rob190364 2,594 Posted March 28, 2012 Report Share Posted March 28, 2012 course you do bud...on with the charade Rob stop being a prick if you have a view to add then add it.....if you dont then go and pick holes in some other c**t.........i tend not to get involved in debates i have no knowledge on or you just make a c**t of yourself trying to bullshit and front it out............your experience and knowledge of treadmills/outdoor running was you got puffed out for some reason !..........im sure we could all aspire to such a level of understanding. I could post an absolute shit load of info on treadmills, dog fighting, boxing, whatever topic took my fancy, and it'd be all spot on expert advice and the stats would be spot on..........that's the power of google, you can have a load of knowledge of the theory on a subject that you've had sod all to do with outside of your laptop....you of all people should know that anyway, let's keep the topic on track eh? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
TOMO 26,182 Posted March 28, 2012 Report Share Posted March 28, 2012 yeh folk could do that rob your right,,,,, however ive always thought gnashers advice on training fittnes ect,, has been born through experiance Quote Link to post Share on other sites
gnasher16 30,121 Posted March 28, 2012 Report Share Posted March 28, 2012 funny that gnash i used to always think the smiths machine was harder,,, that was untill in the last few years ive been using a very modern one that old thing we used years ago used to stick and catch ,,, :laugh: I remember them fuckers Tomo......if you didnt grease them up first you would have a 25k plate on either side and struggle like f**k pushing metal against metal !!......Todays machines are something else mate counter balanced,electrostatic coating,state of the art bearings......mind you at 10-15 grand a pop which the modern ones are,so they should be. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
TOMO 26,182 Posted March 28, 2012 Report Share Posted March 28, 2012 Gnasher.............I take anything you say on the subject in. I know you know your stuff and thanks very much for your input. Yourself and Tomo have been very helpful with my gym training........along with others too of course.... well thats nice of you to say,,but my experiance is far outweighed by gnashers,, like i said when you first asked,, ask gnasher. glad your enjoying it all though mate,, i keep reading your updates,,good on ya keep it up Quote Link to post Share on other sites
gnasher16 30,121 Posted March 28, 2012 Report Share Posted March 28, 2012 Gnasher.............I take anything you say on the subject in. I know you know your stuff and thanks very much for your input. Yourself and Tomo have been very helpful with my gym training........along with others too of course.... No problem sir,i think its great when folk decide to get themself switched on to their own body and stop abusing it........your over the worst as for most folk the body is far stronger than the mind and its the mind that usually fails first......if your still keen after the first 3 months the mental test is passed......so good luck to you Quote Link to post Share on other sites
TOMO 26,182 Posted March 28, 2012 Report Share Posted March 28, 2012 funny that gnash i used to always think the smiths machine was harder,,, that was untill in the last few years ive been using a very modern one that old thing we used years ago used to stick and catch ,,, :laugh: I remember them fuckers Tomo......if you didnt grease them up first you would have a 25k plate on either side and struggle like f**k pushing metal against metal !!......Todays machines are something else mate counter balanced,electrostatic coating,state of the art bearings......mind you at 10-15 grand a pop which the modern ones are,so they should be. is that how much they cost , feck me,,,yeh those that i use at virgin active smooth as hell ,techno gym i think,, as you say its the ball bearing and counterbalance,, i got such a shock when i first used the Quote Link to post Share on other sites
gnasher16 30,121 Posted March 28, 2012 Report Share Posted March 28, 2012 I could post an absolute shit load of info on treadmills, dog fighting, boxing, whatever topic took my fancy, and it'd be all spot on expert advice and the stats would be spot on..........that's the power of google, you can have a load of knowledge of the theory on a subject that you've had sod all to do with outside of your laptop....you of all people should know that If you like mate......the only reason we are having this conversation is because of a laptop.....typing words,thats what you are doing thats what im doing.............thats what people do on an internet forum.....if you want something proven in the real world then your most welcome to come and have a natter and see if the shoe fits If not......the internet it is im afraid Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Lab 10,979 Posted March 28, 2012 Author Report Share Posted March 28, 2012 Gnasher.............I take anything you say on the subject in. I know you know your stuff and thanks very much for your input. Yourself and Tomo have been very helpful with my gym training........along with others too of course.... No problem sir,i think its great when folk decide to get themself switched on to their own body and stop abusing it........your over the worst as for most folk the body is far stronger than the mind and its the mind that usually fails first......if your still keen after the first 3 months the mental test is passed......so good luck to you Yip mate still enjoying it. Lucky to have a mate as a training partner and getting to go 3/4 times a week. The real test will be in the middle of summer when i have a field full of pheasants and when i get a chance to sit down will i want to go lift weights.......i think i will. The body is changing, slowly but definate changes. Weights are increasing and the bike and running is getting easier until i step it up again. Cheers again....... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
