what cross do you dislike & why ?

[omegathelast 160]

For work and from my experience, Saluki crosses. My uncle got talked into buying one years ago when we were out working our collie crosses on a very regular basis. The dog would catch ok, albeit being a bit cumbersome over rough ground and short distances, would then proceed to bite the rabbit in half and then do about 20 laps of honour with the minced rabbit, scaring everything else off in the distance, especially if we were lamping. It came back "when its ready" and was, to be fair, thick as a stump. It was a lovely animal but we just could'nt get it to work half as good as the collie crosses we were using. My preference is collie cross and then Bedlington crosses because I have see great dogs of both breeding.

 

For the image of the sport and country sports in general I dislike the prolification of Bull crosses and I know many genuine lurcher people quietly feel the same way - they have undoutably led the image of the lurcher and the lurcher owner down a very dark alley and I know for a fact lurcher owners are now firmly on the radar of the Wildlife Crime Officers and organisations like the RSPCA who now associate lurchers with the worst types of wildlife crime, whereas previously that was not so much the case. It makes me cringe to see these scarred monstrosities at shows and I think there needs to be a serious debate as to whether these dogs ought to be allowed, in the same way as many lurcher and terrier clubs took the brave yet essential decision to ban bull terriers from shows in the 's and early 90's. They are doing untold damage to the already perilous image of this sport. All very true I am afraid.

Edited May 14, 2012 by omegathelast

[salukiman 28]

i dont like bull crosses because of what i have seen of them and the people that own them.

[omegathelast 160]

i dont like bull crosses because of what i have seen of them and the people that own them.

 

Sadly I agree and that is my point..

[blackmaggie 3,376]

For work and from my experience, Saluki crosses. My uncle got talked into buying one years ago when we were out working our collie crosses on a very regular basis. The dog would catch ok, albeit being a bit cumbersome over rough ground and short distances, would then proceed to bite the rabbit in half and then do about 20 laps of honour with the minced rabbit, scaring everything else off in the distance, especially if we were lamping. It came back "when its ready" and was, to be fair, thick as a stump. My preference is collie cross and then Bedlington crosses because I have see great dogs of both breeding.

 

For the image of the sport and country sports in general I dislike the prolification of Bull crosses and I know many genuine lurcher people quietly feel the same way - they have undoutably led the image of the lurcher and the lurcher owner down a very dark alley and I know for a fact lurcher owners are now firmly on the radar of the Wildlife Crime Officers and organisations like the RSPCA who now associate lurchers with the worst types of wildlife crime, whereas previously that was not so much the case. It makes me cringe to see these scarred monstrosities at shows and I think there needs to be a serious debate as to whether these dogs ought to be allowed, in the same way as many lurcher and terrier clubs took the brave yet essential decision to ban bull terriers from shows in the 's and early 90's. They are doing untold damage to the already perilous image of this sport. All very true I am afraid.

sorry i disagree lurchermen have always been on the radar i dont think you can blame just the bull x for all the heat we now get i think you can blame the media for that there just as interested in hare coursers with there salukis x and you cant say its just bullx owners who are stealing from farms etc or leaving deer carcasses at the side of the road yes i do agree the cross does have a clown following but doesnt all crosses and any dog thats that badly scarred up then they should be left at home like any dog should be be it bullx or terrier

[Carraghs Gem 1,675]

I dont understand all the animosity towards bullx owners, ive never met a bullx owner who was anything other than polite.

[johnnylestershair 78]

saluki greyhound whippit my bitch as her moments but not up the fields there are fast and soon on the rabbit and can turn

[omegathelast 160]

For work and from my experience, Saluki crosses. My uncle got talked into buying one years ago when we were out working our collie crosses on a very regular basis. The dog would catch ok, albeit being a bit cumbersome over rough ground and short distances, would then proceed to bite the rabbit in half and then do about 20 laps of honour with the minced rabbit, scaring everything else off in the distance, especially if we were lamping. It came back "when its ready" and was, to be fair, thick as a stump. My preference is collie cross and then Bedlington crosses because I have see great dogs of both breeding.

 

For the image of the sport and country sports in general I dislike the prolification of Bull crosses and I know many genuine lurcher people quietly feel the same way - they have undoutably led the image of the lurcher and the lurcher owner down a very dark alley and I know for a fact lurcher owners are now firmly on the radar of the Wildlife Crime Officers and organisations like the RSPCA who now associate lurchers with the worst types of wildlife crime, whereas previously that was not so much the case. It makes me cringe to see these scarred monstrosities at shows and I think there needs to be a serious debate as to whether these dogs ought to be allowed, in the same way as many lurcher and terrier clubs took the brave yet essential decision to ban bull terriers from shows in the 's and early 90's. They are doing untold damage to the already perilous image of this sport. All very true I am afraid.

sorry i disagree lurchermen have always been on the radar i dont think you can blame just the bull x for all the heat we now get i think you can blame the media for that there just as interested in hare coursers with there salukis x and you cant say its just bullx owners who are stealing from farms etc or leaving deer carcasses at the side of the road yes i do agree the cross does have a clown following but doesnt all crosses and any dog thats that badly scarred up then they should be left at home like any dog should be be it bullx or terrier

 

Unfortunately you are wrong. I know for a fact the Bullx phenomenen has raised the negative profile of lurchers in the eyes of the authorities whereas previously they didnt really see lurchers as a problem. And it makes sense, why would you breed one? particularly given the current restrictions?

