dixiebop 125 Posted April 23, 2012 Report Share Posted April 23, 2012 Love how folk can just say he is a minority and think they are right. It's been a few year now since the far right has been a minority. You only needed to look at the change in the political parties Across Europe. Even here our own ukip are now the third major party in the uk, and I'm delighted to see it. People are wakening up across Europe and the rest of the world.they see the problems in thier nation and others around them from Muslim extremists and at the same time thier own customs and values play second fiddle to the wants of the minorities, no matter how trivial,the governments of these nations will accommodate the same minorities requests regardless of whether it infringes our rights or Way of life all that white gets you these days is ignored And walked over Like a doormat. However it's changing And the more the politicians continue to treat us this way is ok by me, cause its only adding to the vast numbers across Europe and elsewhere who look to the right for a solution. Only idiots with thier heads buried in the sand look to the left No the right is far from being a minority, even when nut jobs like him shoot innocent people , we will condem it, but you only need to do a bit of reading to see that the same people don't condem his ideology. The same people being whom exactly...the grand wizard, the nazi party the NF?.....this has nowt to do with muslim extremists.....he was a christain who murdered other christain children and anyone believing that this idealogy is ok...has more screws loose than him......tell me this SH...do you condone an ideology that makes it ok to murder innocents to prove a point? .....and the right is a minority and long may it remain that way. I don,t think their would have been many Christians,on the island,Communists, Trots maybe,Innocence is only the opinion of your peers..Lenin,Stalin,Pol Pot All Innocent according to Party manifesto,just rooting out the rot in their Utopia, Brevik upsets us ,because he is an insite into what we are capable off if pushed,he just mirrors society as a whole,but using a Zoom lense,we sometimes dont appear to see what is around us.Andy Roxburgh wrote a good book about the Rise of the right a few years back,not much was said in it ,that has not come True.. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
foxfan 479 Posted April 23, 2012 Report Share Posted April 23, 2012 The people at the top are very devious and clever, they know the public need a bogey man or two, to keep public opinion onside for their illegal wars, enter Hamza and co stage left. I've said it before and i'll say it again, the Islamist's are being used and we are all being played like a fiddle. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
tandors 888 Posted April 23, 2012 Report Share Posted April 23, 2012 if they are using islamists i reckon its to bring in more draconian laws in to keep the general population dumbed down. I dont think they expect people to push against it and seeing the far right as the answer which is whats happening and i reckon the government will be really worried about some kind of uprising and that brevik is just the start Quote Link to post Share on other sites
WILF 48,373 Posted April 23, 2012 Author Report Share Posted April 23, 2012 (edited) I don,t think their would have been many Christians,on the island,Communists, Trots maybe,Innocence is only the opinion of your peers..Lenin,Stalin,Pol Pot All Innocent according to Party manifesto,just rooting out the rot in their Utopia, Brevik upsets us ,because he is an insite into what we are capable off if pushed,he just mirrors society as a whole,but using a Zoom lense,we sometimes dont appear to see what is around us.Andy Roxburgh wrote a good book about the Rise of the right a few years back,not much was said in it ,that has not come True.. Angus Roxborough, Preachers Of Hate My personal opinion is that all the major political parties, the political elite and those organisation who claim to promote cultural tolerance all have to shoulder some of the blame for the actions of a man like Breivik. Example, I work and deal with africans, indians, pakistanis, homosexuals.......all manner of people. I deal with them out of my own choice based solely on the fact of if I think we can get along and do business together, same as I would anyone else. Now if someone or something (like a government or a law) tell me from the get go that I "must" like these people and that I can not express an opinion or hold view about them that is in any way negative then it stands to reason that I will approach them from the off with a slightly skewed view. We are forced into ever closer links with foriegn cultures that we have absolutely no say over, in fact queit the opposite, we have to be very careful now what we do say for fear of the ever present thought police giving us a knock on the door. We are all at liberty (at the moment) to decide what happens in our own home, we can decide who enters and who does not but that same liberty does not extend to the borders of our country or indeed what go,s on inside those borders. Now it may be paranoid nonsense to see the enemy within at every turn, but I have to ask myself, why do so many feel that way?........they cant all be wrong surely? To my mind we are at a political "emporers new clothes" stage, where all the major parties and the political elite are scared shitless someone will shout "they have got f**k all on"........then the whole house of cards comes down and many of them will have no political future because they bet against the people instictively knowing whats right for them and lost. I beleive that ordinary folks when given a say, no matter what their political persuasion, normally get it right. Some people only see colour, but I have faith that most intelligent people only see a human being and deal with every individual accordingly, on their own terms and in a way that gives them the result they want from the encounter, not what they are told to do. Edited April 23, 2012 by WILF 4 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Roxyboi 64 Posted April 23, 2012 Report Share Posted April 23, 2012 (edited) Angus Roxborough, Preachers Of Hate Is this book still available Edited April 23, 2012 by Roxyboi Quote Link to post Share on other sites
dixiebop 125 Posted April 23, 2012 Report Share Posted April 23, 2012 Angus Roxborough, Preachers Of Hate Is this book still available I,ll give you a Read,Andy Roxburghs' was about Scottish football playing down the Left ! L.O.L. thanks for that Wilf,was a good insight .. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
