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some dogs are just born fox dogs they take to it easily some need a bit help so if YOU think YOUR dog needs abit help double it up till you can see that its ready simple as that you have to know your dog mate is it a soft fecker or has it got bottle? softiesmake good bunny dogs and tough dogs make good fox/deer dogs

Define "softie" for me mate...coz some of the best fox dogs ive ever seen have been as soft as shite regarding everything bar foxes..atb stabba

my older bitch is live to hand with bunnys and is great with the kids but hates fox and makes short work of them
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The whole thing about running a young dog who hasn't seen much action and has only caught rabbits, is the fact he is running Cold Blooded, by that i mean in his head he's not coming out of his corner

Define "softie" for me mate...coz some of the best fox dogs ive ever seen have been as soft as shite regarding everything bar foxes..atb stabba

the way you describe a soft dog is the way i would describe a neglected beaten dog,scared of its own shadow cowers when shouted at,a soft dog to me is a well mannerd dog out of the field,good with kid

i allways like to enter a dog when i think its mature enough depends on each dog, i allways enter single handed as i i find two dogs on one fox can make it hard for one or the other to shake it, i find going out with the terrier is good to start as the gee up of the dog baying winds it all up grab him out hand it to the dog yum yum lol pre ban of course

 

Fair point lad, but how on gods earth can you teach the dog to stay clear of the sharp end of things, the young dog I feel must be made aware of this and thats when an older dog comes into play. If it works for you then fair play, but I can see more young dogs been rabbit dogs in the long run.

stay clear of the sharp end :icon_eek:...... ... if my dogs not at that the "sharp" end hes gone :yes: lads.......

 

We are talking about young dogs here, not well seasoned dogs, young dogs that are been brought on as fox dogs, tell me how do you enter your young dogs onto reds.. guessing from ur reply you just let them in single, it this the case??

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I and almost every other person I know that uses dogs start their dogs on cub foxes and go from there. I started mine on cubs and one was a crazy good fox dog, hated them with a passion. Then I've got another one that treats them like rabbits/hares and will kill them and bring them back without putting a mark on them

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I and almost every other person I know that uses dogs start their dogs on cub foxes and go from there. I started mine on cubs and one was a crazy good fox dog, hated them with a passion. Then I've got another one that treats them like rabbits/hares and will kill them and bring them back without putting a mark on them

 

Ausnick thats fine with starting them on cubs, have you ever come across a time when your pup is to young to slip on cubs, say your pup is six months old and the cubs are out and about, my problem with ur appraoch would be you are looking for perfect timing regarding age of pup and cubs been around at the right time.. I still say the best way is to slip double making sure the seasoned dog is well into the red before ya slip the pup.

 

JMO and I take ur point.

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I and almost every other person I know that uses dogs start their dogs on cub foxes and go from there. I started mine on cubs and one was a crazy good fox dog, hated them with a passion. Then I've got another one that treats them like rabbits/hares and will kill them and bring them back without putting a mark on them

 

Do you run any Arab X's pal

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some good views danny what you say

always try and let them see a few during the day and then at night then doubled up for a few it has worked for me

 

 

Collar is you think of it before ya head up :thumbs:

its in the car prob be tomorrow not just there yet
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I and almost every other person I know that uses dogs start their dogs on cub foxes and go from there. I started mine on cubs and one was a crazy good fox dog, hated them with a passion. Then I've got another one that treats them like rabbits/hares and will kill them and bring them back without putting a mark on them

 

Ausnick thats fine with starting them on cubs, have you ever come across a time when your pup is to young to slip on cubs, say your pup is six months old and the cubs are out and about, my problem with ur appraoch would be you are looking for perfect timing regarding age of pup and cubs been around at the right time.. I still say the best way is to slip double making sure the seasoned dog is well into the red before ya slip the pup.

 

JMO and I take ur point.

No doubt I would start mine doubled up if it wasn't that point of the year. I think a lot of people just breed their dogs at the end of winter so pups come to age when the cubs are around so it's just convenient.

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I and almost every other person I know that uses dogs start their dogs on cub foxes and go from there. I started mine on cubs and one was a crazy good fox dog, hated them with a passion. Then I've got another one that treats them like rabbits/hares and will kill them and bring them back without putting a mark on them

 

Do you run any Arab X's pal

 

No mate, I have but the dog was culled due to being useless...

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some good views danny what you say

always try and let them see a few during the day and then at night then doubled up for a few it has worked for me

 

 

 

Collar is you think of it before ya head up :thumbs:

its in the car prob be tomorrow not just there yet

 

 

sound, have few bits to do round town this morning

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After a few doubled up start slipping single handed(if the the dog is the right age size and type) and if they are taking to the job in hand leave them to it ,but if they are making a meal of it then maybe let the other dog on,and keep slipping single handed and trying them with the other dog on stand by for a couple more times and if they still cant handle it they might not make a single handed dog

how many slips would you give them doubled up graham :thumbs:
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After a few doubled up start slipping single handed(if the the dog is the right age size and type) and if they are taking to the job in hand leave them to it ,but if they are making a meal of it then maybe let the other dog on,and keep slipping single handed and trying them with the other dog on stand by for a couple more times and if they still cant handle it they might not make a single handed dog

how many slips would you give them doubled up graham :thumbs:

It depends on the type of dog and it's age but as soon as they hit the two year old mark they should be able to handle it single from then on ,but i wouldn't knock someone that has a rabbit bred lurcher and knocks a few fox double up at any age :thumbs: Edited by lurcher330
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