is the whippet becoming to popular for its own good

[chartpolski 23,243]

So why do they call them whippets then Charty? They are longdogs or lurchers or cross breeds surely?

 

They've been called "Whippets" since the 1800's, (no cracks about me being there then !!), As some one said, the "racing types" came before the KC types. Of course they are heavily influenced with Greyhound blood, but their "pedigrees" can be traced back as far, if not farther than the KC type. I don't want to be dragged into a "Ped Versus Non-Ped" argument, as I like and admire both types ! I would far rather call them "Race Dogs"... but the Non-Ped has been called Whippets for far longer thn I have been around, so I'll stick with that !

 

Cheers.

[Country Joe 1,411]

Maybe its just me, but why would you class a dog with quarter greyhound as being a whippet.

[chartpolski 23,243]

Looks more like the Whippet X Greyhound i ran years ago.

1/4 Grey, mate

 

Cheers.

 

So it's not a whippet then

 

You're correct, 'Von..... it's a "Non-Ped Racing Whippet"; registered with the British Whippet Racing Association. As I keep repeating; I'm a fan of both Ped and Non-Ped Whippets,and have seen both types work and race. I have never seen Boo run, but only heard good things about him !

 

Cheers.

A question for you Chart as you,ve raised my interest and I know feckall about peds/non peds etc but can you register a 1st x grey/whip with the bwra ?

 

They have recently changed the rules, and I'm sure someone like Bob, (Whip/Grey), will explain better than me, but I'm sure 1st crosses can be registered and allowed to run as long as they don't exceed the 55lb limit .

 

Cheers.

[Moll. 1,770]

In any other circles they are grews or lurchers. But if they race they are whippets. Just cannot get my head around it?

[chartpolski 23,243]

Maybe its just me, but why would you class a dog with quarter greyhound as being a whippet.

 

I wouldn't, and was banned from the K9 site because of a discussion like this one ! BUT, the BWRA WILL register Whippet/Greyhounds as "Whippets", as long as they satisfy THEIR rules.

 

Cheers.

[jimmy 76]

they are lurchers thats what they come under grey x whippet = lurcher whippet x whippet = whippet

[chartpolski 23,243]

they are lurchers thats what they come under grey x whippet = lurcher whippet x whippet = whippet

 

If we are going to be pedantic about it; they would be classed as "Longdogs", not "Lurchers"..but I'm not going to be pedantic about it ! LOL !

 

Cheers.

[Forrest Gump 10]

If a Grey x Whippet is a lurcher then why are people so bothered when other people enter this cross in the Lurcher racing at gamefairs?

[KittleRox 2,147]

mind charti doesn,t make the rules folks

[KittleRox 2,147]

Looks more like the Whippet X Greyhound i ran years ago.

1/4 Grey, mate

 

Cheers.

 

So it's not a whippet then

 

You're correct, 'Von..... it's a "Non-Ped Racing Whippet"; registered with the British Whippet Racing Association. As I keep repeating; I'm a fan of both Ped and Non-Ped Whippets,and have seen both types work and race. I have never seen Boo run, but only heard good things about him !

 

Cheers.

A question for you Chart as you,ve raised my interest and I know feckall about peds/non peds etc but can you register a 1st x grey/whip with the bwra ?

 

They have recently changed the rules, and I'm sure someone like Bob, (Whip/Grey), will explain better than me, but I'm sure 1st crosses can be registered and allowed to run as long as they don't exceed the 55lb limit .

 

Cheers.

that was going to be my next question, if they are non peds how can you tell if a greyhounds a greyhound, a whippets a whippet etc etc,

so its to do with weight ?

[chartpolski 23,243]

mind charti doesn,t make the rules folks

 

You're right, 'Roxy ! I still go to the "dogs", (Whippet Racing), on a saturday morning, and get into arguments about 55lb, half x greyhounds being called Whippets !! My usual reposte is "there has been smaller Greyhounds won the Waterloo Cup " !! But I still love it; it's dedicated dog men and women breeding, training and racing outstanding dogs !! So fair play to them !

 

Cheers.

[birddog 1,354]

spoke to bob, apparently 1st crosses are still allowed to register as are the pups from two 1st crosses, a 1st or 2nd cross isn't allowed to mate a greyhound for registering pups, theyr'e doing this in order to lessen the greyhound influence i believe, in my day racing breeding didn't matter if it was smooth, whippetlike and under 32lb it was fine

[birddog 1,354]

mind charti doesn,t make the rules folks

 

You're right, 'Roxy ! I still go to the "dogs", (Whippet Racing), on a saturday morning, and get into arguments about 55lb, half x greyhounds being called Whippets !! My usual reposte is "there has been smaller Greyhounds won the Waterloo Cup " !! But I still love it; it's dedicated dog men and women breeding, training and racing outstanding dogs !! So fair play to them !

 

Cheers.

can i add charti, not just the men and women but whole families grannies fed them, kids walked them etc. without a doubt it's the best family orientated sport bar none, a weekend at the championships or one of the bigger opens was tops, never a raised word, racers from all classes of society, at night there was always a party at some tent or a free feed or beer at another

[chartpolski 23,243]

mind charti doesn,t make the rules folks

 

You're right, 'Roxy ! I still go to the "dogs", (Whippet Racing), on a saturday morning, and get into arguments about 55lb, half x greyhounds being called Whippets !! My usual reposte is "there has been smaller Greyhounds won the Waterloo Cup " !! But I still love it; it's dedicated dog men and women breeding, training and racing outstanding dogs !! So fair play to them !

 

Cheers.

can i add charti, not just the men and women but whole families grannies fed them, kids walked them etc. without a doubt it's the best family orientated sport bar none, a weekend at the championships or one of the bigger opens was tops, never a raised word, racers from all classes of society, at night there was always a party at some tent or a free feed or beer at another

 

I remember "Lascelles Lass", owned by the Queen's cousin, and a dog owned by Bobby and Jack Charltons brother being in the same race years ago. Where I lived, almost every other house had a Whippet or two, of the Non-Ped variety. And you're right;the training, feeding and racing was a family affair !

 

Cheers.

Edited May 17, 2012 by chartpolski

[KittleRox 2,147]

As the non ped racing whips, are basically bred to get to a to b as quick as possible

How would you find them in the field, they are meant to be faster on the track than a ped,

but ped whippets appear to have good stamina for a whippet, and many have excellent nose,

an important feature for a rabbiting dog.

 

Having been a around bwra racing whippets my opion is that they are very fine built as they have to be, to get a big a dog that can run well as light as possible. This means they are not as robust as a kc working whippet in my opinion but i would think are much faster pound for pound. You could have a 21" bwra dog whippet running at 25/26lb a kc working type of that size would probably be over 30lb. I used to give my fathers racing dogs a run on the rabbits odd times but they were injury prone so he stopped me taking them out. Sounds daft but i think they are probably to fast and lightweight for running rough ground. I would not say they are all like this but ours were.

 

 

this one had a few injurys running on the track, i dont think it would have lasted long working.

aimed at birdog, after reading the above post, do Bobs dogs get many injurys working ?