woodga 170 Posted March 20, 2012 Report Share Posted March 20, 2012 i have set new snares spun directly from a new roll and used the next day and caught hundreds of rabbits on fences often having rabbits in the wires before returning home and taking large numbers over two days. obviously a new snare stands out to human eyes but on a dark windy night they catch just as many rabbits as a dull snare you may get the odd refusal but that happens with dulled snares as well i like to hang my snares to let the shine dull over but thats mainly to to deter human thieves i have dvd footage showing new snares being used directly from the roll with me and ratcherman and mr tpot and i took 86 rabbits and six pheasants over night and it snowed during the night and the snares were all shiny new ones bears some thought eh Quote Link to post
Rolfe 2 Posted March 20, 2012 Report Share Posted March 20, 2012 Try spinning some "Ruby" snares (copper & brass twist) these are viitually invisible when set and the two-tone wire effect blends in beautifully with the faded grasses on the fence line or hedge run throughs. I was given a batch to try and was impressed by their re-tensioning properties. I have since made up several batches and they perform equally as good as the brass ones in my opinion. Quote Link to post
THE GRIFF 8 Posted March 20, 2012 Author Report Share Posted March 20, 2012 (edited) On 20/03/2012 at 21:08, woodga said: i have set new snares spun directly from a new roll and used the next day and caught hundreds of rabbits on fences often having rabbits in the wires before returning home and taking large numbers over two days. obviously a new snare stands out to human eyes but on a dark windy night they catch just as many rabbits as a dull snare you may get the odd refusal but that happens with dulled snares as well i like to hang my snares to let the shine dull over but thats mainly to to deter human thieves i have dvd footage showing new snares being used directly from the roll with me and ratcherman and mr tpot and i took 86 rabbits and six pheasants over night and it snowed during the night and the snares were all shiny new ones bears some thought eh The first lot I put down at Christmas were shiny and still caught, it wasn't until it snowed and could see footprints running upto the snares and turning away I realised how crafty some of these rabbits are. On this particular bit of land under the circumstances it is more of a personal mission to get rid of every rabbit possible and I have about 40 shiny ones not being used at the moment, I just thought if I can dull them down a bit while they aren't being used it might improve my chances a bit when I do end up using them. I have only just got into snaring since Christmas and found it a good way of controlling rabbits in certain situations as well as the anticipation of not knowing how many will be there when checking them. I plan to start doing it on more ground I have permission on later this year when the nights get lighter. Edited March 20, 2012 by THE GRIFF Quote Link to post
woodga 170 Posted March 20, 2012 Report Share Posted March 20, 2012 On 20/03/2012 at 21:54, Rolfe said: Try spinning some "Ruby" snares (copper & brass twist) these are viitually invisible when set and the two-tone wire effect blends in beautifully with the faded grasses on the fence line or hedge run throughs. I was given a batch to try and was impressed by their re-tensioning properties. I have since made up several batches and they perform equally as good as the brass ones in my opinion. been using ruby snares for years rolfe along with other materials we were at one stage using teflon thread mixed in with the brass this also blended in well and made a nice noose use what ever suits you each to their own n all that Quote Link to post
Tiny 7 1,694 Posted March 21, 2012 Report Share Posted March 21, 2012 With new snares i just bury them for a wk or 2 in the garden,Takes the visual new look off them and scent (Well thats what a auld boy told me yrs ago and it stuck with me, And he caught loads of rabbits in snares so who was i not too do it) Quote Link to post
Rolfe 2 Posted March 21, 2012 Report Share Posted March 21, 2012 On 20/03/2012 at 23:21, woodga said: On 20/03/2012 at 21:54, Rolfe said: Try spinning some "Ruby" snares (copper & brass twist) these are viitually invisible when set and the two-tone wire effect blends in beautifully with the faded grasses on the fence line or hedge run throughs. I was given a batch to try and was impressed by their re-tensioning properties. I have since made up several batches and they perform equally as good as the brass ones in my opinion. been using ruby snares for years rolfe along with other materials we were at one stage using teflon thread mixed in with the brass this also blended in well and made a nice noose use what ever suits you each to their own n all that I am experimenting with bird-wire snares at the minute........they are demons on squirrel poles........virtually invisible the nylon coated 7 strand stainless steel inner core has a 22kg breaking strain and they are friction free. As you say Woodga each to their own types and methods........and long may it continue as this is where new ideas and techniques evolve Quote Link to post
