p3d 879 Posted May 29, 2012 Report Share Posted May 29, 2012 (edited) IF despite all efforts this ridiculous bill goes through how do these "authorised officers" get appointed? Do they submit an application and get appointed via the courts? If so would it be possible to contest the appointment of biased "anti" officers? As another idea would it be worthwhile looking into getting countryside alliance ireland/working terrier club members etc to apply to become officers? Balance things out a little? 10, The Minister or Manager of a local authority may for the purposes of enforcing this Act or an EU measure, appoint in writing, such persons or classes of person as he or she considers appropriate to be authorised officers for the exercise of all or any of the functions under this Act. The Local Authority Managers would not be the sharpest chisel in the toolbox. The ANTI's (Green Party) would consider themselves the right Class of Person to control animal welfare. and the Green party, when they were in power did enough to plant their buddies into positions of influence. The "Authorisied Officer position" needs to be deleted from the bill totally. IMO It would be best if working dog kennels were controlled by a "Code of conduct" put in place be Working dog people. The greyhound people have such a system put in place. Edited May 29, 2012 by p3d 1 Quote Link to post
Corkonian 44 Posted May 29, 2012 Report Share Posted May 29, 2012 IF despite all efforts this ridiculous bill goes through how do these "authorised officers" get appointed? Do they submit an application and get appointed via the courts? If so would it be possible to contest the appointment of biased "anti" officers? As another idea would it be worthwhile looking into getting countryside alliance ireland/working terrier club members etc to apply to become officers? Balance things out a little? IMHO even one person without an understanding of hunting is too many to have as an "authorized officer" - this Act gives them way too much power - the last thing we need is a Southern Philpot trying to further their own careers by stitching up perfectly law abiding people. 1 Quote Link to post
stop.end 4,079 Posted May 29, 2012 Author Report Share Posted May 29, 2012 (edited) IF despite all efforts this ridiculous bill goes through how do these "authorised officers" get appointed? Do they submit an application and get appointed via the courts? If so would it be possible to contest the appointment of biased "anti" officers?As another idea would it be worthwhile looking into getting countryside alliance ireland/working terrier club members etc to apply to become officers? Balance things out a little? 10, The Minister or Manager of a local authority may for the purposes of enforcing this Act or an EU measure, appoint in writing, such persons or classes of person as he or she considers appropriate to be authorised officers for the exercise of all or any of the functions under this Act.The Local Authority Managers would not be the sharpest chisel in the toolbox.The ANTI's (Green Party) would consider themselves the right Class of Person to control animal welfare.and the Green party, when they were in power did enough to plant their buddies into positions of influence.The "Authorisied Officer position" needs to be deleted from the bill totally.IMO It would be best if working dog kennels were controlled by a "Code of conduct" put in place be Workin dog people.The greyhound people have such a system put in place. Edited April 16, 2013 by stop.end Quote Link to post
p3d 879 Posted May 29, 2012 Report Share Posted May 29, 2012 IF despite all efforts this ridiculous bill goes through how do these "authorised officers" get appointed? Do they submit an application and get appointed via the courts? If so would it be possible to contest the appointment of biased "anti" officers? As another idea would it be worthwhile looking into getting countryside alliance ireland/working terrier club members etc to apply to become officers? Balance things out a little? 10, The Minister or Manager of a local authority may for the purposes of enforcing this Act or an EU measure, appoint in writing, such persons or classes of person as he or she considers appropriate to be authorised officers for the exercise of all or any of the functions under this Act. The Local Authority Managers would not be the sharpest chisel in the toolbox. The ANTI's (Green Party) would consider themselves the right Class of Person to control animal welfare. and the Green party, when they were in power did enough to plant their buddies into positions of influence. The "Authorisied Officer position" needs to be deleted from the bill totally. IMO It would be best if working dog kennels were controlled by a "Code of conduct" put in place be Working dog people. The greyhound people have such a system put in place. there is a code of conduct in the submission is there not???? Yes there is, I hope it is used by the Minister to draft the bill. I believe that with the Greyhound kennels, before an inspection takes place, a Vet representing the Greyhound council has to be present. Quote Link to post
pattstaff 157 Posted May 30, 2012 Report Share Posted May 30, 2012 Without wishing to appear paranoid,this Bill seems to be another tightening of the noose on peoples privacy and right to live. Increasingly the Governments are taking away our rights one by one and invading peoples privacy too suit themselves as we grow more and more into a fully fledged police state.Life today in the British Isles means too be Monitored,Managed and Owned by our Governors who have no respect for the common man. Just a few weeks ago they tried to get a Bill passed so as they could look at your texts,emails and internet browsing 24hrs a day without a warrant.Sick of this Fxcking country. Quote Link to post
Corkman 944 Posted May 30, 2012 Report Share Posted May 30, 2012 Lads, I will find out today at what the Bill is at and the route it will take through the Dail. I got an email today from the current HAI chairman stating that ICABS were on to Simon Coveney about banning digging out. It about time all terriermen stood up for what they believe! Don't ever underestimate the strenght of the hunting lobby. If you haven't emailed or written a letter to Simon Coveney the Minister in charge of this bill who by the way in pro hunting then I suggest YOU do! The ANTIs are doing it. It appears to me at times they have more belief in their cause than WE do OURs....... Sad 4 Quote Link to post
Barrie 1,325 Posted May 30, 2012 Report Share Posted May 30, 2012 If anyone ever had any doubts about the need and urgency to set up an IWTF then these recent developments hopefully should convince them otherwise and vindicate everything which I and others have been saying for some considerable time now. J.M.H.O. - Barrie 6 Quote Link to post
just hunt 69 Posted May 30, 2012 Report Share Posted May 30, 2012 If anyone is in any doubt what the antis are about or they dont think a Working Terrier Club should be set up i sugest you log onto the ICABS website and have a look ,a good look Its time to take our heads out of the sand .... We cant leave it to anybody else to fight our battles 2 Quote Link to post
stop.end 4,079 Posted May 30, 2012 Author Report Share Posted May 30, 2012 (edited) l Edited April 16, 2013 by stop.end 9 Quote Link to post
stop.end 4,079 Posted May 30, 2012 Author Report Share Posted May 30, 2012 well glynn..hows it look buddy ?? Quote Link to post
top hat 127 Posted May 30, 2012 Report Share Posted May 30, 2012 excellent work stop end ,your very determined in what your doin lets just hope and pray all the the other country men ,fishermen,lurchermen ,terriermen etc will be the same , 2 Quote Link to post
Glyn..... 5,208 Posted May 30, 2012 Report Share Posted May 30, 2012 it looks really good mate i just hope there's loads marching along side you good luck Quote Link to post
stop.end 4,079 Posted May 30, 2012 Author Report Share Posted May 30, 2012 (edited) it looks really good mate i just hope there's loads marching along side you good luck Edited April 16, 2013 by stop.end Quote Link to post
top hat 127 Posted May 30, 2012 Report Share Posted May 30, 2012 iv just been on the phone a member of Sinn Fein that i know back home and i asked him where his party stands on the new bill being brought in over in ireland and suprise suprise he said il have to find out and get back to you .Do these politicians not listen at all FFS Quote Link to post
events co-ordinator 353 Posted May 30, 2012 Report Share Posted May 30, 2012 Stopend My old man has a few Ideas that worked for us could you phone him Thursday if your too busy I will try and do some posters and send you the templates Dad will phone Barrie cos I'm sure we still have the stuff somewhere. 1 Quote Link to post
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