whippet 99 2,613 Posted May 2, 2012 Report Share Posted May 2, 2012 Great debating thread Andy My personal opinion is some dogs were made "false" legends via a careful advertising campaign, Merle could of become one of these "legends". Respected legends in various areas of lurcherwork seem to had made a reputaion through their work in the field, and as you mention longevity, skills and that certain "something" is required with many more cementing that legendary status by producing stock better than themsleves, dogs such as Punch, Dancer, Pie, Blue, Blondie, Merlin, Eve, Seagull and a few more. These dogs attained legendary status through actions, not rumours or being bullied up...... Nowadays "legends" can be made overnight on the internet without any real substance....... yeah whin was my legend , proven in the field Quote Link to post
reddawn 2,173 Posted May 2, 2012 Report Share Posted May 2, 2012 (edited) iv heard about loads a great dogs, could actually count the good uns iv seen on 1 hand tho, never mind the great uns Edited May 2, 2012 by reddawn Quote Link to post
whippet 99 2,613 Posted May 2, 2012 Report Share Posted May 2, 2012 i exspect there are some very good working dogs out there , but the thing is these days with the thefts and the barbaric laws we now have, who in there right mind would take other folk out . for one only a fool would big up there own dogs on public media and secondly you cant trust no one these days . loose lips sink ships and i think you will find in this day and age dog folk will keep there selfs to there selfs and do there own thing descreetly and for this reason i belive there are wonder dogs out there , but they will never be publicised this day and age, for obvious reasons 4 Quote Link to post
Macky 227 Posted May 2, 2012 Report Share Posted May 2, 2012 I have been lucky enough to see a good few dogs on foxes pre ban .In my gallery there are afew pictures I have put up pic 3 ,pic 15, and pic 9 these dogs are no longer with us but were some of the best I have been out with paired up or single handed . Quote Link to post
Penda 3,341 Posted May 2, 2012 Report Share Posted May 2, 2012 I think a dog and the owner have to earn a status such as legend in the field not on an advertisement in a magazine or on the net saying the dogs caught ex amount of this and that ive saw decent dogs run and heard of legends that were around way before my time many people may not think they were legends but in the eye of the owner the dog is a legend the best thing since sliced bread. I always say work them hard what ever there level of work may be and always breed best to best 1 Quote Link to post
TROY_BOY 62 Posted May 2, 2012 Report Share Posted May 2, 2012 Great debating thread Andy My personal opinion is some dogs were made "false" legends via a careful advertising campaign, Merle could of become one of these "legends". Respected legends in various areas of lurcherwork seem to had made a reputaion through their work in the field, and as you mention longevity, skills and that certain "something" is required with many more cementing that legendary status by producing stock better than themsleves, dogs such as Punch, Dancer, Pie, Blue, Blondie, Merlin, Eve, Seagull and a few more. These dogs attained legendary status through actions, not rumours or being bullied up...... Nowadays "legends" can be made overnight on the internet without any real substance....... like the lucas dog si As Andy says, only heard of this Lucas dog on THL, i would say are there any legends today?????? Fred mentions a dog which could bring down a red stag pre ban) he would class as a legend, not for me im afraid, a legend is a dog that excells at its chosen vocation, shows this certain extra something week in week out for many a season and even better if if can pass on its attributes, especially if these attributes are increased......Dare i say it but "lengendary status" is that certain x factor, before the ban you may have had several dogs who regularly caught 5/5 winter hares but on of those would stand out due to an extra quality, perhaps the ability to do it several days a week, or do it on any land, or do it because along with its skill it had the constitution to do it regularly.............or a ferreting dog that marks, catches bolters, marks kills, but does it with that extra quality...........or the deer dog that pulled a a dozen a week, but pulled various species, in various different environments and made it look easy................or the fox dog who pulled them several nights a week, they rarely turned the dog a third time and the dog was rarely bitten or injured and just worked like a machine..........They all may have that certain something that makes them legendary BUT its not a tangable thing, its not easily explained but when you see it, you know it............. 5/5 regularly that be a pretty legendary dog to me if i had it mate Quote Link to post
TROY_BOY 62 Posted May 2, 2012 Report Share Posted May 2, 2012 Consitancy for all its running years then passing on the qualitys it had to its offspring so if muhammed ali's son coudn't box he woudn't be a legend lol Quote Link to post
Guest joball Posted May 2, 2012 Report Share Posted May 2, 2012 Only ever heard of certain dogs on here if i didnt come on i wouldnt have a clue who they where. No matter how good these lads think there dogs, lines etc are and snob others out of fear they have better! Or they'll loose abit of internet status when there meat heads get shown up lol, Theres always better dogs out there from some un heard of line etc fact! Quote Link to post
poacher3161 1,766 Posted May 2, 2012 Report Share Posted May 2, 2012 And some owners just keep quite about how good their dogs are. 7 Quote Link to post
fredthefrog 169 Posted May 3, 2012 Report Share Posted May 3, 2012 yes an some shite dogs are made great in capable hands..... See, I read that a lot Fred but I wonder?, my opinion is that a shite dog in the hands of lads who really graft them would just break down, don't you think? I can accept that certain lads can get more out of dogs than other lads, but I don't accept that you can turn shite into gold at all.....all you can ever get is slightly better shite IMHO. What do you reckon matey? yes an some shite dogs are made great in capable hands..... See, I read that a lot Fred but I wonder?, my opinion is that a shite dog in the hands of lads who really graft them would just break down, don't you think? I can accept that certain lads can get more out of dogs than other lads, but I don't accept that you can turn shite into gold at all.....all you can ever get is slightly better shite IMHO. What do you reckon matey? ye know something i think you hit the nail on the head there my good man....all the best Quote Link to post
fredthefrog 169 Posted May 3, 2012 Report Share Posted May 3, 2012 (edited) Edited May 3, 2012 by fredthefrog Quote Link to post
BLACKWATER... 157 Posted May 3, 2012 Report Share Posted May 3, 2012 best dogs are the ones who over a few seasons work ,talk for there self saw it several times , they dont need to much internet bosting as they are out there ,doing the nessesary ,in any bodys company end of realy , Quote Link to post
wilt 112 Posted May 3, 2012 Report Share Posted May 3, 2012 And some owners just keep quite about how good their dogs are. Quote Link to post
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