micky 3,325 Posted March 21, 2012 Report Share Posted March 21, 2012 Rabbits love these BGs, they will jump through them all day long ,night time too,now from a rabbits point of view ,what would you try to avoid the most on a galvanised mesh fence? i think its placement every time ,not colour. Quote Link to post
IanB 0 Posted March 21, 2012 Report Share Posted March 21, 2012 We all know you can catch with new snares, no ones saying you can't.. What's getting said is a weathered snare takes no effort and if it improves your success rate when snaring on fences WHY not do it... I've seen rabbits shy off snares, pegandgun has filmed them avoiding snares, trying to duck under them,etc This was in day light, if they can't see them, why would they do this, its nothing to do with scent before it gets mentioned. Quote Link to post
micky 3,325 Posted March 21, 2012 Report Share Posted March 21, 2012 i agree with you Ian but why would a rabbit avoid a snare? whats the threat? is it the tealer? ,to me ,rabbits like wire ,they are jumping through it all day long, look at the picture ,surely from there point of view there is more to fear from a BG than a bit of wire that probably looks like grass, if a rabbit will push through the trigger of a BG surely they would be less uneasy about a fence snare. Quote Link to post
IanB 0 Posted March 21, 2012 Report Share Posted March 21, 2012 There is no tealer, this is snaring on fencelines, like I said in my two previous posts... Whats to say bodygrips DONT get bypassed, snaring on a fence line with holes in rabbit netting is probably the easiest place to set a snare or bodygrip.. It is there only access point most of the time, so they cannot go around it, unlike pig netted fences, etc were they have other options..during the course of a day/night a lot goes on we do not witness, I will place money on it that some rabbits run up to your traps or snares and shy away during this period.. Maybe a minority, but it does happen. Quote Link to post
micky 3,325 Posted March 21, 2012 Report Share Posted March 21, 2012 But why would a rabbit avoid a snare? Quote Link to post
IanB 0 Posted March 21, 2012 Report Share Posted March 21, 2012 Because its an alien object in its world and it can see it...there not all daft, same with any other animal. Be it mole, fox, whatever.. Quote Link to post
THE GRIFF 8 Posted March 21, 2012 Author Report Share Posted March 21, 2012 On 21/03/2012 at 17:26, micky said: But why would a rabbit avoid a snare? I have only been using snares since christmas and as i have already said I could see the footprints in the snow that proved they were avoiding them. Also my little experience has also showed rabbits entering the fence in a new run only a couple of feet away from the snare and stopped using the exististing run where the snare is, unless this was pure coincidence. Quote Link to post
IanB 0 Posted March 21, 2012 Report Share Posted March 21, 2012 Griff, I've snared thousands and I've witnessed it, so has pegandgun, so my minds made up.. maybe not all the time, but it does happen.. Head over to any American trapping site and you will find many animals over there that can become snare shy, from beaver, coyote, etc.. some do see snares... it's off topic, as were talking about rabbits, but animals have a sixth sense sometimes, and I'm 100% sure they do see snares, some do not see them as a threat, like a piece of foilage, grass or whatever, but some do shy from them. Quote Link to post
micky 3,325 Posted March 21, 2012 Report Share Posted March 21, 2012 On 21/03/2012 at 17:21, IanB said: There is no tealer, this is snaring on fencelines, like I said in my two previous posts... Whats to say bodygrips DONT get bypassed, snaring on a fence line with holes in rabbit netting is probably the easiest place to set a snare or bodygrip.. It is there only access point most of the time, so they cannot go around it..during the course of a day/night a lot goes on we do not witness, I will place money on it that some rabbits run up to your traps or snares and shy away during this period.. Maybe a minority, but it does happen. I think Charles Darwin would argue that the minority would have to become the majority by natural selection ,however how many people must have seen rabbits hit a long net and bounce off, time and time again or be out lamping and seeing them hit a rabbit proof fence till there to stunned to move, it would be nice to see some night vision film of rabbits actually going through the fences just to see what is happening Quote Link to post
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