gnasher16 30,121 Posted March 28, 2012 Report Share Posted March 28, 2012 [well thats nice of you to say,,but my experiance is far outweighed by gnashers,, like i said when you first asked,, ask gnasher. glad your enjoying it all though mate,, i keep reading your updates,,good on ya keep it up Tomo its not about experience its mainly folk just like you who have given me the majority of any knowledge of training i might have..... people like you who walk into gyms every day discussing things and learning from each other that keeps me on the ball no major success i ever had....id be as well thanking you as i would be thanking Labtastic as thanking anyone else who use gyms and thats one of the things i love about the fitness game its very competetive,but in a very pleasant way Quote Link to post Share on other sites
TOMO 26,182 Posted March 28, 2012 Report Share Posted March 28, 2012 very good max,,,, but i know your not doing all that Quote Link to post Share on other sites
PlasticJock 539 Posted March 28, 2012 Report Share Posted March 28, 2012 Lab for fitness you can't beat fartlek training - google it As someone else said 10k is fcuk all when you reach a reasonable level, good luck. And when you do it make sure to post pics in your spandex Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Lab 10,979 Posted March 28, 2012 Author Report Share Posted March 28, 2012 Just enjoy your Training and mix things around so as not to get bored and keep shocking your muscles. Try Pyramid training ie, Find the max you can lift at every Exercise Then start at light weights doing 1 set of 25 reps Go a bit heavier and do a set of 20 reps Bit Heavier a set of 12 Bit Heavier 8 Bit Heavier 4 Then 2 of your Max Then work your way back down 2 Max 4, 8, 12, 20,25. Train 2 body parts per work out and do 5 different exercises per body part. Start with 20 mins on Treadmill with some incline work after 5 mins for 5 mins. Speed it up for 5 mins then 5 mins cool down. 10-15 mins on a Rowing machine twice per week Put some push ups in there, wide,narrow, angled, off centered ect. Do 3 2mins on Bags Couple of times per week. 200 sit ups 3-4 times per week to finish off. Every few months lift Heavy for a Month to Shock your Muscles and Kill the Boredom. Train Hard, eat Healthy, get 7-8 hours good sleep. Dont Smoke , keep off the Drink Keep off the Juice and stick to Creatine and Protien ( Maximuscle aint bad ) 2 Months on then a Month off then maybe change to Cyclone for your next 2 months. Something of the above and done for the fun but with intensity should have you looking well come July-august and really well by next summer. Listen to your body and have rest days, dont overtrain. Treat yourself once in a while and pig out. Enjoy. Throw in a Circut every week instead of weights or a swim. Just enjoy your Training and mix things around so as not to get bored and keep shocking your muscles. Try Pyramid training ie, Find the max you can lift at every Exercise Then start at light weights doing 1 set of 25 reps Go a bit heavier and do a set of 20 reps Bit Heavier a set of 12 Bit Heavier 8 Bit Heavier 4 Then 2 of your Max Then work your way back down 2 Max 4, 8, 12, 20,25. Train 2 body parts per work out and do 5 different exercises per body part. Start with 20 mins on Treadmill with some incline work after 5 mins for 5 mins. Speed it up for 5 mins then 5 mins cool down. 10-15 mins on a Rowing machine twice per week Put some push ups in there, wide,narrow, angled, off centered ect. Do 3 2mins on Bags Couple of times per week. 200 sit ups 3-4 times per week to finish off. Every few months lift Heavy for a Month to Shock your Muscles and Kill the Boredom. Train Hard, eat Healthy, get 7-8 hours good sleep. Dont Smoke , keep off the Drink Keep off the Juice and stick to Creatine and Protien ( Maximuscle aint bad ) 2 Months on then a Month off then maybe change to Cyclone for your next 2 months. Something of the above and done for the fun but with intensity should have you looking well come July-august and really well by next summer. Listen to your body and have rest days, dont overtrain. Treat yourself once in a while and pig out. Enjoy. Throw in a Circut every week instead of weights or a swim. Wow cheers.................taking Muscle Mass and Creatine, wont be doing any dodgy stuff..............f**k that!! I'll swing that by the training partner...........sounds like stuff to try.... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Lab 10,979 Posted March 28, 2012 Author Report Share Posted March 28, 2012 Lab for fitness you can't beat fartlek training - google it As someone else said 10k is fcuk all when you reach a reasonable level, good luck. And when you do it make sure to post pics in your spandex Roll on summer eh..... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
TOMO 26,182 Posted March 28, 2012 Report Share Posted March 28, 2012 Lab for fitness you can't beat fartlek training - google it As someone else said 10k is fcuk all when you reach a reasonable level, good luck. And when you do it make sure to post pics in your spandex yeh that fartlek is hard stuff.... you can do that with dogs as well Quote Link to post Share on other sites
1Wally 204 Posted March 28, 2012 Report Share Posted March 28, 2012 Lab for fitness you can't beat fartlek training - google it As someone else said 10k is fcuk all when you reach a reasonable level, good luck. And when you do it make sure to post pics in your spandex yeh that fartlek is hard stuff.... you can do that with dogs as well As said before Fartlek is interval training it can be as hard as you like. Nothing better for recovery times imo Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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