I.W.T.F. (CLUB) and clubs....

[events co-ordinator 353]

WEEGIES RULE

[sammcc 229]

I think we all need to take a step back ,stop shouting over the top of each other and learn from each other not attack our selves.

I have seen the paper that has been drafted up by stopend,(I think you should change your name jmo) and it covers pretty much every thing that needs covering and if terrier men adhere to it our image will be vastly improved.i also think that conducting ourselves in a proper manor whether it be in public or on a network is of equal importance,let's not get all defensive when someone disagrees with your personal opinion try to resolve the matter like the adults we are supposed to be.

The sexual references that are used all to often should be refrained from as there are young people and women that use this site and it's not a great example to be setting or giving others to use against us.

I know the idea of this federation is for the benefit of the true terrier man/woman but I have stood in London on 2 occasions with men women and children from hunting ,farming,showing,backgrounds and every one of them had the sole aim of protecting hunting with dogs,yes the federation could be restricted to true terrier men but the membership numbers will be low and a politician looking at a few lost votes or a lot of lost votes will think twice.

If the membership is not so restrictive surely this will be for the better,also the show terrier men/women mingle with a far larger section of the public than the man in the field will ever meet and if they can attend a stall promoting the federation at these many shows that's a added bonus.

I know not every one will agree with what I have wrote and that's fine ,voice your disagreement and let's discuss it and see if there is a middle ground were we can agree.

Yours in sport.sam mcc.

[Tayto 52]

when your out with suckling calves and farming the land...im doing the job you have noo time for..which is pest control of foxes with terriers for the very men you claim to represent.... i represent these farmers too... thats why i carry out a fast efficent pest control for them for free.. i back fill and leave the enviroment in the very same way it was before i started.... and nothing but upmost respect for the land i hunt or the farmer that has granted me permission or the foxes that i am asked to control.... i would guess thats why i am asked back many many times and always have good raport with any of the farmers yards i pull into ask anybody who has hunted with me... i used to be a slaughterman now i chance my arm as a joiner ......so the next time your sat in your big john deere ploughing...or suckling calves which you probably let the calves suck you....ooopppzzz thinking out loud or lifting spuds.... think of us townies.... out doing the job you have no time for....

Hey partyboy,its not all about suckling calves lol.

Are you fit for a terrier club? Are you near solid?

A club across the back of the head you need.

Saying that!I would like to see someone with a few brain cells with a club.

[neil cooney 10,416]

when your out with suckling calves and farming the land...im doing the job you have noo time for..which is pest control of foxes with terriers for the very men you claim to represent.... i represent these farmers too... thats why i carry out a fast efficent pest control for them for free.. i back fill and leave the enviroment in the very same way it was before i started.... and nothing but upmost respect for the land i hunt or the farmer that has granted me permission or the foxes that i am asked to control.... i would guess thats why i am asked back many many times and always have good raport with any of the farmers yards i pull into ask anybody who has hunted with me... i used to be a slaughterman now i chance my arm as a joiner ......so the next time your sat in your big john deere ploughing...or suckling calves which you probably let the calves suck you....ooopppzzz thinking out loud or lifting spuds.... think of us townies.... out doing the job you have no time for....

Stop End, your post was going OK untill you made references of having oral sex with a calf.

Is this the sort of posts made by someone who's trying to do something about saving an entire sport and way of life in a country?

I don't think so.

If you can't even write a serious post on a serious subject how do you think people will take you serious?

[Carraghs Gem 1,675]

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Edited April 20, 2012 by Carraghs Gem

[tillearthdouspart 100]

when your out with suckling calves and farming the land...im doing the job you have noo time for..which is pest control of foxes with terriers for the very men you claim to represent.... i represent these farmers too... thats why i carry out a fast efficent pest control for them for free.. i back fill and leave the enviroment in the very same way it was before i started.... and nothing but upmost respect for the land i hunt or the farmer that has granted me permission or the foxes that i am asked to control.... i would guess thats why i am asked back many many times and always have good raport with any of the farmers yards i pull into ask anybody who has hunted with me... i used to be a slaughterman now i chance my arm as a joiner ......so the next time your sat in your big john deere ploughing...or suckling calves which you probably let the calves suck you....ooopppzzz thinking out loud or lifting spuds.... think of us townies.... out doing the job you have no time for....

Stop End, your post was going OK untill you made references of having oral sex with a calf.

Is this the sort of posts made by someone who's trying to do something about saving an entire sport and way of life in a country?

I don't think so.

If you can't even write a serious post on a serious subject how do you think people will take you serious?

 

I dont think he ment actual oral sex, Suckling calf is another way of rearing calf without the mother.

And as for taking the guy seriously its no harm to have a personality a good sence of humor. We as digging men/women should have that and stop the bitterness towards eachother FFS.

Edited April 20, 2012 by tillearthdouspart

[neil cooney 10,416]

I'm aware of the ways of calves and weaning them.

IMO fighting for terrierwork is a serious issue and if a club is going to be formed to fight against any dangers it must be formed by a serious mature person.