Edited May 14, 2012 by omegathelast

[salukiman 28]

For work and from my experience, Saluki crosses. My uncle got talked into buying one years ago when we were out working our collie crosses on a very regular basis. The dog would catch ok, albeit being a bit cumbersome over rough ground and short distances, would then proceed to bite the rabbit in half and then do about 20 laps of honour with the minced rabbit, scaring everything else off in the distance, especially if we were lamping. It came back "when its ready" and was, to be fair, thick as a stump. My preference is collie cross and then Bedlington crosses because I have see great dogs of both breeding.

 

For the image of the sport and country sports in general I dislike the prolification of Bull crosses and I know many genuine lurcher people quietly feel the same way - they have undoutably led the image of the lurcher and the lurcher owner down a very dark alley and I know for a fact lurcher owners are now firmly on the radar of the Wildlife Crime Officers and organisations like the RSPCA who now associate lurchers with the worst types of wildlife crime, whereas previously that was not so much the case. It makes me cringe to see these scarred monstrosities at shows and I think there needs to be a serious debate as to whether these dogs ought to be allowed, in the same way as many lurcher and terrier clubs took the brave yet essential decision to ban bull terriers from shows in the 's and early 90's. They are doing untold damage to the already perilous image of this sport. All very true I am afraid.

sorry i disagree lurchermen have always been on the radar i dont think you can blame just the bull x for all the heat we now get i think you can blame the media for that there just as interested in hare coursers with there salukis x and you cant say its just bullx owners who are stealing from farms etc or leaving deer carcasses at the side of the road yes i do agree the cross does have a clown following but doesnt all crosses and any dog thats that badly scarred up then they should be left at home like any dog should be be it bullx or terrier

 

i agree with you on the media but the anti organisations have been given a platform to produce a propperganda campaign. which some owners of bull crosses have handed to them on a plate. when you consider the attitude of them its hard to find a defence that holds any positive .i feel for the minority of bull cross owners who are decent owners/ people because as the breed grows in popularity the % of wankers grows so does the attitude and defaces the true value of lurcher work and its comunity.

[omegathelast 160]

I agree Salukiman but its not just the anti's, I couldnt give a shite about them to be honest, its the Wildlife Crime Intelligence people who, rightly, are now looking at the Lurcher and associated crime and they see the bull crosses as a big part of that. Unfortunately though we potentially all get tarred with the same brush even though 90% of Lurcher people are decent law abiding, countryside loving people.

[blackmaggie 3,376]

we will have to agree to disagree mate before the bull x phenomenen when collie x and dh were in favour most landowners and organisations viewed lurcher owners as poachers with sheep worrying dogs its like how many times have you seen landowners watch you with the view of being a wrong un plenty i bet and how many lads have been knocked back for permission just because they have a lurcher with them and not just a bullx either

[Guest FTBBTH]

my biggest hate, a lurcher with bull in, slow shite for the turns, no stamina and too rough, if they do get around to catch anything for the plate, its ripped to shreds.

 

i dont like lurchers which are less sighthound than anything i think a lurcher shouldhave more sighthound than anything in the make up. imo dainty whippet capable of catching a cold are no good either

[Guest FTBBTH]

oh and i hate deerhound greyhound x collie greyhound x beddy greyhound

[dai dogs 1,404]

i didnt think this topic would go very far but its getting interesting.

maybe going off track a bit ( like most of THL topics do. )

but still keep your comments coming lads.

[troter58 1,711]

oh and i hate deerhound greyhound x collie greyhound x beddy greyhound

you dont like much then eh :laugh:

[blackmaggie 3,376]

For work and from my experience, Saluki crosses. My uncle got talked into buying one years ago when we were out working our collie crosses on a very regular basis. The dog would catch ok, albeit being a bit cumbersome over rough ground and short distances, would then proceed to bite the rabbit in half and then do about 20 laps of honour with the minced rabbit, scaring everything else off in the distance, especially if we were lamping. It came back "when its ready" and was, to be fair, thick as a stump. My preference is collie cross and then Bedlington crosses because I have see great dogs of both breeding.

 

For the image of the sport and country sports in general I dislike the prolification of Bull crosses and I know many genuine lurcher people quietly feel the same way - they have undoutably led the image of the lurcher and the lurcher owner down a very dark alley and I know for a fact lurcher owners are now firmly on the radar of the Wildlife Crime Officers and organisations like the RSPCA who now associate lurchers with the worst types of wildlife crime, whereas previously that was not so much the case. It makes me cringe to see these scarred monstrosities at shows and I think there needs to be a serious debate as to whether these dogs ought to be allowed, in the same way as many lurcher and terrier clubs took the brave yet essential decision to ban bull terriers from shows in the 's and early 90's. They are doing untold damage to the already perilous image of this sport. All very true I am afraid.

sorry i disagree lurchermen have always been on the radar i dont think you can blame just the bull x for all the heat we now get i think you can blame the media for that there just as interested in hare coursers with there salukis x and you cant say its just bullx owners who are stealing from farms etc or leaving deer carcasses at the side of the road yes i do agree the cross does have a clown following but doesnt all crosses and any dog thats that badly scarred up then they should be left at home like any dog should be be it bullx or terrier

 

i agree with you on the media but the anti organisations have been given a platform to produce a propperganda campaign. which some owners of bull crosses have handed to them on a plate. when you consider the attitude of them its hard to find a defence that holds any positive .i feel for the minority of bull cross owners who are decent owners/ people because as the breed grows in popularity the % of wankers grows so does the attitude and defaces the true value of lurcher work and its comunity.

i agree with what your saying chavs with bullxs are a recipe for trouble and i would rather see them take up a different hobby the public have a view on lurchers thats been made by sensation headlines and joe public believes it but till all the dicks find something else to do we will still get all this bad press