weezel5 2 Posted May 9, 2012 Report Share Posted May 9, 2012 When am out walkin throu the day my male dog attacs my yong pup when he gets excited bt when were out at night wi the lamp hes right as rain coz hes got a job to do eny ways i can stop him Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Casso 1,261 Posted May 10, 2012 Report Share Posted May 10, 2012 There are many posts written on here bud about introducing a young dog to his first fox , many different views and opinions, one thing is for sure most are adamant that it can make or break a young dog as far as charlie is concerned, because they know first impressions count, Now its the same with the pup, too many negative encounters with people places or things and it will effect how the pup views the world shy and mistrusting or positive and confident with manly positive encounters, pups should be managed so that they dont put themselves in situations which emotionally they cant handle yet, pups are programmed to make contact with whatever, to such an extent that they cant read warning signs from animals or dogs, Dont let adult dogs discipline pups ever, emotion in leads to emotion out, and often in a very explosive manner seemly out of the blue, if we dont put a charge into a dog it will never need to express a charge , dogs mistakenly diagnosed as holding a grudge are holding an emotional charge which is expressed it time of stress or high excitement, such as feeding time or playtime, certain dogs or dog shapes try managing the pup as best you can , every pup is born social, they are not made social by dominating or discipline, get the pup out playing with you on its own, best of luck with her Quote Link to post Share on other sites
skycat 6,174 Posted May 10, 2012 Report Share Posted May 10, 2012 Your adult dog is seeing the pup as a plaything: a toy at which it can direct its prey drive and energy. DON'T LET THIS HAPPEN: as Casso says, it may damage the pup, not physically necessarily, but mentally. You need to take the pup out alone, or if that sounds like too much trouble, ask yourself why you have more than just the one dog if you don't have time for them individually. Managing two dogs is something that not all people are able to do successfully, and it depends a lot on your own experience and your ability to read the dogs properly. On the other hand, loads of people have more than one dog: they just learn how to make walks more exciting for their dogs whilst still remaining in control of them all. Do you play ball games with your adult dog? Fetching a tennis ball is a great way to divert your adult dog's energy away from the pup. But you must keep the pup on a lead when you throw the ball for the adult: never throw a ball for two dogs at once or you'll have even more problems. I tend to go out for a walk with more than one dog, and if I can't trust my other dogs not to go for the ball I'm throwing for one dog, I just tie them up to a fence while I ball throw for one at a time. They all get their turn, and soon learn to wait patiently for their bit of fun. This way your adult dog gets to burn off energy without attacking the pup, and the pup gets to have fun time without looking over its shoulder to see if the adult dog is coming for it. I would also never let the two dogs off the lead together if you can't trust your adult dog not to attack the pup. Far too many people just take a heap of dogs out together for a walk and they don't watch what is going on between the dogs. At least you're aware of the problem How old are the pup and the adult by the way? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
weezel5 2 Posted May 11, 2012 Author Report Share Posted May 11, 2012 thanks for the advice lads some grate ideas i will enjoy trying. the older male is 2 an my young bitch is 8 month it hasn't cum to the point where i can only take them out one at a time but where i can only let one of them off the lead at a time. i take the pup to the field alone twice a week for an hour for retriever training an general obedience stuff like sit an stay an lay down the male go's out alone 3 times a week on the lamp atlest the pup hasn't cum yet but will be doing afta summer should the male get play time alone throu day. the attacking happens on there daily walk when i throw the ball or when the pup has a sprint he jus chases an then gets her so now its one dog off at a time an the ball getting thrown. its workin he int getting a chance to do it but it would be nice to walk wi em both off running about so when i relay bring the pup on i would like to go moochin with them both an want the older dog to bring her on when she starts on the lamp thanks agen lads for the comments Quote Link to post Share on other sites
skycat 6,174 Posted May 11, 2012 Report Share Posted May 11, 2012 There's no point taking a pup to watch another dog lamping, let alone running it alongside. Some people do it but IMO it is a recipe for stopping a dog retrieving well, especially if there is competition between the two of them. If your older dog persists in trying to run the pup down you may want to look at his general obedience: you should be able to stop him with a command: but you'll have to work on this with him alone to begin with. I'd keep on as you are for the moment, letting them off the lead one at a time, and make sure the older dog gets plenty of free running and your attention. Some adult dogs get a bit jealous if you are spending more of your time with a pup. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
weezel5 2 Posted May 14, 2012 Author Report Share Posted May 14, 2012 Cheers skycat it seems to be workin well bin spending more time wi the male an startd obedience training agen an the problem has dropd off abit think it was more jelosy than enything els An iv been rethinking my idea about training her alongside the adult i hear lots of peppol saying diffrent things on both sides of the argument. I managen to train the male wi out the use of another dog so if it aint broke dont fix it lol Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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