Born Hunter 17,812 Posted March 23, 2012 Report Share Posted March 23, 2012 (edited) Double post Edited March 23, 2012 by Born Hunter Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Born Hunter 17,812 Posted March 23, 2012 Report Share Posted March 23, 2012 (edited) The dog done nothing wrong in this incident,whether or not it has previously is completely irrelevant now since they didn't come to seize the dog. not the dogs fault or the owners,the polices own fault,they showed their true colours when one of their men got attacked and the rest ran away and hid. if someone broke into my kennel and one of mine attacked them is it my fault,the dogs fault or the c**t who broke ins fault? Yes you're right, but the dog was a dangerous animal and it's a good thing it's dead. It's as simple as that. The police should have been prepared for it and as you say they should have showed some bollocks rather than everyman for himself and f**k the poor sod that the dog's got hold of. Like I said, same old story. But I for one am glad the dog is dead. The only piece of legislation they need to enforce is a compulsary bullet for dog and owner that are responsible for these attacks. Edited March 23, 2012 by Born Hunter 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Millet 4,497 Posted March 23, 2012 Report Share Posted March 23, 2012 I cant belive the other copper was happy to watch his pal getten his arm chewed off and ran off,came back for closer look and stood on the wall.. I am no hero but sure I could of attempted to set about the dog with a asp when its jaws where frimly clamped of the other boy... I was thinking the exact same...surely a lead could of been tightly wrapped around it's neck as soon as it was locked on.. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
skycat 6,174 Posted March 23, 2012 Report Share Posted March 23, 2012 Soft society, soft attitude towards both criminals and dangerous dogs, no matter how the poor dogs ended up being dangerous in the first place. If there was zero tolerance to violent crime and drugs and zero tolerance to out of control dogs we'd all be a lot better off. Another thing that makes me mad is the idiots who try and smuggle drugs in and out of zero tolerance countries then bleat about the harsh punishment they get: if we had the same attitude there'd be less crime in the first place, and less chance of idiots owning out of control dogs. Never the dog's fault IMO, just the b*stards who own them. 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
skycat 6,174 Posted March 23, 2012 Report Share Posted March 23, 2012 I cant belive the other copper was happy to watch his pal getten his arm chewed off and ran off,came back for closer look and stood on the wall.. I am no hero but sure I could of attempted to set about the dog with a asp when its jaws where frimly clamped of the other boy... I was thinking the exact same...surely a lead could of been tightly wrapped around it's neck as soon as it was locked on.. Don't forget, they're not used to dealing with animals that bite, unlike a lot of hunters: they panicked because they didn't have the skills or experience to deal with the situation. Yes, someone could have throttled it off, or once strung up on a lead, put a bullet straight in its skull. Four shots: FFS! 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
blan89 159 Posted March 23, 2012 Report Share Posted March 23, 2012 The dog done nothing wrong in this incident,whether or not it has previously is completely irrelevant now since they didn't come to seize the dog. not the dogs fault or the owners,the polices own fault,they showed their true colours when one of their men got attacked and the rest ran away and hid. if someone broke into my kennel and one of mine attacked them is it my fault,the dogs fault or the c**t who broke ins fault? Yes you're right, but the dog was a dangerous animal and it's a good thing it's dead. It's as simple as that. The police should have been prepared for it and as you say they should have showed some bollocks rather than everyman for himself and f**k the poor sod that the dog's got hold of. Like I said, same old story. But I for one am glad the dog is dead. well should every case not be judged on its merits? I'm not at all glad it got shot,because it does no good for bull breeds reputations. in fact this could be worse than a child getting attacked (for the breed),because rather than putting off some sensible people it will make them look even more attractive to dicks. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Born Hunter 17,812 Posted March 23, 2012 Report Share Posted March 23, 2012 The dog done nothing wrong in this incident,whether or not it has previously is completely irrelevant now since they didn't come to seize the dog. not the dogs fault or the owners,the polices own fault,they showed their true colours when one of their men got attacked and the rest ran away and hid. if someone broke into my kennel and one of mine attacked them is it my fault,the dogs fault or the c**t who broke ins fault? Yes you're right, but the dog was a dangerous animal and it's a good thing it's dead. It's as simple as that. The police should have been prepared for it and as you say they should have showed some bollocks rather than everyman for himself and f**k the poor sod that the dog's got hold of. Like I said, same old story. But I for one am glad the dog is dead. well should every case not be judged on its merits? I'm not at all glad it got shot,because it does no good for bull breeds reputations. in fact this could be worse than a child getting attacked (for the breed),because rather than putting off some sensible people it will make them look even more attractive to dicks. It wasn't the dog getting shot that looks bad for bull breeds, it's the attack itself! The only people that should own such warriors are those with the experience, respect and use for them. 'Gangsters' and wannabees need not apply. If someone wants a guard dog then buy a f*****g guard dog, don't take an animal bred for combat and breed in human agression to get a loaded gun with an unpredictable hair trigger. The merits of the situation.... You say the dog was acting in loyalty to it's master and protecting it's home? I say it could just as easily attacked for the hell of it, especially based on the fact it has allegedly attacked a builder in the street! The f*****g thing is dead and a good job to. I understand those glocks have 17 shots? Perhaps the remaining 13 could be put to use with the careless owner? 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
