WILF 46,774 Posted April 30, 2012 Report Share Posted April 30, 2012 Club first, football second for me too pal but I am afraid that don't extend as far as England......when England give the fans as much passion as the fans give them, then they may deserve a bit more respect IMHO What exactly is passion Wilf ?......running round like headless chickens ? Its a phrase that gets thrown around a lot......is it a money thing ? do we think when a player playing well on 500 quid a weekgets noticed and go,s to Man Utd on 100,000 a week he should " run around " more or " shout louder "..................what is this passion thing ?.......our players lack technical ability compared to the Spanish.....but i dont think the Spanish have any more passion,determination or will to win than our lads they are just more gifted footballers with better understanding of the game. Fair reply mate, it's a hard thing to put you finger on but to me Julian had it, Roy Keane had it, Paulo has it, Dunga had it, Parker has it......can't explain it but you can feel it and I just don't feel it with England. I think what teams like Spain have above all else is a confidence in their own ability and a belief about them that England very rearly show. England seem to walk on a pitch hoping to get a win, the best teams walk onto a pitch knowing they will win ! Jmho like pal Quote Link to post Share on other sites
WILF 46,774 Posted April 30, 2012 Report Share Posted April 30, 2012 And i mean real passion and hatred, not mickey mouse stuff like the Hammers and Millwall. ATB Lab.... Never mind the game, it's the walk to and from the ground that would make your hair curl! Lol lol 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
gonetoearth 5,144 Posted April 30, 2012 Author Report Share Posted April 30, 2012 You wont see me whinging....i take it for what it is............a debate!! Seems to me the only one getting there back up is you. Infact all i have stated is England is a good side in need of a top manager. Once again i'll say it............I'm not blaming money cause all the money in the world wont chnage the talent that is coming through. Dont get me wrong the younger National side seems to be doing ok so heres hoping for the forseeable future.... Now away and have some pie and mash or some jellied f*****g eels before you ahve a heart attack..... It takes more than a " wee jock " on the internet to get my back up mate Ive said it a zillion times......a Scot cant talk about football without talking about England.......thats the way it was is and will always be......my bet is you will watch the Manc derby game tonight....i havent watched a Celtic/Rangers game for years.........i love football you love football......some things tell their own story i suppose. ....Hohoho.......The Internet!!...... Sorry to burst yer bubble mate but its only cause we are on an English manager thread that were talking about it. Infact your beginning to sound a little bit arrogant and exactly what the rest of the world cant stand. But your right i will be watching the game tonight and thats just because i reckon it will be a cracker. Maybe you should try an Old Firm game now and again. Would let you know what passion really is since your struggling with Wilfs explanation. And i mean real passion and hatred, not mickey mouse stuff like the Hammers and Millwall. ATB Lab.... I MADE THE JOURNEY UP TO THE MATCH YEARS AGO I ONLY WISH THE PASSION ON THE PITCH MATCHED THAT ON THE TERRORSIS am sorry to say lab face facts they are in the main shite only the outdated hatetred of the fans is what keeps it going this is not a knock at the supporters scotish football for me is a glimps of the future when the bubble bursts down here as it will, Quote Link to post Share on other sites
gnasher16 30,079 Posted April 30, 2012 Report Share Posted April 30, 2012 ] ....Hohoho.......The Internet!!...... I dont understand....what does that mean ? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
gnasher16 30,079 Posted April 30, 2012 Report Share Posted April 30, 2012 Fair reply mate, it's a hard thing to put you finger on but to me Julian had it, Roy Keane had it, Paulo has it, Dunga had it, Parker has it......can't explain it but you can feel it and I just don't feel it with England. I think what teams like Spain have above all else is a confidence in their own ability and a belief about them that England very rearly show. England seem to walk on a pitch hoping to get a win, the best teams walk onto a pitch knowing they will win ! Jmho like pal Pearce ? Vinny Jones ?.....thats not passion thats just a certain type of player....like Keane or Parker or Dickes......they are no more passionate in my opinion they just wore their heart on their sleeve and played on adrenalin.......you know the game Wilf you just cant have 11 players running round like that....could you imagine 5 or 6 Julian Dickes in a side it would end up 5 a side Confidence in your own ability well thats another ingredient altogether i suppose. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Lab 10,979 Posted April 30, 2012 Report Share Posted April 30, 2012 And i mean real passion and hatred, not mickey mouse stuff like the Hammers and Millwall. ATB Lab.... Never mind the game, it's the walk to and from the ground that would make your hair curl! Lol lol I can imagine mate.... Just a 'wee jock' trying to wind up a cracky Hammers fan....... