bird 9,872 Posted May 2, 2012 Report Share Posted May 2, 2012 Do you reckon old Harry had a think about it, realised he is on a hiding to nothing with England and swerved it? a good chance .! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
kenny14 656 Posted May 3, 2012 Report Share Posted May 3, 2012 Fergie always describes the England managers job as a poisoned chalice, which is a pretty accurate description. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Lab 10,979 Posted May 3, 2012 Report Share Posted May 3, 2012 Fergie always describes the England managers job as a poisoned chalice, which is a pretty accurate description. Wouldn't every managers job be a bit like that though? If it goes well your a hero and if it goes tits up your to blame. I've always thought that an International managers job should be a little easier as you only have certain players to pick from and if they players are not up to scratch and you cant get it out of them then theres not alot you can do. Club supporters can harras there manager as they spend there money and if they get it wrong we like a moan. With International football we all know theres a list of players and thats that. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
kenny14 656 Posted May 3, 2012 Report Share Posted May 3, 2012 Fergie always describes the England managers job as a poisoned chalice, which is a pretty accurate description. Wouldn't every managers job be a bit like that though? If it goes well your a hero and if it goes tits up your to blame. I've always thought that an International managers job should be a little easier as you only have certain players to pick from and if they players are not up to scratch and you cant get it out of them then theres not alot you can do. Club supporters can harras there manager as they spend there money and if they get it wrong we like a moan. With International football we all know theres a list of players and thats that. It's been so long since an England manager had it go well, but a very interesting point Lab. And put like that, it sounds so simple. So if you have a solution, I'm sure you'll be a very rich man! . Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Lab 10,979 Posted May 3, 2012 Report Share Posted May 3, 2012 Fergie always describes the England managers job as a poisoned chalice, which is a pretty accurate description. Wouldn't every managers job be a bit like that though? If it goes well your a hero and if it goes tits up your to blame. I've always thought that an International managers job should be a little easier as you only have certain players to pick from and if they players are not up to scratch and you cant get it out of them then theres not alot you can do. Club supporters can harras there manager as they spend there money and if they get it wrong we like a moan. With International football we all know theres a list of players and thats that. It's been so long since an England manager had it go well, but a very interesting point Lab. And put like that, it sounds so simple. So if you have a solution, I'm sure you'll be a very rich man! . If i had the solution i'd be f****d if i'd be telling you lot.................. I do think you've missed out your manager once again though. I know the debate is going on about Harry at the minute but i just think he has a quality that could win you stuff. I cant put my finger on it, its just a mixture of man management and that little bit of luck i think...... Straight awayyou have appointed a manager who has everyone talking for the wrong reasons.....i think his first few games will be crucial in seeing where you'll go from there. If it goes well and he does carry that little bit of luck then who knows he might be the man for the job but if it swiongs the other way there will be alot of fans and the media ready to jump on the band wagon and slate him. Can he handle the pressure.....? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
kenny14 656 Posted May 3, 2012 Report Share Posted May 3, 2012 Fergie always describes the England managers job as a poisoned chalice, which is a pretty accurate description. Wouldn't every managers job be a bit like that though? If it goes well your a hero and if it goes tits up your to blame. I've always thought that an International managers job should be a little easier as you only have certain players to pick from and if they players are not up to scratch and you cant get it out of them then theres not alot you can do. Club supporters can harras there manager as they spend there money and if they get it wrong we like a moan. With International football we all know theres a list of players and thats that. It's been so long since an England manager had it go well, but a very interesting point Lab. And put like that, it sounds so simple. So if you have a solution, I'm sure you'll be a very rich man! . If i had the solution i'd be f****d if i'd be telling you lot.................. I do think you've missed out your manager once again though. I know the debate is going on about Harry at the minute but i just think he has a quality that could win you stuff. I cant put my finger on it, its just a mixture of man management and that little bit of luck i think...... Straight awayyou have appointed a manager who has everyone talking for the wrong reasons.....i think his first few games will be crucial in seeing where you'll go from there. If it goes well and he does carry that little bit of luck then who knows he might be the man for the job but if it swiongs the other way there will be alot of fans and the media ready to jump on the band wagon and slate him. Can he handle the pressure.....? Only time will tell. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
rob190364 2,594 Posted May 3, 2012 Report Share Posted May 3, 2012 ...the British media has a lot to do with why the England managers job is so shite! they're sat waiting to hammer the bloke into the ground as soon as there's any kind of slip up. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
gnasher16 30,086 Posted May 3, 2012 Report Share Posted May 3, 2012 ...the British media has a lot to do with why the England managers job is so shite! they're sat waiting to hammer the bloke into the ground as soon as there's any kind of slip up. Exactly.......Club managers are not on offer to the general public like the national manager......The mans not even in the job 1 day and he,s already front cover of the national newspapers being humiliated on a national scale for reasons nothing to do with football....f****n disgusting our press,i wonder would they have been so quick to put pictures of monkeys on the front page if Paul Ince had got the job !! So the mans got a speech impediment big deal i hardly think its going to influence how he manages a football club.....and it wasnt an issue last week !...............any chance them f****n vultures from the press get.......and then later on they,ll start asking why we fail ! 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
asanley 1,009 Posted May 3, 2012 Report Share Posted May 3, 2012 A decent man , who , now he,s been given the job , should be given a chance , unfortunatly the press wanted Harry so they will be ready to pounce on any chance they get to say ..I told you so . I hope Hodgson has got the strength of character to come out the other side without too much damage .but those vultures are going to give him a rough ride , thats for sure . Quote Link to post Share on other sites
rob190364 2,594 Posted May 5, 2012 Report Share Posted May 5, 2012 ...the British media has a lot to do with why the England managers job is so shite! they're sat waiting to hammer the bloke into the ground as soon as there's any kind of slip up. Exactly.......Club managers are not on offer to the general public like the national manager......The mans not even in the job 1 day and he,s already front cover of the national newspapers being humiliated on a national scale for reasons nothing to do with football....f****n disgusting our press,i wonder would they have been so quick to put pictures of monkeys on the front page if Paul Ince had got the job !! So the mans got a speech impediment big deal i hardly think its going to influence how he manages a football club.....and it wasnt an issue last week !...............any chance them f****n vultures from the press get.......and then later on they,ll start asking why we fail ! What also annoys me is how if somehow England won something under Hodgson, all of a sudden they'd be kissing his ass all over the front page and making out that they always knew he would do the business. They are a boil on the arse of this country! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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