ALLROUNDER

[dytkos 17,813]

My dogs are allrounders, - They're shit at everything

 

 

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Cheers, D.

[Dan Newcombe 58]

Id say it depends on what you are doing but that the dogs needs to be able to do all aspects of your chosen activity.

 

Id class an all rounder as the dog that, no matter what you choose to be doing on a day will be there with you making itself useful and that is why it varies dog to dog and person to person.

 

One person might be ferreting one morning, bushing in the afternoon and a duck flight followed by some lamping. HIS allrounder would work to the ferrets / nets etc, hunt up in the afternoon, retrieve ducks off the water and then run on the lamp (doesnt have to be all in the same day obviously)

 

Another in the past may have spent the morning digging foxes, afternoon coursing hares and the night lamping foxes and rabbits. His allrounder would have beeen at the hole to draw / catch a fox, catch a hare and then work to the lamp.

 

A dog that does everything his owner wants can only be an all rounder if the things that he wants are varied so no a pure ratter cant be an all rounder, thats a specialist.

 

Going back to the sportsman idea i'd call a person that can play rugby, football, tennis, rounders and cricket an all round sportsman because there are different skills required for each one. The fact he doesnt play ALL known sports doesnt detract from this otherwise there would be no such thing as an all rounder because no one can possibly play ALL sports in the same way as no one does everything available with a dog.

 

In the same way a dog that wil course / lamp foxes, hares and rabbits would not be an all rounder in my mind because the skills are so very similar.

 

My allrounder would lamp rabbits, hunt up, retrieve rabbits / pigeons / game / wildfowl to hand with a soft mouth (to include coming picking up), dog back phesants, track shot deer. Its a lot to ask but in there the skills arent actually that varied, no nets, ferrets etc so should be possible. (edit - i dont actualyl have a dog that will do this, gundogs are more my thing but i am looking into a lurcher, something collie cross ish maybe with a bit of bull)

 

Just my take on it, if the dog does everything you want it to do and that covers a variety of different skills then you have an all rounder. Obviously some dogs / people will do more varied jobs and be more of an all rounder than others but like they say different strokes for different folks

Edited March 20, 2012 by Dan Newcombe

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making itself usefull probably covers it dan

[1Wally 204]

Freddie Flintoff = Good allrounder

[Dan Newcombe 58]

Freddie Flintoft = good all rounder ................ because he can do everything that is required in a day of cricket!

[Adam_Chuck 256]

So an all rounder in everybodys eyes is different. Adam a rabbit dog should do all that that is what is called a rabbit dog not a all rounder. An allrounder in my eyes is a dog that does that plus takes all other quarry.Everybody got diifferent opinions so is there an allrounder?

I know that I was using rabbit dog as an example so a dog that takes rabbits in all ways possible. I would say an all rounder is a dog that u can take with you on any day for what u choose to hunt. Lamping 1 night coursing the next or fox or whatever. The more different types of quarry a dog takes the more well rounded it is

Edited March 20, 2012 by Adam_Chuck

[morton 5,368]

My take on an allrounder,a dog capable of coming to terms with edible ground game including feather,day or night.Must be able to hunt up,find and mark.If you need to take a gun,get a gun dog and anybody longnetting does.nt need a lurcher,just a dog that won,t arouse unwanted attention,a little mongrel capable of pushing bunny,s back to the net.A dog that can account for Charlie is an added asset,but not crucial to an allrounder,if you need a drawing dog,get another terrier.By the time your dog becomes an accomplished allrounder,it will be nearly old enough to retire,its then time to start again.

[dytkos 17,813]

Back to the same old question that been askled on here many times before.

Is an ALLROUNDER a jack of all trades and a master of none, and is a SPECIALIST dog a one trick pony?

There will be a few out there that can pull all the deer species, catch hares, foxes, lamp rabs in small paddocks, ferret, bush etc etc etc but not many. Even less that can excel at all the above.

If a dog is really good, it will be at one or more of the above but I've yet to see one that can do it all consistantly well.

 

Cheers, D.

[birddog 1,354]

....Does this forum have an under 15 section yet !

years or IQ?