Lab 10,979 Posted March 28, 2012 Author Report Share Posted March 28, 2012 Well i'm heading for 3 months at the gym and still loving it. Muscle building and getting fitter but now i'd like to know what i should do on the treadmill. At the moment i am doing 15mins at 12.5kmph at a .5 gradient. Now would it be better to stick at this speed and do a longer time or should i just stick to the time but increase the speed? Cheers..... Theres no right answer to that mate, but theres nowt better for fitness than doing high intensity intervals. Do hill sprints outside, walking or jogging back down. Or incorporate sprints into a normal run. It kills but is brilliant for recovery time and overall fitness. After not long 10k will seem a walk in the park and you wont lose muscle training like this, as you do with low intensity cardio, you will build it. Hope so mate. I've noticed a big difference from doing the bike to running. After 15mins on the bike then doing a 45-60 mins weights i'm fine but after running then doing weights i really feel it. I'll try one of these preset things on the running machine where it does incorporate hills and speed increase.........just dont want to do an injury or have a heart attack, i dont like to give in once ive set my time..... Cheers... why don't you just go running outside now the weather has changed? you can take the mutts with you then and it'll be more interesting than staring at a wall! I'm just contemplating that right now mate. Its different running outside too inside seemingly and as i am just starting i'm wanting to get the best advice. Anyway i can run for about 3k now....i'll kill my dogs by then... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
rob190364 2,594 Posted March 28, 2012 Report Share Posted March 28, 2012 Well i'm heading for 3 months at the gym and still loving it. Muscle building and getting fitter but now i'd like to know what i should do on the treadmill. At the moment i am doing 15mins at 12.5kmph at a .5 gradient. Now would it be better to stick at this speed and do a longer time or should i just stick to the time but increase the speed? Cheers..... Theres no right answer to that mate, but theres nowt better for fitness than doing high intensity intervals. Do hill sprints outside, walking or jogging back down. Or incorporate sprints into a normal run. It kills but is brilliant for recovery time and overall fitness. After not long 10k will seem a walk in the park and you wont lose muscle training like this, as you do with low intensity cardio, you will build it. Hope so mate. I've noticed a big difference from doing the bike to running. After 15mins on the bike then doing a 45-60 mins weights i'm fine but after running then doing weights i really feel it. I'll try one of these preset things on the running machine where it does incorporate hills and speed increase.........just dont want to do an injury or have a heart attack, i dont like to give in once ive set my time..... Cheers... why don't you just go running outside now the weather has changed? you can take the mutts with you then and it'll be more interesting than staring at a wall! I'm just contemplating that right now mate. Its different running outside too inside seemingly and as i am just starting i'm wanting to get the best advice. Anyway i can run for about 3k now....i'll kill my dogs by then... never been a big fan of treadmills but when I have tried them in the past I've been able to keep going for a reasonable time......but if I go running outside I have a lung hanging out of my mouth after about 5 minutes, god knows why!! seems a lot harder for some reason. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
1Wally 204 Posted March 28, 2012 Report Share Posted March 28, 2012 You dont have to provide any forward motion on a treadmill, makes all the difference. Off road running is the best training by far. Get in the fields 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Lab 10,979 Posted March 28, 2012 Author Report Share Posted March 28, 2012 Well i'm heading for 3 months at the gym and still loving it. Muscle building and getting fitter but now i'd like to know what i should do on the treadmill. At the moment i am doing 15mins at 12.5kmph at a .5 gradient. Now would it be better to stick at this speed and do a longer time or should i just stick to the time but increase the speed? Cheers..... Theres no right answer to that mate, but theres nowt better for fitness than doing high intensity intervals. Do hill sprints outside, walking or jogging back down. Or incorporate sprints into a normal run. It kills but is brilliant for recovery time and overall fitness. After not long 10k will seem a walk in the park and you wont lose muscle training like this, as you do with low intensity cardio, you will build it. Hope so mate. I've noticed a big difference from doing the bike to running. After 15mins on the bike then doing a 45-60 mins weights i'm fine but after running then doing weights i really feel it. I'll try one of these preset things on the running machine where it does incorporate hills and speed increase.........just dont want to do an injury or have a heart attack, i dont like to give in once ive set my time..... Cheers... why don't you just go running outside now the weather has changed? you can take the mutts with you then and it'll be more interesting than staring at a wall! I'm just contemplating that right now mate. Its different running outside too inside seemingly and as i am just starting i'm wanting to get the best advice. Anyway i can run for about 3k now....i'll kill my dogs by then... never been a big fan of treadmills but when I have tried them in the past I've been able to keep going for a reasonable time......but if I go running outside I have a lung hanging out of my mouth after about 5 minutes, god knows why!! seems a lot harder for some reason. The only thing i like about the treadmill is theres a clear goal ahead. If i know i have 3-4 mins to go then i can push on, i might find it easier just to give in if i'm on the road. Also i would like to take the dogs with me but with 4 i wouldn't be running on the roads but more the forestry track and its a little bumpy.....just my luck i'll break an ankle fecking miles away.... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
