scothunter 12,609 Posted March 29, 2012 Report Share Posted March 29, 2012 Been happening for years mate. Its called getting your foot in the door so to speak. The Russians and us played that game for decades lol they linked al quaeda to the Taliban and they had an actual target to hit then. Up until then all they had was this bogey man bin laden from Saudi and they couldnt hit that. f**k the actual hijackers were from there and they did f**k all. Apart from the fact it's the oil and cash lifeline, going to war with them would be putting thier Jew friends in danger and in all prob going nuclear. Now if you wanna call that NWO then fair play to you bud, id call it politics and sailing pretty close to the wind. 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
PlasticJock 539 Posted March 29, 2012 Report Share Posted March 29, 2012 Been happening for years mate. Its called getting your foot in the door so to speak. The Russians and us played that game for decades lol they linked al quaeda to the Taliban and they had an actual target to hit then. Up until then all they had was this bogey man bin laden from Saudi and they couldnt hit that. f**k the actual hijackers were from there and they did f**k all. Apart from the fact it's the oil and cash lifeline, going to war with them would be putting thier Jew friends in danger and in all prob going nuclear. Now if you wanna call that NWO then fair play to you bud, id call it politics and sailing pretty close to the wind. Absolutely. You've hit it on the head, it is politics. But I think there are polititians who try and make a difference in the world. Then there are those who manipulate things to their own ends... This whole sinister, ultra secret cabal thing has been blown up... I think a few key players really have turned things around to suit them, often without the knowledge of their peers. YouTube 'project x'.... And that's a Lord, in the House of Lords, talking about something that everyone laughed at.... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
fazza123 517 Posted March 29, 2012 Author Report Share Posted March 29, 2012 Scot what's your opinion on identity cards, CCTV everywhere,DNA for any offence, chip in your passport, Facebook (which is the only thing on the planet that's free??) the list goes on. Do we have to accept all this as the future or are we being controlled like sheep. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
PlasticJock 539 Posted March 29, 2012 Report Share Posted March 29, 2012 Scot what's your opinion on identity cards, CCTV everywhere,DNA for any offence, chip in your passport, Facebook (which is the only thing on the planet that's free??) the list goes on. Do we have to accept all this as the future or are we being controlled like sheep. Fazza, register everything. Conform to everything. Don't say what you want. Don't question the official version of events. Don't take action ie strike, or you're a kunt. Listen to magistrates. They aren't legally qualified but do as they say anyway. Don't ask why magistrate/JP courts were registered on Dun and Bradstreet as trading corporations. It's a big chess board Quote Link to post Share on other sites
fazza123 517 Posted March 29, 2012 Author Report Share Posted March 29, 2012 That's the one PJ ! Lambs to slaughter. A mobile phone is now just a bug or sat nav to your whereabouts if they so choose. Where does it stop ? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
PlasticJock 539 Posted March 29, 2012 Report Share Posted March 29, 2012 Here's one.... Police officers carry batons (offensive weapon), and CS spray (Firearm under section 5 of the firearms act). Under whose authority? The Prevention Of Crime Act (POCA) 1953. Read it. It doesn't mention police, what it actually says is that any citizen has a lawful right to arm himself if there is an imminent threat to their life This has been confirmed by the home office, in writing. However, if you were to carry these items on the street, what would happen? The police haven't got a clue... Ask them! Go up to one and ask him on whose authority does he carry the baton and CS. The best answer they will give is ''The home office''. So legally and lawfully I could arm myself (and there are test cases in court to prove this, again just ask and I will post links), and yet the police haven't been educated on that side of the law so will react accordingly. The law serves to protect the leaders from the masses. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
scothunter 12,609 Posted March 29, 2012 Report Share Posted March 29, 2012 Yea Britain is the most heavily watched by CCTV in the world. Personally I don't see anything wrong with it. Maybe we did go a bit Ott but we were getting targeted back then, and now the threat in recent has got greater. DNA is also a thing since been invented that has done a lot of good to people's life's and closure to family's in some cases. The fact they can also prove that you were somewhere you shouldn't or broke the law is just the way it is. Chips in passports why not ? If it stops it from falling into someones hands and shouldn't I'm for it and if by having done personal info on there to make my flight that little bit safer then I'm also up for that. I don't have driving licence so I don't carry one in my wallet but I do have Id cards for work, I see no big deal sticking another one in your wallet. Come on lads don't you think they know all about you already. Lol we all have mobile phones these days do we can be tracked. That's just a by product of technology. Also a good thing and can be a bad thing no big conspiracy IMO Quote Link to post Share on other sites
PlasticJock 539 Posted March 29, 2012 Report Share Posted March 29, 2012 Scot I was in the army and when I left, the amount that I did that isn't on the system is unreal Disorganised to fcuk. The question to your post is, do you agree with all their laws? If you don't, can you leave society provided you waive all benefits (ie. NHS)? Course not. When was the last time they held a public referendum on any laws passed? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
