Collie lurcher lines. . . .

[stewie 3,387]

Cheers mate! I guess that not one single person on here owns a collie lurcher that wasnt bred by hancock, that is any good. . . . .

 

Bryn 1x collie grey (not) hancock , 5 in sep great rabbit dog day+night

 

 

you should put him up for stud mate imo!!! do the collie world a favor

[Tiny 7 1,694]

Id think Bryn would be nice over a Sal/Gh/Coursing type bitch something id like for all ediable quarry....

[suffolkpoacher 219]

if you want an f1 genuin first cross, collie/grey,,, then bryn is your dog,,,,, if you want lurcher with a good chunk of collie,, then use don............simples,,, well provided either owner will let you use said dogs as a stud..

 

there are a few others about,,, but as they havent replyed yet,,, ile leave it at that

There are other collie based dogs on here that are as good

 

well to know that for shure you would have had to have seen them all work,,,have you seen don work??? no course not..

 

now i have seen some others work i know a very deacent david james bred animal,,, but its a bitch.... i can only coment on the dogs i have seen ,,, or that other lads i trust have said ,,its a good dog...

 

what your doing is speculating,,,, now whilst im shure there are dogs out there as good,, i dont know it for a fact

No I have not seen don work but he would not suit the ground we run any way,I'm just saying I know there is more then them that are decent animals worth breeding off from what I have seen first hand atb

[TOMO 27,272]

if you want an f1 genuin first cross, collie/grey,,, then bryn is your dog,,,,, if you want lurcher with a good chunk of collie,, then use don............simples,,, well provided either owner will let you use said dogs as a stud..

 

there are a few others about,,, but as they havent replyed yet,,, ile leave it at that

There are other collie based dogs on here that are as good

 

well to know that for shure you would have had to have seen them all work,,,have you seen don work??? no course not..

 

now i have seen some others work i know a very deacent david james bred animal,,, but its a bitch.... i can only coment on the dogs i have seen ,,, or that other lads i trust have said ,,its a good dog...

 

what your doing is speculating,,,, now whilst im shure there are dogs out there as good,, i dont know it for a fact

No I have not seen don work but he would not suit the ground we run any way,I'm just saying I know there is more then them that are decent animals worth breeding off from what I have seen first hand atb

 

 

im quite certain, that birds dog bryn has been down sufolk/norfolk border,, and had a few deacent scores..

 

but if you know of some good collie croses,, get them up,,, thats exactly what this thread is about,,,

nobody denying there arent good dogs out there besides the two i have mentioned,,, but as the op has said if nobody tells us about them,,, then how are we to know,,, or make a choise between the difrent dogs availble.

[Ideation 8,216]

I'm glad i started this post! It's had some interesting replies.

 

I'm interested in ANY consistent line of collie based lurcher x lurcher dogs that are doing the biz, regardless of what they are called, who owns them or where they are from.

 

It's all very well saying, they are out there but kept highly secret and spoken of / shown to no one - but lets be honest, that's f**k all use to me, is it??? If there is no way of me finding out about them, then they might a well not exist (for me).

 

After writing this - i realise that tomo has written the same above, so at least someone is on the same wave length.

 

And whilst i agree that bryn is top quality, at least from the pictures i have seen, as i have not really seen him work in the flesh (have seen him for a walk out), he isnt bred from a long line of 'hunting' dogs, he's bred from a collie and a grey. Not that there is owt wrong with that, but not quite what i was speaking of in this thread.

 

Having said that, i would be interested to see what came out of him, if he was put over a bitch that was lurcher x lurcher bred, but wa effectivly a 3/4 bred, fast dog. The resulting pups, being 5/8 3/8 roughly, if they threw strong enough etc, could be mustard.

 

Part of my reasoning for looking for lurcher x lurcher rather than 1st x etc, is that in my limited experiance and opinion, i believe it cuts down on the chance of the pups throwing up too many annoying 'collie' traits etc. WHilst keeping the really positive traits.

[old real tree 92]

goog luck finding a pup mate, not going to be easy...

[bunnys 1,228]

good luck ideation i your serch nd can well understand what your looking for . atb bunnys.

[stewie 3,387]

an old collie whippet x saluki grey bitch i owned few years ago!! a good little bitch bred out of local(ish) dogs and no special names in her make up and most defo nothing to do with hancock!!! the collie side in her was a working red merle farm collie dog in the derbyshire dales

 

she was a good working bitch but was to much for me to handle, always needing reassuring and you shout at the other dogs and thats it she was a nervous wreak all day!!! but on the lamp she was dynamite!! had some real good nights with her and she made a good bull cross look stupid on one occasion ill never forget!! i passed her on to an old guy who worked her on her own in the day/on the lamp and did abit of ferreting with her and it suited her better than being out with a rowdy terrier and my young bull cross pup, she was just not my type of dog even tho you couldnt really fault her at anything!! i recently heard she broke her neck while running a hare that accidently got up while out exercising RIP girl

