spayed or de-bollock!

[Paul in North Lincs 15]

What are you veiws on having lurchers spayed??....any adverse effects in the field??

 

The reason I ask is currenly I own an Ess pup of round 6 months old, and a lurcher pup of 14 weeks...they live together outside in a large run / garage, which can't easily be split.......obviously at some point in the near future I am going to have the spaniel de-bollocked or the bitch spayed.....................can you imagine what would come out!!!!!!!

 

 

just undecided what to do for the best.................

 

 

I would be gratefull of your views on this gents...........................

 

Thanks

[Guest bob]

couldent you use a cage for when shes in season

[danielt 1]

What are you veiws on having lurchers spayed??....any adverse effects in the field??

 

The reason I ask is currenly I own an Ess pup of round 6 months old, and a lurcher pup of 14 weeks...they live together outside in a large run / garage, which can't easily be split.

Thanks

 

You say it cant easily be split, but its posible to be split, so you have your answer right there, split the run and it will be ready for when she's in season. It may be a bit of hassle, but hay isnt it better than having him / her to have the tubes snipped in the vets ?

[Guest Ditch_Shitter]

Had a bloke turn up at my gate only last week. I went out there and, within five minutes, we were both screaming, shouting, Fing and blinding as we smashed our hands down on the gate, spitting flames and going red faced in absolute fury.

 

Arguing? Hell no! It was simply that we'd met, as complete strangers, and within moments our mutual adoration of Dogs had sparked us off. My lot were bouncing around me, nuts dangling, as my JR bitch - currently in season - bounced around on her own long chain.

 

We were spitting nails about our absolute agreement that people who get Dogs and set to straight away with cutting bits off them, for their own bloody conveniance, simply don't want " Dogs ". They want something less than a Dog. It's like wanting money without the work involved in getting it.

 

In my day, if anyone suggested chopping bits off of a perfectly normal, natural, healthy Dog, they'd have been looked at as if they were completely insane and then promptly left friendless. Generations of folk have kept Dogs quite happily without resorting to this vile " Quick Fix " approach of denaturalisation by mutilation. It's a Peta driven idea from the last couple of decades and is now gaining ground through brain washing of the ignorant masses.

 

What next? Pull a Dogs teeth as soon as they come through? Save the inherrant risk of it ever biting anyone? Ye think That a ridiculous and stupid notion? Fine. And that's exactly how my people would have viewed the notion of mutilating an animal, just because ye couldn't be arsed to take the simple steps of confining a seasoning bitch and maintaning a modicum of control over ye healthy males.

 

If ye haven't the room in that run to seperate them, mate, just pop the male on a chain while she's throwing. Job sorted.

 

There; Now That wasn't exactly rocket science, was it? :whistle:

[Guest Haggler]

Had a bloke turn up at my gate only last week. I went out there and, within five minutes, we were both screaming, shouting, Fing and blinding as we smashed our hands down on the gate, spitting flames and going red faced in absolute fury.

 

Arguing? Hell no! It was simply that we'd met, as complete strangers, and within moments our mutual adoration of Dogs had sparked us off. My lot were bouncing around me, nuts dangling, as my JR bitch - currently in season - bounced around on her own long chain.

 

We were spitting nails about our absolute agreement that people who get Dogs and set to straight away with cutting bits off them, for their own bloody conveniance, simply don't want " Dogs ". They want something less than a Dog. It's like wanting money without the work involved in getting it.

 

In my day, if anyone suggested chopping bits off of a perfectly normal, natural, healthy Dog, they'd have been looked at as if they were completely insane and then promptly left friendless. Generations of folk have kept Dogs quite happily without resorting to this vile " Quick Fix " approach of denaturalisation by mutilation. It's a Peta driven idea from the last couple of decades and is now gaining ground through brain washing of the ignorant masses.

 

What next? Pull a Dogs teeth as soon as they come through? Save the inherrant risk of it ever biting anyone? Ye think That a ridiculous and stupid notion? Fine. And that's exactly how my people would have viewed the notion of mutilating an animal, just because ye couldn't be arsed to take the simple steps of confining a seasoning bitch and maintaning a modicum of control over ye healthy males.

 

If ye haven't the room in that run to seperate them, mate, just pop the male on a chain while she's throwing. Job sorted.

 

There; Now That wasn't exactly rocket science, was it? :whistle:

 

How do you really feel about spay and neuter ditch? Pray you never get prostate cancer, in many cases they have to take your hevos to save your life !

 

Haggler

[Wilky 0]

If you have to have it done one way or the other it'll have to be dependant on your own personal circumstances and just what it is you do and how hard you work your dogs.

 

Me personally, if I absolutely had to, I'd have the spaniels nuts done on the proviso that he would have to make something special of a dog to breed from, as there are plenty of good working/FTC dogs out there already, of which breeding may be the least of your priorities.

 

On the other hand if your lurcher bitch makes the grade and by that I mean in YOUR eyes, doing what YOU want her to do, you may at some point consider a pup out of her for yourself, and will you regret it miserably if you have her spayed. Just my opinion, at the end of the day it's up to you, not an easy choice.

[Guest MOLLY]

We were spitting nails about our absolute agreement that people who get Dogs and set to straight away with cutting bits off them, for their own bloody conveniance, simply don't want " Dogs ". They want something less than a Dog.