scothunter 12,609 Posted March 29, 2012 Report Share Posted March 29, 2012 The law is there to protect the infrastructure and the government and it's assets these days. The public if were stretched would be the last to get help. But the cops do a lot of good out there mate. Yes there c**ts in the force but there c**ts in everyone's job. Who cares who gives them the right to carry a baton or cs gas. And would never dream of asking one either. It's a big bad wicked world out there and some real loonies they do have the right to protect the selfs . The fact a few gung ho robo cops choose to abuse thier position and assault and the odd occasion kill someone does not mean that the whole force should be not respected and ultimately live like the wild west. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
PlasticJock 539 Posted March 29, 2012 Report Share Posted March 29, 2012 The law is there to protect the infrastructure and the government and it's assets these days. The public if were stretched would be the last to get help. But the cops do a lot of good out there mate. Yes there c**ts in the force but there c**ts in everyone's job. Who cares who gives them the right to carry a baton or cs gas. And would never dream of asking one either. It's a big bad wicked world out there and some real loonies they do have the right to protect the selfs . The fact a few gung ho robo cops choose to abuse thier position and assault and the odd occasion kill someone does not mean that the whole force should be not respected and ultimately live like the wild west. Yes they do alot of good ''It's a big bad world and they have the right to defend themselves''. Do I not I wasn't taking anything away from them or abusing them, my point was that the law says I have the right to defend myself, as do you. I've carried a loaded pistol in the UK (obviously legally), and I didn't fcuk about with it. Why can't I have one now? No conspiracy theories, just everyday stories we read about arseholes killing people for no reason, personally (and call me a bad person if you will), I'd rather be tried by 12 than carried by 6. Our means of defending ourselves are being taken away, and I'm not just talking about guns. Scot, do you honestly believe these polititians are as FCUKING STUPID as they come across as???? Lol Quote Link to post Share on other sites
scothunter 12,609 Posted March 29, 2012 Report Share Posted March 29, 2012 I don't think for one min they are all stupid. In fact there prob some of the cleverest cubts out there in some cases. Whether they ate in touch with the actual world it's citizens live in. Well that's debatable. Do the f**k us over yes on a reg basis lol Yes I do believe you have the right to defend yourself, and the law will recognise that .do they get it wrong in some cases yea they do. Just don't think you have the right to carry a gun or shoot someone. Don't know where you live mate but ive never seen many shoot outs or burglars shooting folk. I have a bat and I wouldn't hesitate to club thier skull if that's excessive I'll worry about that later lol cheers for the discussion but I'm shattered off to bed mate lol Quote Link to post Share on other sites
PlasticJock 539 Posted March 29, 2012 Report Share Posted March 29, 2012 I don't think for one min they are all stupid. In fact there prob some of the cleverest cubts out there in some cases. Whether they ate in touch with the actual world it's citizens live in. Well that's debatable. Do the f**k us over yes on a reg basis lol Yes I do believe you have the right to defend yourself, and the law will recognise that .do they get it wrong in some cases yea they do. Just don't think you have the right to carry a gun or shoot someone. Don't know where you live mate but ive never seen many shoot outs or burglars shooting folk. I have a bat and I wouldn't hesitate to club thier skull if that's excessive I'll worry about that later lol cheers for the discussion but I'm shattered off to bed mate lol Same here You've seen plenty of burglars carrying knives or screwdrivers though haven't you? That is the potential for lethal force, so the law recognises lethal force being used against them How many muggers use knives That has the potential for lethal force, so I'd kill them very quickly without asking questions if I was within the law. You've had your guns taken off you? But if you had to, would you use them? Of course you would. So what's the difference between defending your life in the home and defending it on the street, against a junkie whose had 60 previous convictions? In that case, I'd suggest the system has let you down and it's in your hands. Your not allowed to arm yourself, so they've let you down yet again Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Lab 10,979 Posted March 30, 2012 Report Share Posted March 30, 2012 Love these threads. Always annoys me that my political and historical knowledge is shite..... Been lots of stuff on here about 9/11 especially and its something i'm really interested in..........The more you think about it the powers at be couldn't have been directly involved yet i do believe they may have let things slip by without persuing them in the event they will get the outcome they were after..... WAR!! I never get the arguement about "talking about it will slur the dead"......infact i think the exact opposite. I'm sure the families of the dead would much rather hear the truth than i would... . Quote Link to post Share on other sites
foxfan 479 Posted March 30, 2012 Report Share Posted March 30, 2012 (edited) Feckin 'ell, i get bored when i've got no work Edited April 3, 2012 by foxfan Quote Link to post Share on other sites
WILF 47,396 Posted March 30, 2012 Report Share Posted March 30, 2012 I love all these conspiracy type things.......are politicians working to some agenda.....yes, of course they are Are the powers that be trying to engineer society into their own vision......yes, of course they are, it's as plain as day.......no conspiracy there These people are thinking so far outside the box, it's beyond the comprehension of your ordinary joe soap who has enough on his plate with bills, mortgage , trying to get by........ No secret cabals, it's always been there right in front of people........... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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