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Which rifle to apply for - 1st application


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Firstly, forget "need". You don't have to prove you "need" a specific calibre to have it issued. You need to prove "reasonable cause" to hold.

 

Is shooting foxes reasonable cause to hold a .223? Of course it is! If you need to shoot foxes at the ranges you mention then I'd say you have every right to ask for it, and THEY need to make a case that says you're not allowed it because of public safety concerns. Don't fall for the "let them tell you what you can have" BS, it's not up to them to make those decisions and you'll almost certainly end up not having the proper tools to do what you want. If you think the .223 is the best calibre for your needs then put it on your application!

 

The .17 is a good round, but a lot of people are reporting major problems with the ammunition. It's inconsistent and sometimes even dangerous.

 

The .22 magnum rimfire is also known as a .22WMR (short for Winchester Magnum Rimfire) and is the parent case that the HMR uses. It is a great round, with loads of ammunition choices and offers much better downrange performance than the .17. It's not a centrefire but it's the next best thing.

 

The .22LR will be your friend if you want to eat the bunnies. If the shotgun does too much meat damage then you don't want to see what a .17HMR or .22WMR can do.

 

So ask for the tools you would like to do the job. Don't stand for any BS. If they want to restrict you ask to see the evidence of increased public safety for the restrictions they want to impose, and don't be afraid to up the ante by approaching the Chief Constable if you thin they aren't dealing with you fairly.

 

Settled case law states that the people charged with administering firearms licencing must approach each application individually, and from the point of view of the applicant and NOT from the point of view of any possible objectors. Have the courage to go for the tools you require and stick to your guns (if you'll excuse the horrible pun).

 

I'm intrigued by your statement that "obviously I don't expect to get all these guns". Why on earth not? By issuing an FAC they are tacitly stating that they consider that you can safely possess a firearm "in all cases". If you have a genuine reason to possess each of the calibres then why would you expect them not to issue them?

 

Good luck with your application.

 

 

Yep, never do understand this attitutde, if you have the requirement then ask for whatever you want!" :thumbs:

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If you apply for .22lr and 17 hmr its worth looking at a sako quad ...one quality rifle two interchangeable barrels I am thinking about going down that road when I renew my ticket but I am told the 17hmr costs a fair bit more than a .22lr to feed,worth a thought......

 

Problem with the quad is the need to re-zero every time you change barrel. I just like to open the safe pick out a gun and know it will be bob on when I step out to use it. If the first thing you have to do when you get to your ground is check zero everything around will have got the message and will be keeping its head down. ;)

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If you apply for .22lr and 17 hmr its worth looking at a sako quad ...one quality rifle two interchangeable barrels I am thinking about going down that road when I renew my ticket but I am told the 17hmr costs a fair bit more than a .22lr to feed,worth a thought......

 

Problem with the quad is the need to re-zero every time you change barrel. I just like to open the safe pick out a gun and know it will be bob on when I step out to use it. If the first thing you have to do when you get to your ground is check zero everything around will have got the message and will be keeping its head down. ;)

 

Fair point mate ....... :thumbs:

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