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Lab 10,979 Posted April 30, 2012 Report Share Posted April 30, 2012 You wont see me whinging....i take it for what it is............a debate!! Seems to me the only one getting there back up is you. Infact all i have stated is England is a good side in need of a top manager. Once again i'll say it............I'm not blaming money cause all the money in the world wont chnage the talent that is coming through. Dont get me wrong the younger National side seems to be doing ok so heres hoping for the forseeable future.... Now away and have some pie and mash or some jellied f*****g eels before you ahve a heart attack..... It takes more than a " wee jock " on the internet to get my back up mate Ive said it a zillion times......a Scot cant talk about football without talking about England.......thats the way it was is and will always be......my bet is you will watch the Manc derby game tonight....i havent watched a Celtic/Rangers game for years.........i love football you love football......some things tell their own story i suppose. ....Hohoho.......The Internet!!...... Sorry to burst yer bubble mate but its only cause we are on an English manager thread that were talking about it. Infact your beginning to sound a little bit arrogant and exactly what the rest of the world cant stand. But your right i will be watching the game tonight and thats just because i reckon it will be a cracker. Maybe you should try an Old Firm game now and again. Would let you know what passion really is since your struggling with Wilfs explanation. And i mean real passion and hatred, not mickey mouse stuff like the Hammers and Millwall. ATB Lab.... I MADE THE JOURNEY UP TO THE MATCH YEARS AGO I ONLY WISH THE PASSION ON THE PITCH MATCHED THAT ON THE TERRORSIS am sorry to say lab face facts they are in the main shite only the outdated hatetred of the fans is what keeps it going this is not a knock at the supporters scotish football for me is a glimps of the future when the bubble bursts down here as it will, Probably. No money to draw players up here so we just cant get top flight players anymore so something has to give... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Lab 10,979 Posted April 30, 2012 Report Share Posted April 30, 2012 ] ....Hohoho.......The Internet!!...... I dont understand....what does that mean ? Thats means its the first time i've been called "wee" in 31 years.... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
gnasher16 30,079 Posted April 30, 2012 Report Share Posted April 30, 2012 (edited) Thats means its the first time i've been called "wee" in 31 years.... You could be Tarzan for all i know i didnt mean that......i thought " wee " was a Scottish word no.......sorry just trying to " fit in " with the cool crew of The Huntinglife ...............................not sure if im getting old or your on the juice , trainings going well,clearly Edited April 30, 2012 by gnasher16 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Lab 10,979 Posted April 30, 2012 Report Share Posted April 30, 2012 Thats means its the first time i've been called "wee" in 31 years.... You could be Tarzan for all i know i didnt mean that......i thought " wee " was a Scottish word no.......sorry just trying to " fit in " with the cool crew of The Huntinglife Just found it funny........ Not quite Tarzan either but its only been 4 months at the gym, give me a chance. I do have a leopard skin thong though........ Quote Link to post Share on other sites
lanesra 3,994 Posted April 30, 2012 Report Share Posted April 30, 2012 Im struggling here to remember what Harry Redknapp has actually done to be such a big favourite for the job ... i thnk Hodgson is not as bad as some are making out ... you dont get the England job just for being NICE , be carefull what you wish for , Liverpool fans wanted Dalglish the minute Hodgson walked through the door and on league form he has a worse record than hodgson did in his short time there WITH the 100 odd million he has spent ! 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
GrCh 856 Posted April 30, 2012 Report Share Posted April 30, 2012 is there a cool crew on hunting life, i thought we were all geeks or so i'm told. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
tandors 888 Posted April 30, 2012 Report Share Posted April 30, 2012 the biased southern media wanted their darling harry to get it and now its looking unlikely theyre sticking the knife in hodgeson already its unbelievable. english football at club levels on its arse and is unsustainable as it is i look forward to national competitions to get away from that. scots managers do tend to be better i can accept that just like black managers are crap these are just facts i dont like redknap anyway that twitch does my head in Quote Link to post Share on other sites
gnasher16 30,079 Posted April 30, 2012 Report Share Posted April 30, 2012 the biased southern media wanted their darling harry to get it Hodgson is from further south than Harry ! 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
tandors 888 Posted April 30, 2012 Report Share Posted April 30, 2012 lol ive got a bee in my bonnet after reading the match report from the official west ham supporters fan club, sorry the bbc on saturday. every angle in society there is anglophobia im starting to believe all these conspiracys about jews running the country trying to belittle everything english and making us embarressed of who we are. we need to get behind the manager whoever it is. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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