weasle 1,119 Posted May 1, 2012 Report Share Posted May 1, 2012 Grey hound for me especially if your going to use them on rabbits,You would need or the speed you can get.? coursing dogs a good choice for the second x in my opinion not that its worth much. I have lamped and ferreted with my own purebred collie/shepherds and caught many bunnies, i'd say they only needed a little more pace and if i wanted to breed a hunting dog, then the coursing dog does add pace, more than enough for bunnies but also many more attributes the greyhound doesn't. just my opinion........ Yes you can lamp rabbits with a slow dog but knock up a few bunnies in the day,even at night its not much fun watching rabbits bounce of fences to be caught..Your adding the Shepard to get the other attributes,some in the litter will be faster than others for the slower ones that extra bit could mean the difference of being any good or not,But each to there own,it wont effect me either way. Quote Link to post
Simoman 110 Posted May 1, 2012 Report Share Posted May 1, 2012 Same here, but for me a coursng dog x shepherd, even the wastage woul be more than quick enough for bunnies Quote Link to post
Simoman 110 Posted May 1, 2012 Report Share Posted May 1, 2012 Must admit i would prefer to put a quality coursing dog over a pure breed now than any greyhound, not that i breed but i'd rather a bull/coursing or colllie/coursing dog, may loose a little pace but in my opinion the inherent qualities of a coursing dog as opposed to a track dog would outweigh this, just my opinion.... Do Yous mean a Coursing Greyhound instead of a Track Greyhound ? If so nowdays id disagree, Coursing Greyhounds are Far to Big and Heavy (90-100 lbs weight ) Bred for pace in strait lines over 300-400 m Nowdays when using Greyhounds to Influence Lurcher Breeding Best Find a Quality Track Staying Type. Hi mate, no i meant i'd sooner use a line bred coursing lurcher rather than a pure greyhound...... Quote Link to post
tinytiger 846 Posted May 1, 2012 Report Share Posted May 1, 2012 Must admit i would prefer to put a quality coursing dog over a pure breed now than any greyhound, not that i breed but i'd rather a bull/coursing or colllie/coursing dog, may loose a little pace but in my opinion the inherent qualities of a coursing dog as opposed to a track dog would outweigh this, just my opinion.... Do Yous mean a Coursing Greyhound instead of a Track Greyhound ? If so nowdays id disagree, Coursing Greyhounds are Far to Big and Heavy (90-100 lbs weight ) Bred for pace in strait lines over 300-400 m Nowdays when using Greyhounds to Influence Lurcher Breeding Best Find a Quality Track Staying Type. Only the odd one is that size-i think the big ones are successful because they get less work behind the hare(cant turn).I have both myself -id say there is a lot more hunting intelligence in coursing greyhounds but track dogs are a lot more honest..There was a black alsation lurcher around my village when i was a kid that was the size of a great dane. Quote Link to post
Good Man 196 Posted May 1, 2012 Report Share Posted May 1, 2012 Must admit i would prefer to put a quality coursing dog over a pure breed now than any greyhound, not that i breed but i'd rather a bull/coursing or colllie/coursing dog, may loose a little pace but in my opinion the inherent qualities of a coursing dog as opposed to a track dog would outweigh this, just my opinion.... Do Yous mean a Coursing Greyhound instead of a Track Greyhound ? If so nowdays id disagree, Coursing Greyhounds are Far to Big and Heavy (90-100 lbs weight ) Bred for pace in strait lines over 300-400 m Nowdays when using Greyhounds to Influence Lurcher Breeding Best Find a Quality Track Staying Type. 1 Quote Link to post
darbo 4,776 Posted May 1, 2012 Report Share Posted May 1, 2012 one of the most consistant hare catchers i have ever seen and this was in the 80s. was a gsdx greyhound cross 3/4 greyhound 1/4 deerhound. a fantastic dog on big open fields the only quarry he was used on. Quote Link to post
longdoglad 0 Posted May 1, 2012 Report Share Posted May 1, 2012 dutch shepherd x at 7 months litter brother at 14 months very nice piks helps keep unwanted attention aswell Quote Link to post
forest of dean redneck 11,759 Posted May 1, 2012 Report Share Posted May 1, 2012 there was a litter of bullgreys x shepherds advertised in the uk awhile ago has anyone came across one, i often wondered what they would have gone like. Quote Link to post
TOMO 26,948 Posted May 1, 2012 Report Share Posted May 1, 2012 a lad i knew had a bull/grey x gsd/grey about 20 years ago,, seen it take rabbit, fox , and fallow in the same night,, a very deacent dog Quote Link to post
forest of dean redneck 11,759 Posted May 1, 2012 Report Share Posted May 1, 2012 a lad i knew had a bull/grey x gsd/grey about 20 years ago,, seen it take rabbit, fox , and fallow in the same night,, a very deacent dog do you think the shepherd added abit of stability/easiness to train to the mix tomo? Quote Link to post
TOMO 26,948 Posted May 1, 2012 Report Share Posted May 1, 2012 a lad i knew had a bull/grey x gsd/grey about 20 years ago,, seen it take rabbit, fox , and fallow in the same night,, a very deacent dog do you think the shepherd added abit of stability/easiness to train to the mix tomo? i never seen it from a pup,, just as an adult..... but on paper you would think so..... but bull terreiers are quite inteligent anyway its just alot of owners cant be arsed to train them.. the suprising thing about that particular dog was how athletic it was,,, it was far lighter in build than most big bull cross types,, it had more of a 3/4 type build,,,, like i say i liked it ,, Quote Link to post
TALKS CHEAP 30 Posted May 1, 2012 Report Share Posted May 1, 2012 aye thats right flint, you aint the 1st or only person to do it with out arguing give me one good reason why youd use a coarsing dog Quote Link to post
reddawn 2,173 Posted May 1, 2012 Report Share Posted May 1, 2012 aye thats right flint, you aint the 1st or only person to do it with out arguing give me one good reason why youd use a coarsing dog they work... Quote Link to post
TALKS CHEAP 30 Posted May 1, 2012 Report Share Posted May 1, 2012 aye thats right flint, you aint the 1st or only person to do it with out arguing give me one good reason why youd use a coarsing dog they work... il tell you why not then , the x as plenty of stamina if fit , very clever and plenty of guts,and the pups from the straight x , should look very much the same,from the coarsing dog they could be al shapes and size,s and you also have a good chance of losing a bit of speed Quote Link to post
malc1 544 Posted May 1, 2012 Report Share Posted May 1, 2012 why not use a proven lurcher and why do people prefer stright backed to a sloped Quote Link to post
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