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[Waz 4,268]

What went wrong?

 

Badgers could get shifted on legally by a few fellas, some spades and a terrier or 2. Decades later and the public are being told to be suspicious of any men in the countryside with a terrier and maybe a lurcher.

 

What happens in the UK is almost now unbelievable to me, badger numbers are unnaturally high due to their protective status, Not long goes past without a newspaper report of badger tb, badgers digging up gardens etc. Alas also reports of 'gangs' of men with dogs getting caught killing badgers. This surely is an element of what happens when something is made illegal, no? The simplest thing the people in charge of the land and the law is they give licenses out to control badgers. Im kidding myself its never gonna happen, & while the badger is 99.99% uncontrable due to protection and non predation then there will probably be the 'gangs' of men with dogs getting thereselves in bother.

 

(This is outside of the UK). Just recent I was asked/invited out for a bit of out of season digging as part of a thinning out/cull. Official paperwork was given to do it as badger numbers had gotten out of hand. The officials contacted the digging clubs to get together.

 

 

Edited April 10, 2012 by GD Waz

[Buch 145]

What went wrong?

 

Badgers could get shifted on legally by a few fellas, some spades and a terrier or 2. Decades later and the public are being told to be suspicious of any men in the countryside with a terrier and maybe a lurcher.

 

What happens in the UK is almost now unbelievable to me, badger numbers are unnaturally high due to their protective status, Not long goes past without a newspaper report of badger tb, badgers digging up gardens etc. Alas also reports of 'gangs' of men with dogs getting caught killing badgers. This surely is an element of what happens when something is made illegal, no? The simplest thing the people in charge of the land and the law is they give licenses out to control badgers. Im kidding myself its never gonna happen, & while the badger is 99.99% uncontrable due to protection and non predation then there will probably be the 'gangs' of men with dogs getting thereselves in bother.

 

(This is outside of the UK). Just recent I was asked/invited out for a bit of out of season digging as part of a thinning out/cull. Official paperwork was given to do it as badger numbers had gotten out of hand. The officials contacted the digging clubs to get together.

 

 

 

I agree with everything you said, and whats more why is it ok and humane to dig a fox but not a badger?

[Waz 4,268]

What went wrong?

 

Badgers could get shifted on legally by a few fellas, some spades and a terrier or 2. Decades later and the public are being told to be suspicious of any men in the countryside with a terrier and maybe a lurcher.

 

What happens in the UK is almost now unbelievable to me, badger numbers are unnaturally high due to their protective status, Not long goes past without a newspaper report of badger tb, badgers digging up gardens etc. Alas also reports of 'gangs' of men with dogs getting caught killing badgers. This surely is an element of what happens when something is made illegal, no? The simplest thing the people in charge of the land and the law is they give licenses out to control badgers. Im kidding myself its never gonna happen, & while the badger is 99.99% uncontrable due to protection and non predation then there will probably be the 'gangs' of men with dogs getting thereselves in bother.

 

(This is outside of the UK). Just recent I was asked/invited out for a bit of out of season digging as part of a thinning out/cull. Official paperwork was given to do it as badger numbers had gotten out of hand. The officials contacted the digging clubs to get together.

 

 

 

I agree with everything you said, and whats more why is it ok and humane to dig a fox but not a badger?

 

If you kill an animal for its meat then youd do it the cleanest and humane way available to you.

I cant think of a cleaner way to account for badger or fox than terrier work. Works very similar to a cage trap, except the terrier contains the quarry instead of a cage mesh.

[stop.end 4,082]

Stop End I'm not sure I understand you.

Are you saying that the majority of decent terrier folk are on here ?

Rubbish.

lol hellll nooo. liam quite the opposite actually ...

[matthews 88 77]

most of the decent terrier men have no time for sites like this or proply to old to use a computer

[Barrie 1,325]

What went wrong?

 

Badgers could get shifted on legally by a few fellas, some spades and a terrier or 2. Decades later and the public are being told to be suspicious of any men in the countryside with a terrier and maybe a lurcher.

