predatorman 54 Posted April 2, 2012 Report Share Posted April 2, 2012 well i'm sorry i dont conform to your perception of guaranteed hunter lol, but then again, i'm not on here to get my post count up or reinforce a clique i'm in lol. we'l agree to disagree. happy hunting to all offended. Never offended me, take alot more than that.... I think the problem we have here is mate that trying to defend something or in your case not 100% believing that a lamb will be taken by a fox on a hunting forum is going to raisesome eyebrows and some finger pointing. I dont know you and you dont know me so we have to come to a conclusion by what we write on here. To be fair i have'nt ever 'seen' personnally a fox/badger decimate a pen full of birds but i have picked up the headless remains the next day thouroghly pissed off...... no problem lab, rob's manned up and defending himself now ha ha, I've hardly been on here all weekend so only just noticed your silly inputs, hence the delay in me responding well i'm sorry i dont conform to your perception of guaranteed hunter lol, but then again, i'm not on here to get my post count up or reinforce a clique i'm in lol. we'l agree to disagree. happy hunting to all offended. Never offended me, take alot more than that.... I think the problem we have here is mate that trying to defend something or in your case not 100% believing that a lamb will be taken by a fox on a hunting forum is going to raisesome eyebrows and some finger pointing. I dont know you and you dont know me so we have to come to a conclusion by what we write on here. To be fair i have'nt ever 'seen' personnally a fox/badger decimate a pen full of birds but i have picked up the headless remains the next day thouroghly pissed off...... no problem lab, rob's manned up and defending himself now ha ha, I've hardly been on here all weekend so only just noticed your silly inputs, hence the delay in me responding of course rob Quote Link to post Share on other sites
rob190364 2,594 Posted April 2, 2012 Report Share Posted April 2, 2012 I find it f'ckin bizarre that a couple of bits of info/footage have been put up that support out case for hunting foxes, and two or three so called hunters are disputing it and playing down the pest that foxes are!!!!!.....which side are you on for f'cks sake?????????? Good pics paulus and stevo! rob, you know which side i'm on! foxes need controling on shootland and non shootland because of the damage they can do to pheasants, domestic fowl etc i fully accept that! i asked for footage of fox taking lambs which no one has given. i could find a pic of an airplane in the sky with a skyscraper, it would'nt make it proof of another 9-11 would it? i think you need to calm down and keep on topic pal lol do I??? and how do I KNOW that exactly? to be honest on the strength of what you've put on this thread alone I wouldn't trust you as far as I could throw you! and I'm perfectly calm thanks, and it was kept on topic....someone posted up evidence of fox attacking sheep, and you on your little mission to deny what happens in nature, what's happening in the photographs, trying to spin the truth etc (remind you of any groups??) has argued against it, and I've said what I think....all on topic. :bye: dont go on the strength of this thread alone, look at other threads i've commented on and the advice i've offered, you'll see which side of the fence i'm on. its a bad accusation being labelled an anti, much the same if i called you a dog starver?! lambs taken by foxes in my neck of the woods are unheard of but sheep farming isnt intensive. thats why i wanted to see it, a picture means nothing, a grainy film of a fox running round a ewe did nothing for me either. get over it My point is, if fellow hunters are putting up potential evidence in support of hunting foxes, trying to dispute evidence or reports from people that may have seen foxes attacking sheep is a very wierd thing for a hunter to do, it's the sort of thing an anti would do. That's not to say you are one, but if the pictures or videos aren't convincing in your mind, why not keep it in your head rather than publicly pointing out potential holes in the evidence that people are putting up? See what I mean about whos side are you on?? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
BEARINATOR 2,890 Posted April 2, 2012 Report Share Posted April 2, 2012 I'll see if I still have my video of a fox killing a lamb for you L330, it will need edited though as it shows something illegal since the ban , but if I still have it then I'll let you post it , Did you get the culprit as I've been offline for the past week Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Lab 10,979 Posted April 2, 2012 Report Share Posted April 2, 2012 I'll see if I still have my video of a fox killing a lamb for you L330, it will need edited though as it shows something illegal since the ban , but if I still have it then I'll let you post it , Did you get the culprit as I've been offline for the past week If its the one where you f**k the fox to death we dont want to see it thanks very much............ . 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
BEARINATOR 2,890 Posted April 2, 2012 Report Share Posted April 2, 2012 I'll see if I still have my video of a fox killing a lamb for you L330, it will need edited though as it shows something illegal since the ban , but if I still have it then I'll let you post it , Did you get the culprit as I've been offline for the past week If its the one where you f**k the fox to death we dont want to see it thanks very much............ . :laugh: Lab, I'm busy making bear cub number 2 now but ain't allowed to video her Quote Link to post Share on other sites