When a club is being formed the first thing done is to hold a meeting.

At this meeting firstly a commitee is formed. Out of this commitee comes a chairperson, a secretary and a treasurer.

Then a name is decided upon. Then if a logo etc. is needed then this will be decided upon.

But as Stop End has already decided himself upon a few of these things then I presume he's going to run the club.

Is he mature enough to speak up on all our behalfs ?

Can he stand beside the hunting and shooting fraternitys and argue a cause for our sport as well as they can theirs ?

Personally I don't think so.

I would be very happy if he can prove me wrong.

[Barrie 1,325]

“I think we all need to take a step back, stop shouting over the top of each other and learn from each other not attack ourselves.”

 

Wise words Sammcc you’ve hit the nail right on the head there, along with the rest of your comments. Certainly the behavior of some and the manner in which they post does nothing but reinforce the image that our opponents would have everyone believe.

 

As it stands terrier work in N.I. is under very serious threat (have people’s memories of recent television programs really disappeared so quickly) and if anyone thinks it’s in for anything less than a very rough ride then they are kidding themselves.

 

This thread started out describing an attempt to do something about that situation. But as you read through and see the amount of time and effort spent on personal bickering and infighting, rather than constructive comment and suggestions, it doesn’t bode well for the future.

 

One thing that’s for certain is that if nothing at all is done (whatever it may be) and things do finish up going badly…. then those who’ve sat back and done nothing must take just as much responsibility for that as any anti or politician.

 

J.M.H.O. - Barrie

Edited April 20, 2012 by Barrie

[lurcher330 2,297]

Stopend hasn't elected himself as anything ,but he has got the ball rolling,

 

the logo is spot on and he has worked hard on getting him and lads in his area a club up and running,

he has sent me stuff through email and he knows he needs the help of people who are more clued up on things,thats why he started this thread not to bring it up as all his idea but to get more people on side which is what is needed ,

Neil i respect you as a well informed TerrierMan so get intouch with stopend through PM and start working with him on this ,many hands make light work but many many hands pulling separate ways will pull it apart very easy

[stop.end 4,079]

neil. or tayto or whoever.... i have started the ball rolling so when a meeting is set up at least there is something to look at a starting point if you like... i have no way intended to start a booklet and think this is the finished article... i would rather go to a meeting where a few people have something prepared so some people could get a look at what was being proposed... not land at a meeting where no one from ireland had prepared anything.....now if anyone is interested in this PM me PLEASE.... and i will show you what we have as a STARTING POINT.... i have no way intended to offend anyone by starting on a booklet...its just in recent weeks i have chose to spend my time drawing up a draught......

[top hat 127]

good going stop end on gettin the ball rolling ,i think it may be a good idea if neill would possibly get involved too as he has already been there from what i hear .Its propb going to be a long road ahead of yee but the rewards could possibly save terrier work in the end who knows ?

[marshman 7,757]

Good idea tophat I think Neils opinions would be welcomed at a meeting!

[dublin dezzy 1,023]

Would like to say fair play to stop end on having the initiative on putting together a starting plan and be the sounds of it that is all it is,this is not stop ends club,all he is doing is putting the foundations down and hopefully we as a club/unit can build from there,i cant understand why people would knock this as i dont see many others who are doing this myself included.There will have to be a meet to elect chairperson etc. and if people want to put there ideas forward etc well and good,i for one would like to be apart of this and if theres people with knowledge of this sort thing they should be getting involved even taking a back seat to guide this club in the right direction.

[stop.end 4,079]

 

Good idea tophat I think Neils opinions would be welcomed at a meeting!

Edited April 16, 2013 by stop.end

[stop.end 4,079]

I think we all need to take a step back ,stop shouting over the top of each other and learn from each other not attack our selves.

I have seen the paper that has been drafted up by stopend,(I think you should change your name jmo) and it covers pretty much every thing that needs covering and if terrier men adhere to it our image will be vastly improved.i also think that conducting ourselves in a proper manor whether it be in public or on a network is of equal importance,let's not get all defensive when someone disagrees with your personal opinion try to resolve the matter like the adults we are supposed to be.

The sexual references that are used all to often should be refrained from as there are young people and women that use this site and it's not a great example to be setting or giving others to use against us.

I know the idea of this federation is for the benefit of the true terrier man/woman but I have stood in London on 2 occasions with men women and children from hunting ,farming,showing,backgrounds and every one of them had the sole aim of protecting hunting with dogs,yes the federation could be restricted to true terrier men but the membership numbers will be low and a politician looking at a few lost votes or a lot of lost votes will think twice.

If the membership is not so restrictive surely this will be for the better,also the show terrier men/women mingle with a far larger section of the public than the man in the field will ever meet and if they can attend a stall promoting the federation at these many shows that's a added bonus.

I know not every one will agree with what I have wrote and that's fine ,voice your disagreement and let's discuss it and see if there is a middle ground were we can agree.

Yours in sport.sam mcc.

wise words...and noted on name change