Sorry DS but......utter crap. And i am offended by it!

My dogs were done to LENGTHEN their lives, because my dogs mean more to me than anything.

The dogs dont know they cannot have pups, they are blissfully unaware. And Khan does'nt have to spend half his life in a cage to keep away from 4 bitches coming into season at various times.

Convenient...yes, it is convenient for me, and also for the bitches and the dog, all living in harmony together.

 

Paul in North Lincs.....It has absolutley no adverse effects for a bitch other than you cannot reverse it, so can never breed from her. It does however have the positives of.....can work all year round. Will never get ovarian cancer, a much lesser chance of mammory cancer. And you are never restricted taking your dog anywhere because she came into season.

MOLL.

[Guest Lurcherbitch]

We were spitting nails about our absolute agreement that people who get Dogs and set to straight away with cutting bits off them, for their own bloody conveniance, simply don't want " Dogs ". They want something less than a Dog.

Sorry DS but......utter crap. And i am offended by it!

My dogs were done to LENGTHEN their lives, because my dogs mean more to me than anything.

The dogs dont know they cannot have pups, they are blissfully unaware. And Khan does'nt have to spend half his life in a cage to keep away from 4 bitches coming into season at various times.

Convenient...yes, it is convenient for me, and also for the bitches and the dog, all living in harmony together.

 

Paul in North Lincs.....It has absolutley no adverse effects for a bitch other than you cannot reverse it, so can never breed from her. It does however have the positives of.....can work all year round. Will never get ovarian cancer, a much lesser chance of mammory cancer. And you are never restricted taking your dog anywhere because she came into season.

MOLL.

 

Moll

Thank god there is someone as experianced as you working neuterd lurchers and terriers.

 

Ditch.......sorry mate but this time you really have reached the talking bullshit mark

[MATTI 34]

If you already had the ESS of 6mth old why buy a lurcher of the same sex if you had no way of keeping apart when you need to?? Not wanting to cause an arguement but a little forthought could of been your answer,

[Guest Ditch_Shitter]

If ye haven't the room in that run to seperate them, mate, just pop the male on a chain while she's throwing. Job sorted.

 

There; Now That wasn't exactly rocket science, was it? :whistle:

 

 

 

Sorry DS but......utter crap. And i am offended by it!

 

MOLL.

 

 

 

Ditch.......sorry mate but this time you really have reached the talking bullshit mark

 

 

 

Oooooh, I say, girls! Todays colour of nail varnish is Definately Blood Red, eh?

 

 

Now; Care to point out where I'm talking " Crap " and " Bullshit "? Just in the interests of a slightly more scientific discussion.

[Guest Lurcherbitch]

 

If ye haven't the room in that run to seperate them, mate, just pop the male on a chain while she's throwing. Job sorted.

 

There; Now That wasn't exactly rocket science, was it? :whistle:

 

 

 

Sorry DS but......utter crap. And i am offended by it!

 

MOLL.

 

 

 

Ditch.......sorry mate but this time you really have reached the talking bullshit mark

 

 

 

Oooooh, I say, girls! Todays colour of nail varnish is Definately Blood Red, eh?

 

 

Now; Care to point out where I'm talking " Crap " and " Bullshit "? Just in the interests of a slightly more scientific discussion.

 

next? Pull a Dogs teeth as soon as they come through? Save the inherrant risk of it ever biting anyone? Ye think That a ridiculous and stupid notion? Fine. And that's exactly how my people would have viewed the notion of mutilating an animal, just because ye couldn't be arsed to take the simple steps of confining a seasoning bitch and maintaning a modicum of control over ye healthy males.

 

 

As for sientific chat........ditch.....i deal in dogs lives....not proving a well earned point.

[Guest JDF]

I am going to have the spaniel de-bollocked or the bitch spayed.....................can you imagine what would come out!!!!!!!

the outcome was being sold for £350 in the cmw a while back

[Guest Ditch_Shitter]

As for sientific chat........ditch.....i deal in dogs lives....not proving a well earned point.

 

 

I see. So ye choose to publicly insult and defame me, then offer as your 'reasoning', basicly, that 'Ye said so'.

 

I'm a " Bullshitter ". Because You said so. End of.

 

Uh huh.

 

 

 

 

Don't want to phone a friend ....?

[Guest MOLLY]

Now; Care to point out where I'm talking " Crap " and " Bullshit "? Just in the interests of a slightly more scientific discussion.

Try the rest of your post DS. I quoted the part i found to be 'crap & bullshit' the part you have chosen to quote was the only bit which made any sense. The rest was nonsence or OTT, as i prefer to call it

MOLL.

[Paul in North Lincs 15]

If you already had the ESS of 6mth old why buy a lurcher of the same sex if you had no way of keeping apart when you need to?? Not wanting to cause an arguement but a little forthought could of been your answer,

 

 

To be honest.....the opportunity presented itself to aqcuire a pup from what I know to be quality working stock, and they were all bitches.................oh...and before someone decides to start a debate about what is quality stock and what is not....may I state that that is for me to determine.....end of

 

Cleary some differing views on this subject, all of which I appreciate........I think for now I will perhaps find away of splitting them when the time is right, and see how each progess in their own right.......I will review this a later date..

 

thanks for your opinions ladies and gents