taking up falconry

[paulus 26]

I said to a pal three or four years ago Goshawks are on a sticky wicket with the amount now being bred by insemination, the sad thing is its all come about sooner than first thought.

 

at least 99% of the imprinted birds end up in breeding programs which consiquently Has/Will flood the market like the HH's have previously...

 

Its a shame as the Goshawk once upon a time was the opitime of falconry. reaching the stage of taking up and flying a highly prized P/R Gos proved a certain standard you have acheived though out your Falconry career, these days its sad to say every tom dick and harry has one due to the amount now available and rock bottom prices? there's more and more being bred exceeding demand ...

 

How long before the Peregrine reaches this stage? the sad thing about these is not so many people want them to fly with more wanting them to imprint for future breeding stock, one of the reason very seldom a Imprint will leave these premises.

times have changed mate and not for the better thats for sure, i remember when the gos was considered the pinicle of falconry and the only real chance i had of owning one was on loan from the bfc and imprinting was considered a fault on the part of the falconer,

[bullseye76 16]

Ty kat u.wish people.would spend. Season with someone.seeing.if its for them then save a lot of waisted money and.another bird bred for no reason I.have always said it.if a Harris was still 2k to buy there would.be hardly any taking it up,I'm not trying to be snobby just people would have to save a long time and.put far more effort in.it will be buy one get one free soon lol

Gl in the sport just wish people would not rush in to it

 

Well the Harris is a fantastic bird and totally done for due to its prolific and ease of breeding the prices are almost disposable now. I have noticed a massive surge in goshawks for sale and being bred do you think these are going to go the same way?

 

Bull I have done the lantra it was worth doing as it gives you a good understanding of many aspects of falconry I would do it sooner rather than later you will get experience of picking up and putting down birds I had to demonstrate lure work and complete a booklet that looked at diseases, bird care, housing etc. I would say definately get telemetry for your bird as its a god send and will stop you losing it. With so many harris being sold on I would be more inclined to buy a second hand bird that is over 3 years of age. Chances of it being a screamer are lowered if you insist on seeing the bird flown as they cant have it sitting fat as butter. Also you are merely retraining and there are some good birds that get wasted.

 

If we could get a culture of people buying older birds then the insentive to breed would be dramatically reduced as there would be a reduced demand. Instead you get the attitude that you buy an older second hand hawk and it will have problems. Some do but alot dont people merely start with a harris and then want to move onto another bird. I have had two older harris hawks and they are brilliant.

cheers city hunter

if this mentor i poss got lined up don't turn out then i think i do the lantra

im defo get telemetry no matter what

and I'm not gonna get a second hand bird I'm getting a parent reared bird that i can have the complete pleasure of training it myself i will be doing a diary on the IFF

and not matter what the haters say i guarantee i still got my bird in years to come

cheers for your possitivity

atb stu

[grovsey 74]

Instead of lantra get Dr nick fox series of dvds believe me they the best thing on the market and you can always look back over again and again

[bullseye76 16]

I'm on it like wallace and gromit grovsey ordered 3 mate , basic training, health care and nutrition I've heard these are good before but i was half way through phil glasiers book falconry & hawking I'm just gonna start falconry art & practice by emma ford and have already read the harris hawk by lee william harris to be honest dvds are prob gonna be a lot easier to take in aswell

atb stu

[grovsey 74]

Monet well spent I always recommend them but most won't pay the price but will.buy a.bird.telem ect no.problem