doodles 78 Posted May 4, 2012 Report Share Posted May 4, 2012 Now I know that these breeds have been ruined by the KC, but supposing there was some working strains around, and there wasn't a "Ban"; would any of us consider using them in a Lurcher breeding programme ? I ask because when Iwas at Selby, I had a craic with a couple of lads from Ireland, and they had five stunning looking Borzoi/Saluki/Greyhounds with them. They certainly looked the part, but could they actualy DO the job, the owner said they were good hare dogs, but he was selling them, so he wouldn't say they were rubbish !! LOL !! I know that in Australia, and to a lesser extent the US, these breeds are used in running dogs, to good effect, but generaly come from working stock. This is just a hypothetical question, as I doubt there are any working type Borzois, Wolfhounds or Ibizans in the UK, but if there was, would we use them; or are we happy with what we have ? Cheers. did he have grey hair ....hes been breeding an running them for last 25 years is that a man from ballysillan your talking about??? Quote Link to post
TOMO 27,344 Posted May 4, 2012 Report Share Posted May 4, 2012 the kc might have runied them here,,, but you can still find working borzoi in ussr,, and ibizans working in spain and the islands... theres footage on youtube,,,dont think the ibzans would be much use to us as lurchers,, cos of them opening up.,, there used more like a pack of hounds,,,, somthing they do well if you look at the foootage.. borzoi might have somthing to offer,, look at juklers thread about saluki's 2 Quote Link to post
SeanMcD 92 Posted May 4, 2012 Report Share Posted May 4, 2012 Now I know that these breeds have been ruined by the KC, but supposing there was some working strains around, and there wasn't a "Ban"; would any of us consider using them in a Lurcher breeding programme ? I ask because when Iwas at Selby, I had a craic with a couple of lads from Ireland, and they had five stunning looking Borzoi/Saluki/Greyhounds with them. They certainly looked the part, but could they actualy DO the job, the owner said they were good hare dogs, but he was selling them, so he wouldn't say they were rubbish !! LOL !! I know that in Australia, and to a lesser extent the US, these breeds are used in running dogs, to good effect, but generaly come from working stock. This is just a hypothetical question, as I doubt there are any working type Borzois, Wolfhounds or Ibizans in the UK, but if there was, would we use them; or are we happy with what we have ? Cheers. did he have grey hair ....hes been breeding an running them for last 25 years is that a man from ballysillan your talking about??? yes Quote Link to post
KittleRox 2,147 Posted May 4, 2012 Report Share Posted May 4, 2012 I,ve been to the canarys a couple of times and theres a type of dog over there ( can,t remember the name ) but I did wonder if you could make a decent lurcher using this breed, would certainly have excellent feet if they can deal with the volcanic rock Quote Link to post
KittleRox 2,147 Posted May 4, 2012 Report Share Posted May 4, 2012 I,ve been to the canarys a couple of times and theres a type of dog over there ( can,t remember the name ) but I did wonder if you could make a decent lurcher using this breed, would certainly have excellent feet if they can deal with the volcanic rock Ferreting with Podencos http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UAqgmpAya8s&feature=player_detailpage#t=611s Quote Link to post
Ausnick 190 Posted May 4, 2012 Report Share Posted May 4, 2012 not quite the above but i wondered what these would have turned out preban with plenty of opportunity http://www.preloved....ie-puppies.html Must admit matey i wouldn't be reaching fr the mobile, danes have terrible health problems, are ungainly, cloddy and slow. I know they use them in Oz, but over there they will chuck any ole cross into the melting pot lol.......... great dane is only put in pig dog lines. no one puts em in running dog lines. We have so many different crosses over here because there is so much variation in the land 1 Quote Link to post
TOMO 27,344 Posted May 4, 2012 Report Share Posted May 4, 2012 some good clips there kittlerox,, i ended up watching 4 or 5 difrent ones,,, theres one where you can see the ferret above ground following a sent and mooving at speed,,,but some of them are using string copes.... alot of chaps over here wouldnt ferret those rock piles,, and craks in the larva 1 Quote Link to post
morton 5,368 Posted May 4, 2012 Report Share Posted May 4, 2012 Ive seen a Borzoi/Lurcher cross,it was,nt in a working kennel,it looked well balanced and could cover the ground.A true working type Borzoi added into a certain type of lurcher breeding would possibly make more than a useful animal,anyone got a non KC Borzoi with genuine breeding behind it ?. Quote Link to post
trigger2 3,193 Posted May 4, 2012 Report Share Posted May 4, 2012 ive seen a borzoi/lurcher last summer it looked a nice sort of dog. Quote Link to post
Chid 6,653 Posted May 4, 2012 Report Share Posted May 4, 2012 Denned off here as a lurcher with borzoi in it , Quote Link to post
KittleRox 2,147 Posted May 4, 2012 Report Share Posted May 4, 2012 some good clips there kittlerox,, i ended up watching 4 or 5 difrent ones,,, theres one where you can see the ferret above ground following a sent and mooving at speed,,,but some of them are using string copes.... alot of chaps over here wouldnt ferret those rock piles,, and craks in the larva aye grassy slopes it ain,t, the dogs feet must be very tough, I quite like the look of these dogs as well,strong looking beasts Quote Link to post
chartpolski 25,566 Posted May 4, 2012 Author Report Share Posted May 4, 2012 I saw this Borzoi x Collie in Scotland a few years back. Often wondered what the pups would be like if she were put to a decent Greyhound; Cheers. Quote Link to post
Bosun11 537 Posted May 4, 2012 Report Share Posted May 4, 2012 My mate had a dog with about a quarter Borzoi in it in the 's, big an fast, it could kill hares and foxes but was injury prone. I'd agree with Simo, in that there is more than enough choice here already from well tested stock. Quote Link to post
TOMO 27,344 Posted May 6, 2012 Report Share Posted May 6, 2012 after kittlerox put that vid up,,, ive spent a few hours watching podencos catching bunnys on difrent films ,, some good bits as well.. but heres a film i found of galgos coursing hares,, rather than a big organised meet,, this seems more like a few mates out for the day Quote Link to post
TOMO 27,344 Posted May 6, 2012 Report Share Posted May 6, 2012 heres another bolivia i think this one,,,,theres a few hounds running mind,,,they look more like lurchers than galgoes,,check out the 3rd animal they catch Quote Link to post
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