reddawn 2,173 Posted April 11, 2012 Report Share Posted April 11, 2012 they cant keep the dogs, even if you are found guilty they need to be signed over, sure they may not be in any hurry to fetch them back, but they cannot keep em without your say so, no matter who they think they are, its the law If charges are brought and proved then the court decides what happens to the dogs. well my mate was found guilty an still had to sign his over mate Quote Link to post
Tuzo 251 Posted April 11, 2012 Report Share Posted April 11, 2012 are they allowed to keep them whilst investigation occurs? when i got to answer bail they should either charge me or not? does this mean they have to give me them back then? They can do 1 of 3 things, re-bail you, charge you or NFA. If you are charged they may hold onto the dogs as evidence OR if the case doesn't involve the dogs then they should be returned.........unfortunately the RSPCA are seen as experts by most courts and they are often allowed to do as they please. Quote Link to post
Tuzo 251 Posted April 11, 2012 Report Share Posted April 11, 2012 they cant keep the dogs, even if you are found guilty they need to be signed over, sure they may not be in any hurry to fetch them back, but they cannot keep em without your say so, no matter who they think they are, its the law If charges are brought and proved then the court decides what happens to the dogs. well my mate was found guilty an still had to sign his over mate Well he can't have been found guilty of cruelty or neglect. Quote Link to post
reddawn 2,173 Posted April 11, 2012 Report Share Posted April 11, 2012 they cant keep the dogs, even if you are found guilty they need to be signed over, sure they may not be in any hurry to fetch them back, but they cannot keep em without your say so, no matter who they think they are, its the law If charges are brought and proved then the court decides what happens to the dogs. well my mate was found guilty an still had to sign his over mate Well he can't have been found guilty of cruelty or neglect. listen mate, i aint here to argue with ye, we were both found guilty, an he was told to ether sign dogs over, or take it to appeal, he declined the appeal an signed his dog over, i followed clives instruction an got my conviction overturned in crown court, an thats the truth Quote Link to post
Tuzo 251 Posted April 11, 2012 Report Share Posted April 11, 2012 they cant keep the dogs, even if you are found guilty they need to be signed over, sure they may not be in any hurry to fetch them back, but they cannot keep em without your say so, no matter who they think they are, its the law If charges are brought and proved then the court decides what happens to the dogs. well my mate was found guilty an still had to sign his over mate Well he can't have been found guilty of cruelty or neglect. listen mate, i aint here to argue with ye, we were both found guilty, an he was told to ether sign dogs over, or take it to appeal, he declined the appeal an signed his dog over, i followed clives instruction an got my conviction overturned in crown court, an thats the truth And I'm not here to argue, the guy needs help ................... but I'l put pennies to pigshit the court decides what happens to the dogs if they are classed as evidence. Quote Link to post
Guest D.F.K Posted April 11, 2012 Report Share Posted April 11, 2012 they cant keep the dogs, even if you are found guilty they need to be signed over, sure they may not be in any hurry to fetch them back, but they cannot keep em without your say so, no matter who they think they are, its the law If charges are brought and proved then the court decides what happens to the dogs. well my mate was found guilty an still had to sign his over mate Well he can't have been found guilty of cruelty or neglect. listen mate, i aint here to argue with ye, we were both found guilty, an he was told to ether sign dogs over, or take it to appeal, he declined the appeal an signed his dog over, i followed clives instruction an got my conviction overturned in crown court, an thats the truth what was your case? Quote Link to post
reddawn 2,173 Posted April 11, 2012 Report Share Posted April 11, 2012 they cant keep the dogs, even if you are found guilty they need to be signed over, sure they may not be in any hurry to fetch them back, but they cannot keep em without your say so, no matter who they think they are, its the law If charges are brought and proved then the court decides what happens to the dogs. well my mate was found guilty an still had to sign his over mate Well he can't have been found guilty of cruelty or neglect. listen mate, i aint here to argue with ye, we were both found guilty, an he was told to ether sign dogs over, or take it to appeal, he declined the appeal an signed his dog over, i followed clives instruction an got my conviction overturned in crown court, an thats the truth And I'm not here to argue, the guy needs help ................... but I'l put pennies to pigshit the court decides what happens to the dogs if they are classed as evidence. well im only tellin the guy what happend to us, at court Quote Link to post
Tuzo 251 Posted April 11, 2012 Report Share Posted April 11, 2012 well im only tellin the guy what happend to us, at court Were the dogs classed as evidence ? Were you found guilty of neglect or cruelty ? Quote Link to post
reddawn 2,173 Posted April 11, 2012 Report Share Posted April 11, 2012 well im only tellin the guy what happend to us, at court Were the dogs classed as evidence ? Were you found guilty of neglect or cruelty ? the dog was in rspca care after a vet contacted them, an was there until it was signed over, the dog was evidence an aye a guilty verdict was passed, but was over turned at appeal Quote Link to post
whisperingeye 27 Posted April 11, 2012 Report Share Posted April 11, 2012 do i really need a specialist in the feild? ill speak to clive and ask him for his adivce see if he suggests a normal barrister, im still really confused and not quite sure what to do, never been arrested before... its all a nightmare to be honest.... look listen please dont bother with clive he will take your money like any other mod day dick turpin go straight to the best solicitor and strike while the iron is hot 1 Quote Link to post
Tuzo 251 Posted April 11, 2012 Report Share Posted April 11, 2012 do i really need a specialist in the feild? ill speak to clive and ask him for his adivce see if he suggests a normal barrister, im still really confused and not quite sure what to do, never been arrested before... its all a nightmare to be honest.... look listen please dont bother with clive he will take your money like any other mod day dick turpin go straight to the best solicitor and strike while the iron is hot I'd agree with that, find a criminal solicitor that is used to finding holes in statements and reports. Clive is £1000 a day..............ok if your on LA. He will also make sure his accomplices get a cut too, the lady vet who is now a barrister and the badger expert :yes: Quote Link to post
Guest D.F.K Posted April 11, 2012 Report Share Posted April 11, 2012 does clive not exept legal aid? Quote Link to post
reddawn 2,173 Posted April 11, 2012 Report Share Posted April 11, 2012 does clive not exept legal aid? aye mate he does Quote Link to post
pbrookes 450 Posted April 11, 2012 Report Share Posted April 11, 2012 do i really need a specialist in the feild? ill speak to clive and ask him for his adivce see if he suggests a normal barrister, im still really confused and not quite sure what to do, never been arrested before... its all a nightmare to be honest.... look listen please dont bother with clive he will take your money like any other mod day dick turpin go straight to the best solicitor and strike while the iron is hot Try and get the number for Granville rooley in Bradford he is the best barrister for the job. He hates the RSPCA with a passion. Don't want to put a dampener on things but when they took mine Granville got me to see my dogs within a week of them being taken. They were in kennels 250 mile away and the night before I was due to go they put them to sleep. They said their wounds were too bad which was bull shit. But that was on the 90s before we had camera phones and computers etc. Quote Link to post
whisperingeye 27 Posted April 11, 2012 Report Share Posted April 11, 2012 SITTING ON THE INTERNET WONT GET YOUR DOGS BACK,LIKE I SAID STRIKE WHILE THE IRONS HOT,MOST WILL TAKE LEGAL AID,CLIVE WILL BUT ITS ALL ABOUT MONEY NOW WITH HIM HES NOT HUNGARY ANY MORE HE LIKES TO DO DEALS , Quote Link to post
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