morton 5,368 Posted March 14, 2012 Report Share Posted March 14, 2012 If your struggling to source a lurcher over there,why not start a line from scratch,yes you will need to source a decent type Greyhound as a base line,your chosen quarry and terrain will have a bigger bearing on the cross you use,than anything else.Only when there are other suitable dogs at your disposal,will you have the luxury of Crossing lurcher to lurcher to further the lineage,until then the Greyhound,as it always as done,will play an important part in the development of the lurcher. 1 Quote Link to post
Gin 498 Posted March 14, 2012 Author Report Share Posted March 14, 2012 Its not me, and they only want one dog,- not a breeding programme. Thanks Quote Link to post
speedie 329 Posted March 14, 2012 Report Share Posted March 14, 2012 That greyhound blood aint no good for huntin dogs. I will argue that point til I'm blue in the face. Nobody has shown me yet that I am wrong bout that. I've heard all the talk but none of it has been shown to me in any way. Cant agree with yea more pal greyhounds have to be the most over breed in breed lod of shite on the planet at the min.To conpare any greyhound cross to a true breed lurcher is a joke IMHO Quote Link to post
kanigra 110 Posted March 15, 2012 Report Share Posted March 15, 2012 How is greyhound blood no good in hunting dogs mate ? Ive seen greyhound base lurchers do serious work , i know of a bull/wheaton/greyhound that will take red stags single handed , if thats not a hunting dog i dont know what is Cheers Trinder Red stags single handed!!! :hmm: I've heard it all! Quote Link to post
lietome 138 Posted March 15, 2012 Report Share Posted March 15, 2012 That greyhound blood aint no good for huntin dogs. I will argue that point til I'm blue in the face. Nobody has shown me yet that I am wrong bout that. I've heard all the talk but none of it has been shown to me in any way. Cant agree with yea more pal greyhounds have to be the most over breed in breed lod of shite on the planet at the min.To conpare any greyhound cross to a true breed lurcher is a joke IMHO the greyhound is about the only dog that doesnt carry faults an ideal choice to add to any breed Quote Link to post
chartpolski 24,453 Posted March 15, 2012 Report Share Posted March 15, 2012 I like pleanty of Greyhound in my Lurchers, as I like them to have speed ! But, I must admit, it's getting harder to find the right "type" of Greyhound. It's a fact that Non-Ped Whippets are as fast or faster over the shorter distances than all but the very best Greyhounds. And is there any real "Coursing" Greyhounds left since the ban ? I discount Irish Coursing, as "Park Coursing" isn't a patch on real coursing ! Don't the coursing lads still add Pure Greyhound blood to their lines when they need a bit more speed, or pure Saluki blood when they want more wind ?? I agree with "Lurcher x Lurcher", but I still think there is a place for Pures. Cheers. Quote Link to post
stevemac 442 Posted March 15, 2012 Report Share Posted March 15, 2012 I know what you're saying Dan. I've had Saluki types, very agile and supple, run woods with no problems at all. I've also lost two from broken backs when they hit trees. They were very fast, up and at 'em types. More greyhound than anything else. I think common sense plays a big part in it, and dogs with tunnel vision and no sense of self preservation are more likely to kill themselves. Even my sensible dogs regularly come back from the woods with big green smears on their shoulders or flanks where they've scraped against trees and they're often a bit stiff and sore for a few days afterwards. Just my experiences. I kmow what you are both saying I I raise my dogs running through the scrub before they are fast enough to hurt them selves and they seem to learn from it and pic when they are going to put the hammer down a mate of mine raises his dogs in the wide open spaces and has lost a dog chasing fox through a tree stands. As you say though Skycat they can be injured Ive had a couple stake them selves can be expensive. Quote Link to post
speedie 329 Posted March 15, 2012 Report Share Posted March 15, 2012 (edited) IMO its the shape of the dog that will produce the speed as for greyhounds alot of them have even lost their shape now maybe 30 years ago would have been something in using a greyhound but they have very little if anything to offer in a lurcher now.Their was a topic on here not that long ago with a coursing meet on it in the final one dog stoped after about 2 bends and the other dog turned up side down after runing another 100 yards or so if any other dog had as little to offer they would never be breed of .Their are lots of lurchers out their with nice shape and good blood in them that can be breed from even if they dident make it a lot of failed dogs can be put down to the owner and not the dog again IMHO Edited March 15, 2012 by speedie Quote Link to post
GrCh 856 Posted March 15, 2012 Report Share Posted March 15, 2012 rather have greyhound in the blood of my dog then saluki any day of the week. 1 Quote Link to post
skycat 6,173 Posted March 15, 2012 Report Share Posted March 15, 2012 rather have greyhound in the blood of my dog then saluki any day of the week. why not a bit of both? Seriously, a dash of Saluki does, in my experience, make for a dog with a good instinct for self preservation and much greater agility than the muscled speedster which is the Greyhound. Not so much Saluki as to lose the speed, but enough to add the traits which. The only dog I never worried about in woodland was nearly pure Saluki: she could stick on the tail of large game, leaping fallen branches and avoiding trees like nothing I've seen until the big dog I have now, who is also mostly Saluki. I know that they're not everyone's cup of tea, but they certainly don't come a cropper in woods like Greyhound types. Quote Link to post
GrCh 856 Posted March 15, 2012 Report Share Posted March 15, 2012 rather have greyhound in the blood of my dog then saluki any day of the week. why not a bit of both? Seriously, a dash of Saluki does, in my experience, make for a dog with a good instinct for self preservation and much greater agility than the muscled speedster which is the Greyhound. Not so much Saluki as to lose the speed, but enough to add the traits which. The only dog I never worried about in woodland was nearly pure Saluki: she could stick on the tail of large game, leaping fallen branches and avoiding trees like nothing I've seen until the big dog I have now, who is also mostly Saluki. I know that they're not everyone's cup of tea, but they certainly don't come a cropper in woods like Greyhound types. lol Saluki's are just not a dog for me mate comes down to preference thats all. Quote Link to post
Dan Edwards 1,134 Posted March 15, 2012 Report Share Posted March 15, 2012 All I can say is look at the daughers of seagull thread. You want speed, get it there. Quote Link to post
The Duncan 802 Posted March 15, 2012 Report Share Posted March 15, 2012 The more I read, the more I learn and the more I learn that I don't know! Quote Link to post
BEARINATOR 2,872 Posted March 15, 2012 Report Share Posted March 15, 2012 I like pleanty of Greyhound in my Lurchers, as I like them to have speed ! But, I must admit, it's getting harder to find the right "type" of Greyhound. It's a fact that Non-Ped Whippets are as fast or faster over the shorter distances than all but the very best Greyhounds. And is there any real "Coursing" Greyhounds left since the ban ? I discount Irish Coursing, as "Park Coursing" isn't a patch on real coursing ! Don't the coursing lads still add Pure Greyhound blood to their lines when they need a bit more speed, or pure Saluki blood when they want more wind ?? I agree with "Lurcher x Lurcher", but I still think there is a place for Pures. Cheers. There is still a few of us using pure greys , I've had 1 of mine out with a few lads off the site Quote Link to post
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