micckey 106 Posted March 23, 2012 Report Share Posted March 23, 2012 The dog done nothing wrong in this incident,whether or not it has previously is completely irrelevant now since they didn't come to seize the dog. not the dogs fault or the owners,the polices own fault,they showed their true colours when one of their men got attacked and the rest ran away and hid. if someone broke into my kennel and one of mine attacked them is it my fault,the dogs fault or the c**t who broke ins fault? Yes you're right, but the dog was a dangerous animal and it's a good thing it's dead. It's as simple as that. The police should have been prepared for it and as you say they should have showed some bollocks rather than everyman for himself and f**k the poor sod that the dog's got hold of. Like I said, same old story. But I for one am glad the dog is dead. well should every case not be judged on its merits? I'm not at all glad it got shot,because it does no good for bull breeds reputations. in fact this could be worse than a child getting attacked (for the breed),because rather than putting off some sensible people it will make them look even more attractive to dicks. yes in the right hands these dogs are gentle,, nanny dogs,,but in the wrong hands they are a weapon, who wants a dog to bite people realy the crime of this is the breed will get bad press while the owner will not even get a dog ban or time.. ,, to own a dog like this is like having a fire arms, they knew what that dog was like they made it that way ..now the breed will suffer while they will just get another dog.... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
blan89 159 Posted March 23, 2012 Report Share Posted March 23, 2012 The dog done nothing wrong in this incident,whether or not it has previously is completely irrelevant now since they didn't come to seize the dog. not the dogs fault or the owners,the polices own fault,they showed their true colours when one of their men got attacked and the rest ran away and hid. if someone broke into my kennel and one of mine attacked them is it my fault,the dogs fault or the c**t who broke ins fault? Yes you're right, but the dog was a dangerous animal and it's a good thing it's dead. It's as simple as that. The police should have been prepared for it and as you say they should have showed some bollocks rather than everyman for himself and f**k the poor sod that the dog's got hold of. Like I said, same old story. But I for one am glad the dog is dead. well should every case not be judged on its merits? I'm not at all glad it got shot,because it does no good for bull breeds reputations. in fact this could be worse than a child getting attacked (for the breed),because rather than putting off some sensible people it will make them look even more attractive to dicks. It wasn't the dog getting shot that looks bad for bull breeds, it's the attack itself! The only people that should own such warriors are those with the experience, respect and use for them. 'Gangsters' and wannabees need not apply. If someone wants a guard dog then buy a f*****g guard dog, don't take an animal bred for combat and breed in human agression to get a loaded gun with an unpredictable hair trigger. The merits of the situation.... You say the dog was acting in loyalty to it's master and protecting it's home? I say it could just as easily attacked for the hell of it, especially based on the fact it has allegedly attacked a builder in the street! The f*****g thing is dead and a good job to. I understand those glocks have 17 shots? Perhaps the remaining 13 could be put to use with the careless owner? It's the owners choice what they do with their dog. they do and should have the freedom to train any dog the way they want,if it goes wrong it's on them,all of this endless legislation is what squashes common sense. I wouldn't train/raise a dog like that to be a protector,but others would as is their right to,and they don't all turn out unpredictable if used for that. nothing in this incident showed the dog was unreliable or needlessly aggressive,though maybe the owner was careless letting his door get kicked down like that! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
fazza123 517 Posted March 23, 2012 Report Share Posted March 23, 2012 If that dog was that bad the police would of had it in there notes before they broke in. That's there job ! Now because they have cocked up they will come down hard on bull breeds! Dog deserves a medal ! As for the copper loosing his fingers, well that's what happens when you up hold the long arm of the law ! 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
foxfan 479 Posted March 23, 2012 Author Report Share Posted March 23, 2012 (edited) The dog done nothing wrong in this incident,whether or not it has previously is completely irrelevant now since they didn't come to seize the dog. not the dogs fault or the owners,the polices own fault,they showed their true colours when one of their men got attacked and the rest ran away and hid. if someone broke into my kennel and one of mine attacked them is it my fault,the dogs fault or the c**t who broke ins fault? Yes you're right, but the dog was a dangerous animal and it's a good thing it's dead. It's as simple as that. The police should have been prepared for it and as you say they should have showed some bollocks rather than everyman for himself and f**k the poor sod that the dog's got hold of. Like I said, same old story. But I for one am glad the dog is dead. well should every case not be judged on its merits? I'm not at all glad it got shot,because it does no good for bull breeds reputations. in fact this could be worse than a child getting attacked (for the breed),because rather than putting off some sensible people it will make them look even more attractive to dicks. It wasn't the dog getting shot that looks bad for bull breeds, it's the attack itself! The only people that should own such warriors are those with the experience, respect and use for them. 'Gangsters' and wannabees need not apply. If someone wants a guard dog then buy a f*****g guard dog, don't take an animal bred for combat and breed in human agression to get a loaded gun with an unpredictable hair trigger. The merits of the situation.... You say the dog was acting in loyalty to it's master and protecting it's home? I say it could just as easily attacked for the hell of it, especially based on the fact it has allegedly attacked a builder in the street! The f*****g thing is dead and a good job to. I understand those glocks have 17 shots? Perhaps the remaining 13 could be put to use with the careless owner? Wow, do you mean that ? It doesnt say the blokes even been charged with anything, what if they had the wrong address or false information ? Edited March 23, 2012 by foxfan 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