 

Exactly what went wrong was…. a tiny unrepresentative minority of mindless individuals treated their quarry with a complete lack of respect and did so in a very public manner. They created an image of badger digging which was impossible for anyone to defend and gave our opponents all the ammunition they needed to back up their case for a ban.

 

The end result was inevitable and it was everyone else who was left to suffer and to clean up the mess they left behind. Not least the present badger population which is now riddled with a disease commonly associated with overpopulation.

 

There’s a lesson to be learnt from all of this, but only time will tell if it has….. or whether instead we simply see history repeat itself further down the line.

 

In most other European countries and in other places around the world, hunting is carried out under license and in accordance with properly laid down rules and codes of conduct. If anyone breaks the rules then they’re the ones who lose the right to hunt rather than everyone else.

 

Sadly that’s not the case here in the UK and personally I very much wish it was. It would soon separate the chaff from the wheat and I believe give hunting a far more secure long term future.

 

J.M.H.O. - Barrie

Edited April 10, 2012 by Barrie

[spindolero 1,111]

question then, has the bull x and its abilities had a negative side affect on digging?

[poacher3161 1,766]

question then, has the bull x and its abilities had a negative side affect on digging?

Going on wat some some of the old school terriermen say i would say so.

[MUDD 374]

question then, has the bull x and its abilities had a negative side affect on digging?

Yes when you view videos on the news of assholes using them illegally, again and again.

[gonetoearth 5,144]

Barrie as allways. Brings reality to the discussion , reputation is every thing , cv at the workplace , in getting permission to shoot etc , so just think what damage the likes of the sensationerlist Cuntryfile has done people with no previous knowledge or interest in terriers or lurches sat and watched a programme they will take as gospel , the public are gullible cravan is part of the old school BBC news round etc damage has been done how bad you will see over the coming months , young lads going rabbiting , ratting e will now be reported as BB by old women and trouble chases , , The way forward is thru organisation bonfide people with respect and who are respected, the RSPCA have the ear of the police and the GOVERMENT when in reality they have been taken over by lacs , why do the police use them because it's the easy option they are their so called experts , every member of the arsepca is an anti they are groomed , the abuse of their power is shocking imagine any other charity knocking on door in uniform with an ID card that means nothing and asking to see your yard etc most would laugh them down the street but the false reputation of the arsepca has been built up over years even on here I read let them in its not worth the hassle etc , THis has to stop , the alliance and basc do care about legal terrier and dog men but it's not them causing the problems , whether we like it or not the days of wandering and mooching without permission are gone , join NWTF and FMWTC get written permission get involved young lads coming into the are pursuits need guidance turn your back am all right jack has brought us to this situation The shooting fraternity and the hunting fraternity have well organised PR it's time are own who are equally knowledgeable and suited to the task to be given the opportunity but they need the backing and the confidencec to do so we need to be seen by the public as responsible , we provide a service to agriculture and controll vermin , Between them the fought and kept tail docking for working breeds , kept terrier work legal , these are stepping stones to recognition by the GOVERMENT Get behing the NWTF and all the affiliated clubs GTE

[fat man 4,741]

Why should a bullx have a negative affect on diging no more than any other breed of lurcher,any lurcher will do the same thing if let and to single out the bullx is wrong.Its noting to do with the dogs its all to do with the wankers on the other end of the dogs lead,jmho.

[LUMPHAMMER 324]

Im just a lying messer who talks utter shite.got fcuk all to worry about

[spindolero 1,111]

Why should a bullx have a negative affect on diging no more than any other breed of lurcher,any lurcher will do the same thing if let and to single out the bullx is wrong.Its noting to do with the dogs its all to do with the wankers on the other end of the dogs lead,jmho.

good point but its those same wankers that seem attracted to bull x,

[lurcher330 2,301]

Im just a lying messer who talks utter shite.got fcuk all to worry about

me too

[stop.end 4,082]

Why should a bullx have a negative affect on diging no more than any other breed of lurcher,any lurcher will do the same thing if let and to single out the bullx is wrong.Its noting to do with the dogs its all to do with the wankers on the other end of the dogs lead,jmho.

everbody has there own opinion... shall we just leave it at that....