2.8 guy 403 Posted April 22, 2012 Report Share Posted April 22, 2012 (edited) This is my half cross she was out of two half crosses (dixon) lines, I found her to be exsplosive on power and speed from stand still to top speed and in any size field would catch rabbits with no effort the dog in the pic with her is a collie greyhound with mostly greyhound i had this line for many a year (d james) and when this bitch came along i saw something els the collie would be alot faster but the acd s strike and the ability to catch in comparison was out of this world, her catch rate was nearly 100% for years (but i run her clever ) she was a great asset to have but they all dont make the grade and ive heard of bad uns too but would chance one again http://s1166.photobu...redriverpic.jpg Edited April 22, 2012 by 2.8 guy 1 Quote Link to post
caterpiller 10 Posted April 22, 2012 Report Share Posted April 22, 2012 What are the first crosses like pace wise? are they plenty quick enough for rabbits on big open fields or are they better suited to smaller fields? also what are they like around cover? I can only go off my own Dog but he is really sharp over the 1st 25-30yards which is ideal for Ferreting. Lamping wise???? a Rabbit on short grass has him well beaten....he just hasnt got the pace. I Ferret a Resevoir Full of Gorse/Whin and Thick Blackthorn Clumps and the Dog is lethal in this situation.....he tucks himself in tight and blends in like a Speckled Camellian and hits the Bunnies before they relise whats happening. He is also very handy around the Longnets.....he will grab his Rabbit but he will also herd/push his Rabbit to the Net if it has had to much start on him. Fireman may put up some more pics of him Ferreting in different situations. 1 Quote Link to post
redcharge 378 Posted April 22, 2012 Report Share Posted April 22, 2012 What are the first crosses like pace wise? are they plenty quick enough for rabbits on big open fields or are they better suited to smaller fields? also what are they like around cover? I can only go off my own Dog but he is really sharp over the 1st 25-30yards which is ideal for Ferreting. Lamping wise???? a Rabbit on short grass has him well beaten....he just hasnt got the pace. I Ferret a Resevoir Full of Gorse/Whin and Thick Blackthorn Clumps and the Dog is lethal in this situation.....he tucks himself in tight and blends in like a Speckled Camellian and hits the Bunnies before they relise whats happening. He is also very handy around the Longnets.....he will grab his Rabbit but he will also herd/push his Rabbit to the Net if it has had to much start on him. Fireman may put up some more pics of him Ferreting in different situations. Thanks mate good honest reply Quote Link to post
fireman 11,003 Posted April 22, 2012 Report Share Posted April 22, 2012 Talk about soft mouth,ever seen such a laid back retrieved rabbit? 7 Quote Link to post
redcharge 378 Posted April 23, 2012 Report Share Posted April 23, 2012 Anyone every tried a 1/4 bred? Quote Link to post
redcharge 378 Posted April 23, 2012 Report Share Posted April 23, 2012 Yep... What where they like? Quote Link to post
Maximus Ferret 2,063 Posted April 23, 2012 Report Share Posted April 23, 2012 Yep... :laugh: How was it then???? Quote Link to post
2.8 guy 403 Posted April 23, 2012 Report Share Posted April 23, 2012 A guy near me has one he didnt say it was owt special and i went to see it and it didnt look much either his exact words was just another lurcher, I spoke to the guy s dixon who bred the dogs and he said the best ones was the half cross whippets but dont know carnt comment on that Quote Link to post
BEARINATOR 2,872 Posted April 23, 2012 Report Share Posted April 23, 2012 More good pics Fireman , I love the look of him Quote Link to post
fireman 11,003 Posted April 23, 2012 Report Share Posted April 23, 2012 So CW what did you make of the 1/4 bred ACD x ?,i myself although they bring plenty of strong points to the lurcher do think it could very easly be lost if bred out to much so to speak. Quote Link to post
Phil Lloyd 10,738 Posted April 23, 2012 Report Share Posted April 23, 2012 Many thanks for your most interesting, and well presented enquiry Fireman... I always preferred, the first cross ACD,...I only hunt a few rabbits,..so they were more than adequate for that task... If my quarry was different,..my choice might be different....but it ain't Quote Link to post
bird 9,985 Posted April 23, 2012 Report Share Posted April 23, 2012 I always preferred, the first cross,...I only hunt a few rabbits,..so they were more than adequate for that task... The facts are,...many lurcher types lose a fair bit of the unique ingredient, that the initial hybridisation provided... This can usually be seen in the various herding based lurchers,.. and one is prompted to think, just what attribute has remained after more and more running dog, has been bred into the original mix.... The unkind might say that by doing so, one has produced little more than a b*****d greyhound, and simply gone around and around in circles, and disappeared up one's own arse.... I like a good half cross lurcher, put back to a similarly bred critter,...but I might well be wrong.... do you think , say a 1st x would be a lot differnt 2nd 1x regards that vigour brains, stamina, toughness, that you norm find a a 1st x, as the 2nd x as more running dog in it . if you know what i mean lol Quote Link to post
paulus 26 Posted April 23, 2012 Report Share Posted April 23, 2012 I always preferred, the first cross,...I only hunt a few rabbits,..so they were more than adequate for that task... The facts are,...many lurcher types lose a fair bit of the unique ingredient, that the initial hybridisation provided... This can usually be seen in the various herding based lurchers,.. and one is prompted to think, just what attribute has remained after more and more running dog, has been bred into the original mix.... The unkind might say that by doing so, one has produced little more than a b*****d greyhound, and simply gone around and around in circles, and disappeared up one's own arse.... I like a good half cross lurcher, put back to a similarly bred critter,...but I might well be wrong.... do you think , say a 1st x would be a lot differnt 2nd 1x regards that vigour brains, stamina, toughness, that you norm find a a 1st x, as the 2nd x as more running dog in it . if you know what i mean lol all depends how the marbles land with the genetics 1 Quote Link to post
BIG G wheton machine 1,594 Posted April 23, 2012 Report Share Posted April 23, 2012 a lot of my mates run 5/8 grey 3/8 bull seem to make a good allrounder but in my mind they can get heavy with muscle so get out turned a bit but they all seem to pull like a train whn walking on the lead and have balls to burn. have any of yas tried the 5/8 cross with the acd? Quote Link to post
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