RubyTex 1,957 Posted March 23, 2012 Report Share Posted March 23, 2012 The dog done nothing wrong in this incident,whether or not it has previously is completely irrelevant now since they didn't come to seize the dog. not the dogs fault or the owners,the polices own fault,they showed their true colours when one of their men got attacked and the rest ran away and hid. if someone broke into my kennel and one of mine attacked them is it my fault,the dogs fault or the c**t who broke ins fault? What would you do if a dog went crazy and started ripping chunks out of people? Go over and pet the f****r and tell him it's gunna be alright??! The authorities have obviously made a massive cock up from start to finish, typical council isn't it? People making complaints and they don't give two shits. Dog did it's job and paid the price, but to say the police showed their true colours, i'd love to see you in that position!! Don't get me wrong, i despise the 5-0, but i'd bet my soul on any one of us on here dropping a brick and doing one. 4 shots to bring a dog down, and these are the guys protecting us from terrorists and the like..... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
dymented 2,220 Posted March 23, 2012 Report Share Posted March 23, 2012 Same old story. At least the dog is dead now. The only piece of legislation they need to enforce is a compulsary bullet for dog and owner that are responsible for these attacks. Too many don't take owning a dog seriously enough. If the report is accurate then ANY responsible owner would have behaved very differently to that one. If you have a need for such a dog then you would not act so carelessly and if you had no need for such a liability then you would have the f*****g thing destroyed. Correct me if I'm wrong, but the dog was minding his own business, when all of a sudden 5 blokes kicked the front door in and invaded the house.... As Blan89 said on another thread, what was the dog supposed to do? Realise they had a warrant? As far as I can see the dog defended its home and owner as best it could. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
matthews 88 77 Posted March 23, 2012 Report Share Posted March 23, 2012 exactly you cant say the dog was a dangerous animal it was doing what any trained police dog would do and thats protect fnucking stupid coppers makes me so mad Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Born Hunter 17,812 Posted March 23, 2012 Report Share Posted March 23, 2012 (edited) The dog done nothing wrong in this incident,whether or not it has previously is completely irrelevant now since they didn't come to seize the dog. not the dogs fault or the owners,the polices own fault,they showed their true colours when one of their men got attacked and the rest ran away and hid. if someone broke into my kennel and one of mine attacked them is it my fault,the dogs fault or the c**t who broke ins fault? Yes you're right, but the dog was a dangerous animal and it's a good thing it's dead. It's as simple as that. The police should have been prepared for it and as you say they should have showed some bollocks rather than everyman for himself and f**k the poor sod that the dog's got hold of. Like I said, same old story. But I for one am glad the dog is dead. well should every case not be judged on its merits? I'm not at all glad it got shot,because it does no good for bull breeds reputations. in fact this could be worse than a child getting attacked (for the breed),because rather than putting off some sensible people it will make them look even more attractive to dicks. It wasn't the dog getting shot that looks bad for bull breeds, it's the attack itself! The only people that should own such warriors are those with the experience, respect and use for them. 'Gangsters' and wannabees need not apply. If someone wants a guard dog then buy a f*****g guard dog, don't take an animal bred for combat and breed in human agression to get a loaded gun with an unpredictable hair trigger. The merits of the situation.... You say the dog was acting in loyalty to it's master and protecting it's home? I say it could just as easily attacked for the hell of it, especially based on the fact it has allegedly attacked a builder in the street! The f*****g thing is dead and a good job to. I understand those glocks have 17 shots? Perhaps the remaining 13 could be put to use with the careless owner? Wow, do you mean that ? It doesnt say the blokes even been charged with anything, what if they had the wrong address or false information ? The dog was still a dangerous animal. People keep focusing on this event only and not looking at the bigger picture and the history. The only thing I care about is whether the dog was a dangerous animal and whether the owner treated it as such or was careless with it. Based on both of them facts imo it's a good thing the dog is dead and the owner should be punished accordingly. I would have thought my comment on shooting arse hole owners would have been taken in the exagerated light it was intended... IMO the dog was a dangerous animal and the owner was a careless idiot based on ALL the information provided by the media reports, not just this specific incident. If people think a dog attacking a builder on his bike in the street is acceptible then I'll be f****d. Edited March 23, 2012 by Born Hunter Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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