Dead Game Dogs

[redpat1 225]

I got a copy of Dead Game yesterday and then sat up half the night giving it the once over, hardly beleiving how amazing some of those dogs are which then got me thinking! I have known quite a few fellas who have had strong dogs, mostly Staffs, but from thinking back they only resembled the animals from the book as these dogs mostly seem more muscular in an athletic way although not all of them. I am just sitting here looking through again wonder if these strains still exist and if so where do you find this kind of quality animal? as the book seems to stop around the millenium.

I dont know a massive amount about heavy dogs and these are just my observations, I might be way off the mark.

 

Cheers

 

Pat

[patterdale666 1,620]

Its a Good book and im sure there would still be lines off some dogs in the book still about its just finding the right person

[Saho-man 50]

its hard for people not in the game to know exactly where or or precisely who . has them.. than where. ... i find the game staffords circle to be tight more than apbt.... so far people dont if they even exist ... job well done i say. and buying a book wouldn't legitimise a person... still i would love to know ... i find a line of game stafford more precious than apbt...

[redpat1 225]

its hard for people not in the game to know exactly where or or precisely who . has them.. than where. ... i find the game staffords circle to be tight more than apbt.... so far people dont if they even exist ... job well done i say. and buying a book wouldn't legitimise a person... still i would love to know ... i find a line of game stafford more precious than apbt...

I bought the book as I am interested in all Lurchers and Terriers used for their real purpose, definately not trying to legitimise myself. Of course I know that earth dogs have different lines from non working dogs of the same breed or type, I just didnt realise or imagine that it would carry over in to the heavy dog scene and if it did are those lines still around. I read Hancocks sporting terriers recently and although hard going to get through I was surprised at just how many types of terrier have dissapeared or lost their working ability over the years.

I completely understand that if these lines still exist then they should be kept by the right and knowledgeable people and not some scroat collecting his giro and drinking special brew all day but I am sure the dog men that might own them are clued up enough to know who are the right people to help keep the line going.

[Caib 49]

I am sure the dog men that might own them are clued up enough to know who are the right people to help keep the line going.

 

They do

[billybaltic 308]

The people who do have them know what they are and where they come from, the so called giro drinker's don't usually have anything decent, they are just barrel chested pig's, that could'nt run for five minute's, never mind anything else, people who have these type of dog's keep them, and if they breed them, they know where the pup's are going before they are born.

[redpat1 225]

The people who do have them know what they are and where they come from, the so called giro drinker's don't usually have anything decent, they are just barrel chested pig's, that could'nt run for five minute's, never mind anything else, people who have these type of dog's keep them, and if they breed them, they know where the pup's are going before they are born.

I understand that the strains must be conservered carefully and mainly agree with the way they do it. It just makes it impossible to get any further involved with the sport if no one is willing to help bring new fellas in to the sport, by the way, I am definately not after one as I have enough on my plate at the moment. I have just found it almost impossible to meet any dog men in my area revolving around earth and running dogs. If no one new comes in and by that I mean true comitted guys, and breathes life in to these sports then what happens to the dogs in the long term anyway, surely they will just get diluted beyond recognition and fade in to history. I am interested in trying to preserve a British past time and way of life that will be lost forever along with the right tools for doing it properly. Plenty of you guys are born to it, some of us long for the experience or chance to live it but just cant get a foot in the door.

[marshman 7,757]

Redpat there's loads of men in your area that work terriers and longdogs , I can't speak for strongdogs . But it takes people time to entrust someone with a pup that has taken a lot of time and thought to get. There's dog men and there's dog men and it takes time to work out who's the real deal!

 

 

[redpat1 225]

Redpat there's loads of men in your area that work terriers and longdogs , I can't speak for strongdogs . But it takes people time to entrust someone with a pup that has taken a lot of time and thought to get. There's dog men and there's dog men and it takes time to work out who's the real deal!

Cheers Marshman, I keep meaning to come to one of the meetings, have I missed this months? I just seemed to be bogged down with work or other personal stuff. If you let me know when the next one is I will make a real effort to attend.

By the way, I wasnt having a pop. In your situation I would probably be exactly the same, its just a bit frustrating trying to find your feet.

 

Pat

[marshman 7,757]

No worries pat ! No rush your always welcome.

[dee mac 579]

90 percent of hunting men weather be terriers lurchers hounds gundogs greyhounds etc are usually brought up with or around there choosen sport so are involved from a young age or they tagged along with a friendly neighbour etc that took them out and so through the years got too know other people involved and interested in hunting anybody now coming from the unknown looking too get involved with hunting is going too be veiwed with caution even if they are genuine may be diff were im from but if i was approached by say a young lad looking too tag along id know someone or a relation connectted to them and could then judge it for myself as for a complete stranger that i knew nothing about then sorry no way ,not much to gain but alot too loose is the way id look upon that situation

[billybaltic 308]

Maybe if they ask to go with you, just say you will go with them and ask to just bring there dog's, but if totally new to the sport, they would have no dog or permission so it must be hard, but i have found a few people do offer to let you tag along, which is a great attitude to have, and good on them for letting you.

[unlacedgecko 1,466]

My family and social circle weren't into hunting. I asked a lad on here to take me out and he did. I'm very grateful to him. I now have my own terriers, and I'll never look back...

[neil cooney 10,416]

The people who do have them know what they are and where they come from, the so called giro drinker's don't usually have anything decent, they are just barrel chested pig's, that could'nt run for five minute's, never mind anything else, people who have these type of dog's keep them, and if they breed them, they know where the pup's are going before they are born.

I understand that the strains must be conservered carefully and mainly agree with the way they do it. It just makes it impossible to get any further involved with the sport if no one is willing to help bring new fellas in to the sport, by the way, I am definately not after one as I have enough on my plate at the moment. I have just found it almost impossible to meet any dog men in my area revolving around earth and running dogs. If no one new comes in and by that I mean true comitted guys, and breathes life in to these sports then what happens to the dogs in the long term anyway, surely they will just get diluted beyond recognition and fade in to history. I am interested in trying to preserve a British past time and way of life that will be lost forever along with the right tools for doing it properly. Plenty of you guys are born to it, some of us long for the experience or chance to live it but just cant get a foot in the door.

You sure do ask a lot of questions Pat about a sport thats mostly a thing of the past that you say you don't want to get into but would like to know how to.

[top hat 127]

now when you consider the topic being talked about this is one strange comment to make on an open forum

.......I understand that the strains must be conservered carefully and mainly agree with the way they do it. It just makes it impossible to get any further involved with the sport if no one is willing to help bring new fellas in to the sport,