predatorman 54 Posted April 3, 2012 Report Share Posted April 3, 2012 rob, the anti's will never win a reprieve for foxes based on whether they kill lambs or not, as we know they are vermin needing culling due to the damage they do to gamebirds, ground nesting birds and even family pets. the verbal replies were interesting, the visual ones were'nt as i pointed out. imagine i'm selling you a lurcher preban as a 100% fox dog. i show you a picture of him running near a fox and a video of him running around a fox laid on the floor. your money would stay in your pocket right?! you would'nt be convinced and neither was i. whether i believe foxes take lambs is irrelavant, to us or anti's and i explained that without name calling or accusations. are we on the same wavelength now Quote Link to post Share on other sites
rob190364 2,594 Posted April 3, 2012 Report Share Posted April 3, 2012 rob, the anti's will never win a reprieve for foxes based on whether they kill lambs or not, as we know they are vermin needing culling due to the damage they do to gamebirds, ground nesting birds and even family pets. the verbal replies were interesting, the visual ones were'nt as i pointed out. imagine i'm selling you a lurcher preban as a 100% fox dog. i show you a picture of him running near a fox and a video of him running around a fox laid on the floor. your money would stay in your pocket right?! you would'nt be convinced and neither was i. whether i believe foxes take lambs is irrelavant, to us or anti's and i explained that without name calling or accusations. are we on the same wavelength now not a great comparrison to be honest bud, the picture of the lurcher running round a fox wouldn't tell you whether or not the lurcher would actually go in for the kill, I agree. However, you can't tell me that a fox approaching a lamb would be worried about the lamb biting back, surely? if a fox gets an opportunity on a newly born lamb it would take it, why wouldn't it?? it's an opportunist, a lamb is a very easy target, I don't quite understand why it would be so hard to believe that the fox would take it, it'd feed it for days!!! I know what you're saying, they need culling for other reasons, but the fact of the matter is they're a pest for killing game birds, ground nesting birds etc., but they're a bigger pest for the other things they also kill that are kept hush hush by various groups. It leads to yet another hipocrisy by anti groups, they deny that foxes kill lambs....and yet if they do, and the antis know it, then surely they're saying that they're not arsed about the lambs lives, they just want to protect foxes. Which I suppose supports the views that most hunters have where these so called antis aren't actually bothered about the welfare of animals etc., they're just protesting because in their stupid worlds protests etc. are the cool thing to do. If every person in the country stopped hunting right now they'd focus their pathetic attention on something else, conveniently forget about half the facts, not gaining any knowledge about the cause they're actually supposed to be representing and off they go again! Lets face it, if these people were SO passionate about animals and animal welfare, they wouldn't even be living on this f*****g island, they'd go off in their droves to all these other countries that do actually treat animals cruelly and carry out practices that are 100 times worse than anything that goes on in the UK.......but that wouldn't be convenient would it, that'd be too much effort, so their precious little animals aren't worth them putting a bit of effort in. And finally................I'm going to get a brew cos I'm doing my own head in now!!! 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
predatorman 54 Posted April 3, 2012 Report Share Posted April 3, 2012 lol, i went cross eyed reading that so the second time i went through it i took on some good valid points you made. its been a good debate, we've had our say with no hard feelings. have a lazy summer and a busy new season. atb 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
gonetoearth 5,144 Posted April 3, 2012 Report Share Posted April 3, 2012 (edited) The hunting with dogs act was badly put together thank fooook with loop holes , the anti lobby relished the thought that would stop hunting they never bargained for the tenacity of the hunting folk , do foxes take lambs yes can i prove it yes on here no thanks why , I have no need satisfi any one anti or not we hunt within the law hill farmers controlling the ultimate opportunist the red fox . I'll leave you with one statement I've never heard any one with a rifle ever say I HAD A FOX IN MY SIGHTS LAST NIGHT HE WAS A FINE SPECIMEN I LET HIM RUN !!!!!!!!!!! WITHOUGHT THE FOX ARE WAY OF LIFE WILL DIE Edited April 3, 2012 by gonetoearth 4 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Guest cookiemonsterandmerlin Posted April 3, 2012 Report Share Posted April 3, 2012 I want to protect foxes so I can shoot more ATB Cookie Quote Link to post Share on other sites
PlasticJock 539 Posted April 3, 2012 Report Share Posted April 3, 2012 I want to protect foxes so I can shoot more ATB Cookie I feed them Quote Link to post Share on other sites
gonetoearth 5,144 Posted April 3, 2012 Report Share Posted April 3, 2012 I want to protect foxes so I can shoot more ATB Cookie I feed them you wont be the first nor the last 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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