Liniment

[taffey 1,315]

MR muscle embrocation fluid very good i put mine in a spray bottle and spray on dog easier than trying to pour it into your hands or onto a cloth etc got mine from mole valley farmers in devon for 8 notes atb taffey

[Annmarie09 5]

Just don't get any radiol in your eyes, I got Bone Radiol in mine once, bloody hurt! If the dog's actually bruised, arnica is very good.

[sowhat 1,572]

Just don't get any radiol in your eyes, I got Bone Radiol in mine once, bloody hurt! If the dog's actually bruised, arnica is very good.

 

or arnica tablets

Try Trainers choice for the dogs muscles

[sandymere 8,263]

Some small evidence that arnica rubs may have an effect on bruising but not much, I’ve used it myself for years but it’s better to save it for when there’s a bruise or strain rather than as an everyday rub. Not available as a tablet or to be taken orally as it’s a bit poisonous.

Ps it will be ok to use homeopathic pills as they don’t actually contain any arnica, just sugar pills lol.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arnica

[paulus 26]

ive got some mason`s dog oil somewhere it says for massaging, it only contains rape oil and petrolium jelly so you might as well use vasoline and add rape oil

[romany52 313]

When and why would you use liniment on a dog ?

[Sirius 1,391]

The muscle radial is great stuff to use for massage.

Arnica, Weleda massage Oil is great as our the gels, can be diffiicult to apply on rough coated dogs though, I also use the tablets and had a good effects.

Edited April 23, 2012 by Sirius

[Moll. 1,770]

When and why would you use liniment on a dog ?

 

Warm up the muscles prior to running.

To give heat to aid recovery.

[tote 856]

Any advice on Liniment to use when massaging a dogs muscles???

 

Cheers,

 

Jai.

 

Depends what you want it for Jai, if it's just for a general rub/massage something like curacho would do. If your

looking for something to treat a muscle injury iodised oil or M-R muscle embrocation.

 

http://www.animalmedicationdirect.co.uk/radiol-m-r-muscle-embrocation-500ml-pr-17.html

 

http://www.premarketpets.co.uk/100340/info.php?p=2&pid=2733151&ack=9

[tote 856]

When and why would you use liniment on a dog ?

 

Massaging creates heat which in turn increases blood flow which speeds up the healing process.

[romany52 313]

The actual massage may well be of benifit especially after exercise to aid recovery, but embrocation works by irritating the skin, thus increasing blood flow to the skin. Now this blood comes straight to the skin from other parts of the body, it does nothing to increase heat or blood flow to the muscle infact it may even take blood away from the muscle to supply the extra blood to the skin. All that embrocation does in humans is create a placebo effect, you can't create a placebo effect in dogs.

[romany52 313]

I might add that with a dog, a hunting dog at that, with a nose far more powerful than ours, the smell of embrocation must be overwhelming and would last on the dog for weeks if not months, overpowering the more subtle smell of game.

[skycat 6,174]

Interesting point there: just how far do topical painkillers and liniments reach into the subcutaneous tissue? I've always been told by both human and canine physios that it is the actual massage which helps, not the liniment or whatever, though I do use Arnica Masage Lotion on damaged muscles in dogs as well as myself. Not having done a scientific study (could you really do a scientific study on dogs?) I can't say hand on heart that I've noticed a big difference between the reaction of the dog massaged with a liniment compared to a no product massage. The physio who treats my shoulder and back problems tells me that the liniment or oil is only used to facilitate massage, reducing skin drag on human skin, so if the extra relief I feel when using stuff on myself is only due to the placebo effect, then that's fine by me: it works!

[sandymere 8,263]

I’d agree with Skycat that in the majority of cases the massage rather than the rub make the person or dog feel better but for joints close to the surface like wrist etc there is some evidence for good effect in 6 or 7 out of 10 patients. Since the concentration in the blood are much lower than one would get with oral administration then there is a reduced risk of side effects if used for short periods.

Cochrane review linked

http://summaries.cochrane.org/CD007402/topical-non-steroidal-anti-inflammatory-drugs-nsaids-for-acute-pain-in-adults

[Sirius 1,391]

Good massage is the a great benefit I am sure, and doing it correctly is what its all about, I think the rub or oil just helps to make things easier and some may have a positive effect.

It's still a pain to use a oil based rub on a hairy dog.

Edited April 23, 2012 by Sirius