rob190364 2,594 Posted March 28, 2012 Report Share Posted March 28, 2012 Well i'm heading for 3 months at the gym and still loving it. Muscle building and getting fitter but now i'd like to know what i should do on the treadmill. At the moment i am doing 15mins at 12.5kmph at a .5 gradient. Now would it be better to stick at this speed and do a longer time or should i just stick to the time but increase the speed? Cheers..... Theres no right answer to that mate, but theres nowt better for fitness than doing high intensity intervals. Do hill sprints outside, walking or jogging back down. Or incorporate sprints into a normal run. It kills but is brilliant for recovery time and overall fitness. After not long 10k will seem a walk in the park and you wont lose muscle training like this, as you do with low intensity cardio, you will build it. Hope so mate. I've noticed a big difference from doing the bike to running. After 15mins on the bike then doing a 45-60 mins weights i'm fine but after running then doing weights i really feel it. I'll try one of these preset things on the running machine where it does incorporate hills and speed increase.........just dont want to do an injury or have a heart attack, i dont like to give in once ive set my time..... Cheers... why don't you just go running outside now the weather has changed? you can take the mutts with you then and it'll be more interesting than staring at a wall! I'm just contemplating that right now mate. Its different running outside too inside seemingly and as i am just starting i'm wanting to get the best advice. Anyway i can run for about 3k now....i'll kill my dogs by then... never been a big fan of treadmills but when I have tried them in the past I've been able to keep going for a reasonable time......but if I go running outside I have a lung hanging out of my mouth after about 5 minutes, god knows why!! seems a lot harder for some reason. The only thing i like about the treadmill is theres a clear goal ahead. If i know i have 3-4 mins to go then i can push on, i might find it easier just to give in if i'm on the road. Also i would like to take the dogs with me but with 4 i wouldn't be running on the roads but more the forestry track and its a little bumpy.....just my luck i'll break an ankle fecking miles away.... what an absolute mary ann you are!!!! get out there you tit, alternate between your dogs in groups of two, it'll give the dogs a day inbetween to get over their asthma attacks Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Lab 10,979 Posted March 28, 2012 Author Report Share Posted March 28, 2012 Hash bash is not the way my friend.............. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
gnasher16 30,121 Posted March 28, 2012 Report Share Posted March 28, 2012 You dont have to provide any forward motion on a treadmill, makes all the difference. Off road running is the best training by far. Get in the fields Theres a hundred and one reasons why running outside is harder than running a mill.....and forward motion isnt one of them. If you dont have to provide forward motion then try standing still on one and see where you end up !.......Its the same as a rowing machine being easier than rowing a boat....or a smiths machine being easier than lifting a barbell.......so many other forces come into play,adrenalin being one,small muscle groups that dont have to compensate for things like uneven ground/balance etc........basic fitness is one of the few subjects that technology has as many pitfalls as it does bonuses. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
1Wally 204 Posted March 28, 2012 Report Share Posted March 28, 2012 You dont have to provide any forward motion on a treadmill, makes all the difference. Off road running is the best training by far. Get in the fields Theres a hundred and one reasons why running outside is harder than running a mill.....and forward motion isnt one of them. If you dont have to provide forward motion then try standing still on one and see where you end up !.......Its the same as a rowing machine being easier than rowing a boat....or a smiths machine being easier than lifting a barbell.......so many other forces come into play,adrenalin being one,small muscle groups that dont have to compensate for things like uneven ground/balance etc........basic fitness is one of the few subjects that technology has as many pitfalls as it does bonuses. Forward motion most definately is one of the reasons why you are using some other muscles, running on a glass smooth track is still harder than running on a treadmill. You are propelling yourself forward outside and the path is not moving underneath you. Was reading a report on this recently, think it was from the Reebok centre. I agree with everything else you say. Atb Quote Link to post Share on other sites
rob190364 2,594 Posted March 28, 2012 Report Share Posted March 28, 2012 You dont have to provide any forward motion on a treadmill, makes all the difference. Off road running is the best training by far. Get in the fields Theres a hundred and one reasons why running outside is harder than running a mill.....and forward motion isnt one of them. If you dont have to provide forward motion then try standing still on one and see where you end up !.......Its the same as a rowing machine being easier than rowing a boat....or a smiths machine being easier than lifting a barbell.......so many other forces come into play,adrenalin being one,small muscle groups that dont have to compensate for things like uneven ground/balance etc........basic fitness is one of the few subjects that technology has as many pitfalls as it does bonuses. Forward motion most definately is one of the reasons why you are using some other muscles, running on a glass smooth track is still harder than running on a treadmill. You are propelling yourself forward outside and the path is not moving underneath you. Was reading a report on this recently, think it was from the Reebok centre. I agree with everything else you say. Atb you can't disagree with gnasher about stuff like that!!!!!! what are you thinking man! He's spent hundreds of hours reading wikipedia, he must be right! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