dixiebop 125 Posted April 23, 2012 Report Share Posted April 23, 2012 A small extract,of said Book,"Like many of Europe's populist parties parties,the Vlamms Blok has exploited the changes that have taken place over recent decades in society: the emergence of multicultural communities,the dislocation caused by post-industrial eonomic change and the degeneration of mainstream coalitions that have ruled unchallenged far too long.As Swyngedouw concludes: 'The likely losers in this structural transformation are young,unskilled,blue-collarworkers,lower-middle- class employees and small businessmen." (Like most of Us) These are the categories which have sought salvation in the Vlamms Blok,which has offered them the simple but misleading illusion that once all the immigrants have gone,the prospects for welfare and the certainties of the past will all come flooding back .' Not unlike the Rightwing here ..have done since day dot. Mosely etc..usually with the backing of a monied Elite,who like to keep the peasants busy fighting a bogey man.Orange Order ,set up by landed Masonic gentry to save the Status Quo ie; themselves and their income... Knights of Columba ,the same different Masters same old game, keep you looking the other way , while robbing you of your time and labour,so they can be Idle..People like to feelpart of the Big picture even if they are only bit parts Quote Link to post Share on other sites
steve66 3,647 Posted April 23, 2012 Report Share Posted April 23, 2012 who me lol? No the fcuker who abandoned ship Could have a career on a italian cruze shipe Quote Link to post Share on other sites
PlasticJock 539 Posted April 23, 2012 Report Share Posted April 23, 2012 who me lol? No the fcuker who abandoned ship Could have a career on a italian cruze shipe Direct entry to Captain Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Attack Fell Terrier 864 Posted April 23, 2012 Report Share Posted April 23, 2012 The people at the top are very devious and clever, they know the public need a bogey man or two, to keep public opinion onside for their illegal wars, enter Hamza and co stage left. I've said it before and i'll say it again, the Islamist's are being used and we are all being played like a fiddle. I agree with you but It's not just Islamic extremists that people have a problem with. Even without the extremists, people just aren't happy sharing their country, that they love, with people who cheapen the place, disrespect it and make parts of it places you don't even like to drive through let alone live in. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
dixiebop 125 Posted April 23, 2012 Report Share Posted April 23, 2012 The people at the top are very devious and clever, they know the public need a bogey man or two, to keep public opinion onside for their illegal wars, enter Hamza and co stage left. I've said it before and i'll say it again, the Islamist's are being used and we are all being played like a fiddle. I agree with you but It's not just Islamic extremists that people have a problem with. Even without the extremists, people just aren't happy sharing their country, that they love, with people who cheapen the place, disrespect it and make parts of it places you don't even like to drive through let alone live in. Been tried before,offload all the people you talk about,They put out the indeginous folk to the margins of THEIR country,and were White,it's callled Austraila. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
foxfan 479 Posted April 23, 2012 Report Share Posted April 23, 2012 The people at the top are very devious and clever, they know the public need a bogey man or two, to keep public opinion onside for their illegal wars, enter Hamza and co stage left. I've said it before and i'll say it again, the Islamist's are being used and we are all being played like a fiddle. I agree with you but It's not just Islamic extremists that people have a problem with. Even without the extremists, people just aren't happy sharing their country, that they love, with people who cheapen the place, disrespect it and make parts of it places you don't even like to drive through let alone live in. Do you mean any city center on a saturday night ? The thing is western culture is all but dead, the stalwarts of christian values, marriage, family, community, work ethic all being eroded. without christianity there can be no west as we know it, end of. What will it be replaced with, X factor ? You cant blame immagrants for all that, as i said, you reap what you sow. jmo. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
scothunter 12,609 Posted April 23, 2012 Report Share Posted April 23, 2012 Say or word it anyway you like. It's way past religion IMO its white against non white They distrust us and we distrust them. You can argue to the cows come home of who's to blame or orchestrated it, but simple fact is they don't respect our values and even less respect towards our authorities. No shy at taking our cash though and pissing over our customs. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
PlasticJock 539 Posted April 23, 2012 Report Share Posted April 23, 2012 Say or word it anyway you like. It's way past religion IMO its white against non white They distrust us and we distrust them. You can argue to the cows come home of who's to blame or orchestrated it, but simple fact is they don't respect our values and even less respect towards our authorities. No shy at taking our cash though and pissing over our customs. Not to mention, call me naive, dragging a lot of our society with them. White kids mincing about with their jeans round their arse, kissing their teeth and not giving a s**t. Now, is that inevitable or do the 'gangsters' (wanksters) have a part to play in the ridiculous notion that acting like them makes you a man? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
paulus 26 Posted April 23, 2012 Report Share Posted April 23, 2012 Say or word it anyway you like. It's way past religion IMO its white against non white They distrust us and we distrust them. You can argue to the cows come home of who's to blame or orchestrated it, but simple fact is they don't respect our values and even less respect towards our authorities. No shy at taking our cash though and pissing over our customs. strange thing is they hate us but seem to want to come here above anywhere else Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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