 

good lines are out there jai, just as with any cross mate and imo using this place as your starting point is your first mistake!!! most people with the best dogs dont even know how to switch a computer on, never mind waste valuable hunting time on one the shows are coming up now mate so get yourself round all the local ones and meet as many people as you can with the type of dog you want as someone somewhere will get you on the right track

 

bird get bryn in the stud section mate, you will always regret it if you never have a litter off him

 

a couple of him and my bitch on that mooch round near yours!!

theres defo one at home

and one of him and the bluehound!! not sure who that old rouge holding them is tho

 

good luck in your search tho jai,good things come to those who wait

Edited March 18, 2012 by lurcher1

[bunnys 1,228]

the beauty of brin with being a f1 to saluki types or just about anymixed bred type he will have a leveling affect on the litter has a whole . like in all some traits can be come undesireable some believe one only neds a blink of collie in there type , well this would be the animal to use . several seasons under his belt gives ya a true picture ot the animal on the whole robust working brain , just about fits the bill . one can see the likeability in this animal pls he has a decent old school handler who does not blow his horn about the abilitys of the animal .,infact quite the opposite , bets are he will be a producer on decent bitches . atb bunnys.

[frankel 2,123]

Some good reads..

 

I hope you can get a pup sorted soon mate

[sams-man 44]

the beauty of brin with being a f1 to saluki types or just about anymixed bred type he will have a leveling affect on the litter has a whole . like in all some traits can be come undesireable some believe one only neds a blink of collie in there type , well this would be the animal to use . several seasons under his belt gives ya a true picture ot the animal on the whole robust working brain , just about fits the bill . one can see the likeability in this animal pls he has a decent old school handler who does not blow his horn about the abilitys of the animal .,infact quite the opposite , bets are he will be a producer on decent bitches . atb bunnys.

probably be a good dog in his own right but to say this man doesnt blow his own horn is a joke,this man does nothing but blow his own horn,hes goes overboard with his praise of his own dog, he detracts from his dogs abilities with his constant bragging, any moochers member will tell you the same

Edited March 18, 2012 by sams-man

[stewie 3,387]

the beauty of brin with being a f1 to saluki types or just about anymixed bred type he will have a leveling affect on the litter has a whole . like in all some traits can be come undesireable some believe one only neds a blink of collie in there type , well this would be the animal to use . several seasons under his belt gives ya a true picture ot the animal on the whole robust working brain , just about fits the bill . one can see the likeability in this animal pls he has a decent old school handler who does not blow his horn about the abilitys of the animal .,infact quite the opposite , bets are he will be a producer on decent bitches . atb bunnys.

probably be a good dog in his own right but to say this man doesnt blow his own horn is a joke,this man does nothing but blow his own horn,hes goes overboard with his praise of his own dog, he detracts from his dogs abilities with his constant bragging, any moochers member will tell you the same

theres always one

[poacher3161 1,766]

the beauty of brin with being a f1 to saluki types or just about anymixed bred type he will have a leveling affect on the litter has a whole . like in all some traits can be come undesireable some believe one only neds a blink of collie in there type , well this would be the animal to use . several seasons under his belt gives ya a true picture ot the animal on the whole robust working brain , just about fits the bill . one can see the likeability in this animal pls he has a decent old school handler who does not blow his horn about the abilitys of the animal .,infact quite the opposite , bets are he will be a producer on decent bitches . atb bunnys.

Totally agree.A lot of the lurchers i have seen [bANNED TEXT] two first crosses have been bred the resulting dogs have been far more versatile than both first cross perants.

[sams-man 44]

the beauty of brin with being a f1 to saluki types or just about anymixed bred type he will have a leveling affect on the litter has a whole . like in all some traits can be come undesireable some believe one only neds a blink of collie in there type , well this would be the animal to use . several seasons under his belt gives ya a true picture ot the animal on the whole robust working brain , just about fits the bill . one can see the likeability in this animal pls he has a decent old school handler who does not blow his horn about the abilitys of the animal .,infact quite the opposite , bets are he will be a producer on decent bitches . atb bunnys.

probably be a good dog in his own right but to say this man doesnt blow his own horn is a joke,this man does nothing but blow his own horn,hes goes overboard with his praise of his own dog, he detracts from his dogs abilities with his constant bragging, any moochers member will tell you the same

theres always one

ooooops so sorry to upset you !!!!..heres me thinking it was an open forum & as long as its within the sites rules you can say what you like, damn looks like im wrong.

[pipa 299]

Not at all mate, i wasn't suggesting that the ideal dog for me was just collie / grey hound mix, but a lurcher to lurcher line that was throwing collie lurcher types. If that makes sense.

Yes mate it does make sense i understand wat your saying.The line i had for years collie blood was on both sides of the breeding but tbh i think the beddy in them made a difference.

ive lined my 21" 3/4 beddy whipp bitch to 5/8 3/8 collie grey 25" hopeing to get a decent bitch pup to make 23"? should make handy dogs

chris