breay 0 Posted May 7, 2007 Report Share Posted May 7, 2007 just beginning to feed my dogs on barf, butcher sold me some breasted out lamb cheap it has a high fat but have been told the fatty meats can cause pancreatitis is this true. can any one shed light on this Quote Link to post Share on other sites
socks 32,253 Posted May 7, 2007 Report Share Posted May 7, 2007 (edited) absolute nonsence mate dogs use fats as a source of energy ..... have a look at a sled dogs typical diet .... it consists of 32% protein ... 15% carbohydrates ... and 53% fat ..... if what you are saying is correct then there would be no huskys left in north america .......... i think what they mean is a diet as in burgers fried bacon etc ... bad fats ... which are completely different to animal fats mate ........... Edited May 7, 2007 by socks Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Ditch_Shitter Posted May 7, 2007 Report Share Posted May 7, 2007 My lot are fed probably 90% on raw Breast of Lamb, mate. I'll be first to admit it has a tendency go hang on the waist lines of my two older and less active Dogs. My young JR however eats about 75% as much as those two do. She hares around the bog, chasing christ knows what and burns it all off. Thus she's as tight and lean as a young mans erection. (Yes. I know. 'Laaverly' comparison, but it just came to mind. Get over it ) Fourth Dog I just seem to guage his needs better. He could lose a couple of pounds today - if I want him 'ripped'. But he's otherwise looking good. Frankly, if I so much as suspected for a split second that such a diet could be doing my Dogs any harm, I'd slash my wrists. Now; Opening a greasy sack of god only knows what in the form of little rust coloured pellets and trusting That not to do my Dogs accumulative and terminal harm? No F*cking Way! Simple test, I suppose, would be to put down a sample of each and just see what a Dog eats for preferance? I know what my lot would go for Quote Link to post Share on other sites
breay 0 Posted May 11, 2007 Author Report Share Posted May 11, 2007 tested today chiken al the way will not touch dried food. i have gauged it at a good hand full, (about 1/2 lb) of breasted out chiken for the terriers and 1 1/2 lb for the lurcher. fish, eggs, big meaty knuckle bones and veg as well . will see how it goes. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Guest ceredigion bull cross Posted May 11, 2007 Report Share Posted May 11, 2007 tested today chiken al the way will not touch dried food. i have gauged it at a good hand full, (about 1/2 lb) of breasted out chiken for the terriers and 1 1/2 lb for the lurcher. fish, eggs, big meaty knuckle bones and veg as well . will see how it goes. good on you mate , i been feeding raw instead of dried for about 6 weeks now and i am noticing a big difference in my dogs allready Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Ditch_Shitter Posted May 11, 2007 Report Share Posted May 11, 2007 Pound 'n half?! Bloody Hell! That sounds an Awfull lot of grub, mate! Is that one meal? Obviously, I don't know what sort or size of lurker ye have there. Nor am I 100% certain on what ye even mean by " Breasted out chicken ". But I have an english mastiff x rottie here, bloody great Dog. He probably weighs about 75 Ilbs and, just tonight, he had a chicken carcass for his dinner. I.e. The bit left after the butcher had took out the breasts, legs and, for all I know, wings. I didn't really think to look for wings. Just slung it in his bowl. No way was it a pound 'n half though. To give ye perhaps a better idea of how I do it; I'd reckon my 'average' sized Dogs get about enough meat / bone to just about fill a coffee mug. Give or take. Daily. Still got too much weight on a pair of them. Word about those big, beef shin bones; Have them cut up into four inch cuts, mate. It's the marrow inside the Dogs'll go after. Ucking that out with their tounges'll keep them happy. Then it'll make them shit a string of golf balls with no apparrent control of when. But such big bones are actually not the best thing to leave them with. They tend to keep them around and gnaw on them out of boredom. Actually liable to do their sparkling white teeth more potential harm than good, in the long run. Medium sized bones are essential to healthy teeth and gums. Big ones can just wear the enamel down Just keep experimenting and seeing how things go. There's no absolutes Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Guest ceredigion bull cross Posted May 11, 2007 Report Share Posted May 11, 2007 i've got a bull cross bitch pup here that eats 4 chicken carcass in one meal Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Ditch_Shitter Posted May 11, 2007 Report Share Posted May 11, 2007 Oh, aye. Pup's can put away an extraordinary ammount, mate. My little JR here eats as much as, if not more than, my 60Ilb plus bitch! Just scoffs the lot. Runs herself ragged. Doesn't put on an ounce of surplus body weight. Using it all to 'grow', see? Forgive me if I've missed or forgotten the point here, but I was working on the idea - in my last post - that Breay was talking about adult Dogs. Pups? Just heap it into them. Quite right. God knows what they do with it, but they do! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Simoman 110 Posted May 11, 2007 Report Share Posted May 11, 2007 absolute nonsence mate dogs use fats as a source of energy ..... have a look at a sled dogs typical diet .... it consists of 32% protein ... 15% carbohydrates ... and 53% fat ..... if what you are saying is correct then there would be no huskys left in north america .......... i think what they mean is a diet as in burgers fried bacon etc ... bad fats ... which are completely different to animal fats mate ........... socks is right, there are fats...and there are fats. Some good and some bad. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
breay 0 Posted May 12, 2007 Author Report Share Posted May 12, 2007 he is a greyhound/ suluki lurcher and he eats that in one sitting only a pup of 8 or so months. i goe on rouhgly fist size for a dogs stomach (probably) wrong. will see how they go and adjust accordingly. new to this type of diet so will be chopping and changing. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Meggy 0 Posted May 15, 2007 Report Share Posted May 15, 2007 Its caused by enzymes being prematurely secreted and so they attack the pancreas causeing cysts. There is a genetic element to it and fatty foods can trigger it. But i dont think its something to be worried about. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
breay 0 Posted May 21, 2007 Author Report Share Posted May 21, 2007 this new diet is great, lurcher pup 1 1/2 pound and terriers get half a pound, no more stinking kennel and twenty sloppyy poos a day, they look better, the only thing is that the are ferouis when fed it's as though they are starving and wof it down in twenty seconds. is this right. how do you tell if the lurcher got enough wieght on though, you can feel his ribs and spine dont get me wrong he doesnt look emaciated, his bowl of biscuits was about 3x as much as he gets now could it just be his stomach adjusting. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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