1Wally 204 Posted March 28, 2012 Report Share Posted March 28, 2012 You dont have to provide any forward motion on a treadmill, makes all the difference. Off road running is the best training by far. Get in the fields Theres a hundred and one reasons why running outside is harder than running a mill.....and forward motion isnt one of them. If you dont have to provide forward motion then try standing still on one and see where you end up !.......Its the same as a rowing machine being easier than rowing a boat....or a smiths machine being easier than lifting a barbell.......so many other forces come into play,adrenalin being one,small muscle groups that dont have to compensate for things like uneven ground/balance etc........basic fitness is one of the few subjects that technology has as many pitfalls as it does bonuses. Forward motion most definately is one of the reasons why you are using some other muscles, running on a glass smooth track is still harder than running on a treadmill. You are propelling yourself forward outside and the path is not moving underneath you. Was reading a report on this recently, think it was from the Reebok centre. I agree with everything else you say. Atb you can't disagree with gnasher about stuff like that!!!!!! what are you thinking man! He's spent hundreds of hours reading wikipedia, he must be right! I apologise, I didnt know Quote Link to post Share on other sites
gnasher16 30,121 Posted March 28, 2012 Report Share Posted March 28, 2012 (edited) you can't disagree with gnasher about stuff like that!!!!!! what are you thinking man! He's spent hundreds of hours reading wikipedia, he must be right! Rob19058567385867563.............is this the little group of baddies ganging up on me again im not sure i can take it......i prefer to learn through doing something as the written word usually proves a very different story to reality......maybe you should try it. 1Wally......Its a very controversial subject of which theres many different views........similar to the machines/free weights debate in weightlifting and the pros and cons to both..........the forward motion thing is not strictly true.....the moving floor makes it easier on the joints as its essentially like getting a push in the back and theres less impact on the floor due to its movement,you are basically covering more ground with less effort and anything that requires more effort is obviously tougher,hence outside running is tougher than mill running as so many other things come into play....same as you will lift heavier weight on a smiths machine than a free barbell as the balancing is done for you and less muscle groups are required...... But hey f**k it what do i know you lads crack on ! Edited March 28, 2012 by gnasher16 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
rob190364 2,594 Posted March 28, 2012 Report Share Posted March 28, 2012 you can't disagree with gnasher about stuff like that!!!!!! what are you thinking man! He's spent hundreds of hours reading wikipedia, he must be right! Rob19058567385867563..............i prefer to learn through doing something as the written word usually proves a very different story to reality......maybe you should try it. 1Wally......Its a very controversial subject of which theres many different views........similar to the machines/free weights debate in weightlifting and the pros and cons to both..........the forward motion thing is not strictly true.....the moving floor makes it easier on the joints as its essentially like getting a push in the back and theres less impact on the floor due to its movement,you are basically covering more ground with less effort and anything that requires more effort is obviously tougher,hence outside running is tougher than mill running as so many other things come into play....same as you will lift heavier weight on a smiths machine than a free barbell as the balancing is done for you and less muscle groups are required...... But hey f**k it what do i know you lads crack on ! course you do bud...on with the charade Quote Link to post Share on other sites
gnasher16 30,121 Posted March 28, 2012 Report Share Posted March 28, 2012 course you do bud...on with the charade Rob stop being a prick if you have a view to add then add it.....if you dont then go and pick holes in some other c**t.........i tend not to get involved in debates i have no knowledge on or you just make a c**t of yourself trying to bullshit and front it out............your experience and knowledge of treadmills/outdoor running was you got puffed out for some reason !..........im sure we could all aspire to such a level of understanding. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
TOMO 26,182 Posted March 28, 2012 Report Share Posted March 28, 2012 funny that gnash i used to always think the smiths machine was harder,,, that was untill in the last few years ive been using a very modern one that old thing we used years ago used to stick and catch ,,, Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Lab 10,979 Posted March 28, 2012 Author Report Share Posted March 28, 2012 Gnasher.............I take anything you say on the subject in. I know you know your stuff and thanks very much for your input. Yourself and Tomo have been very helpful with my gym training........along with others too of course.... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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