale that Dell put up about my mate over in Ireland who bred Don..i know it's been on before but feck it's a good un,it's from a year or two back now ...Well it took me some time to think what way to explain what happened to me a few days ago. I’m still in shock, and trying to put this behind me . It started once again with Andy’s mate TM the man who first introduced me to this site. We where out digging, when he got a phone call on his phone from his younger brother jimmy, I knew by the tone of his voice he was not taking the news well, “right let’s go” he said. what’s up said Willie his other brother. That other little dip-stick had his bitch which was off And'y dog Jack which I gave him “stolen “ . what can we do about it said Willie, he knows who stole it, and they want 500 quid for its return. Everything was fired into the back of the van, and I expected to be left out at the corner on the way home, but we went straight to TM's house where we met jimmy. He jumped into the van and I noticed that he was badly bruised around his face. We flew off to where the dog was been held and Jimmy explained what happened on the way. He was having a fling with this young lass for some time but her partner/husband was just released from prison after doing 5 years and did not take it to well, as well as giving Jimmy a good going over, he took his dog off him and told him to pay 500 quid if he wants the dog back. Andy’s mate TM was not in good form after Jimmy losing the dog. When we arrived I thought we took the wrong turn, because we where in a gypo halting site, but we were in the right place said Jimmy. Willie turned around and said “your knocking off a gypo’s partner/wife, for f*ck sake said Willie. At this point I was getting very nervous and wanted out of there. We pulled up outside the house , and there was a group of men standing at the side wall and eyed us up straight away. TM got out and walk right up to the door and knocked, a young women opened the door , a fine looking thing at that but I noticed she had a bruised face. Willie asked had she got any sister’s lol!. TM walked straight in and was followed by the young lass, then all hell broke loose, roaring and shouting could be heard. A few of the men start walking towards the house, Willie stepped out of the van and reached behind the seat and pulled a piece of pipe and laid it across the seat, he then stepped to the front of the van. One of the men start going down to where there were more gypo’s standing , at this point saying i was shitting myself would be an understatement. TM came from the side of the house with the dog on a rope, no sign of the gypo. I was totally confused. The young woman came out from the front door and jimmy started waving to her, she seen him and smiled at this point. There was a tribe of gypos walking towards the van, Willie got in the van and started it up, while TM put the dog into the side door for me to hold. We turned and drove away without any trouble. I asked TM did he not mind handing the dog over. He replied “not after he spat out a few teeth”. I was so relieved to be out of there. Jimmy was cutting the rope off his dog and was all smiles. We had only gone a short distance and I noticed flashing lights behind us, I looked and seen gypo’s chasing us as well as waving a machete at us. Willie put the boot down but could not lose them, the van they were in was fairly new and our van was quite old. Andys mate TM said pull up Willie, WHAT HAPPENED NEXT WILL STAY WITH ME FOR THE REST OF MY LIFE . The 2 brothers jumped out, one with a piece of pipe, the other with a spade, ran back and hammered the shit out of the gypo’s van, “windscreen, side windows, front lights, doors, mirrors” everything got it. Quick as a flash back in their own van and gone up the road. I was looking out the back and could not see the gypo’s get out of their van. There was a few seconds of silence, then TM asked me if I was alright, I was in shock and thought this was a dream, I mumbled yes. Next Willie replied “welcome to the family”. the 3 brothers fell around laughing. My first thoughts were there f*cking insane the whole family and I’ m only seeing it now. They let me out at my corner for home and I can tell you I was so relieved to see that corner. The story does not end there, 2 days later the gypo’s partner/ wife turned up at TM's place suitcase in hand looking for Jimmy. At present Jimmy and the young lass are living in a caravan at the back of andys mate TM's place. I said to Jimmy he would be very lucky if the gypo does not come after him his reply was “dell IM A LOVER NOT A FIGHTER”. I like Jimmy a lot and feel we are going to be good friends, I somehow feel there is going to be a few little Jimmy’s running around soon. To be honest I kept from them in case of any repercussions I did not want to get drawn into. I asked andys mate TM what may happen he replied dell you have to take the rough with the smooth , and stand by what you believe. I think in hindsight its good advice and gave me a lot to think about. You could write a book on my excursions so far with this man and i've only know him a short while, on the title I was thinking of ANDY AND FRIENDS OR WHO NEEDS ENEMIES WITH FRIENDS LIKE THESE

 

DELL

[FUJI 17,324]

Last one today folks..i'm away to feed my mutts then i'm out of here ..catch up for a bit of banter later? ATB Andy.

 

oh and guess what this bitch is called?..yep another fecking Blue alongside her dam Jess

 

Blue (Bulpa & Jess) & Jess (Lou x Nipper)

Edited June 28, 2012 by poacherspocket22

[Millet 4,497]

Has that white bitch got a belly full of scran or is that just her shape..

[FUJI 17,324]

Has that white bitch got a belly full of scran or is that just her shape..

 

I can't remember if she had been fed soon as we returned home or not Millet ..surely she must have been

[TOMO 26,176]

looks like its ate a hole fecking hare

[Millet 4,497]

[dazzz 421]

Andy dont take offence to this but do you regret letting certain folk use some of your dog's as stud??? you know what im getting at,

dont get me wrong im glad you did as my bitch has come from dog although not directly but i know some jumped on the band waggon

and not all where for the good

 

Oh for sure i regret plenty Daz! I know some good as come from it though,yourself,Derbylad,Rabbithunter got dogs out of Chester and everyone knows how highly i rated that dog,he just wouldn't mate a bitch in the real world lol and it would of been a travesty if he never produced anything but fairplay to the fella for making the effort and putting up the £££ to get bitches artificially inseminated from Chester..it was just the darn amount of litters he spat out in a couple of years that kind of pissed me off..some of the bitches he was breeding off although well bred had seen next to nothing (his words)..he was selling pups for £400 or more? I couldn't understand people buying them for that sort of money? Yes dogs like my own dog Jack that covered the old bitch,the Chester dog and Flick covering bitches from that 1st mating all were worked hard YET he wanted ALL the glory? It's all water under the bridge now at the end of the day?..he has now jumped shipped and moved onto Coursing dogs ..blood of these dogs is aplenty now be it for better or worse? ATB Andy.

cheers for the honest reply Andy, just to clear one thing up mate, chester covered 3 different bitches 2 from one bloke and the other was Mark who has lilly,

i know your dig wasnt aimed at Mark but it could look to some like it was, Mark used chester over his bitch lilly that he still has and kept a pup back Mea that he also has

in his kennell,,,,,like i say we both know what we was talking about but others might not....ATB

[FUJI 17,324]

Yep,sorry about that Timber my owld mucker ..cheers for clearing that up Daz for me matey.