Lurchers in USA

[Gin 498]

I have friends in America, just moved into a trailer,- they call it a trailer, its 14ft x 70ft just outside Roseville, Ohio. In the middle of woodland, its a fantasic hunting area. They were thinking of getting a beagle, but the more i told them about lurchers, thats what they have decided on, but can't find any in that area. Would any of our American friends be able to help.

I tried to put this in the wanted section, but it won't let me ?

They are great people and he ( called Bear ) is very keen on hunting, and shooting.

They don't have the internet or phone set up yet in the trailer, so i have to contact them via their work internet.

If you can help, can you pm me.

Thanks all

Dave

[Gin 498]

I was thinking something along the lines of a deerhound X

[bird 9,970]

the staghounds over there seem popular, Dan of here prob his the best to talk about running dogs over there..!

[Gin 498]

OK Thanks

[skycat 6,173]

Woodland is a dangerous place for lurchers to run in. I'd be advising them to get something slower, more of a scent hound type dog. Fast dogs often don't live long if they're running stuff through woods.

[Dan Edwards 1,134]

skycat,

 

I dont wanna sound like an argumentative f**k but I run my dogs in the woods all the time and I know others that do the same. I aint sayin they are all suited for it but I dont want the ones that cant handle it. I've had quite a few of them that couldnt do it but I wont keep that kind. That being said maybe my shit eaters aint as fast as them "lurchers" you speak of.

[skycat 6,173]

I know what you're saying Dan. I've had Saluki types, very agile and supple, run woods with no problems at all. I've also lost two from broken backs when they hit trees. They were very fast, up and at 'em types. More greyhound than anything else. I think common sense plays a big part in it, and dogs with tunnel vision and no sense of self preservation are more likely to kill themselves. Even my sensible dogs regularly come back from the woods with big green smears on their shoulders or flanks where they've scraped against trees and they're often a bit stiff and sore for a few days afterwards. Just my experiences.

[Dan Edwards 1,134]

That greyhound blood aint no good for huntin dogs. I will argue that point til I'm blue in the face. Nobody has shown me yet that I am wrong bout that. I've heard all the talk but none of it has been shown to me in any way.

[trinder 127]

How is greyhound blood no good in hunting dogs mate ? Ive seen greyhound base lurchers do serious work , i know of a bull/wheaton/greyhound that will take red stags single handed , if thats not a hunting dog i dont know what is

Cheers Trinder

[HALTY LAD 92]

All I can say, is that mine work all the land that Ive got, and lots of it is steep wooded ravines, cliff faces, rock piles, on the hills and mountains of Scotland, add dense young forestry to that list! My longdogs hunt all this land daily.. they are probably similar in size and look to your coyote dogs, like big rough longdogs, bred worker to worker for longer than Ive been breathing. NO way in hell would pure greyhound EVER be added to these dogs, that would ruin them in my honest opinion. They are fast enough without being made into fragile suicide missiles.

[Dan Edwards 1,134]

All I can say, is that mine work all the land that Ive got, and lots of it is steep wooded ravines, cliff faces, rock piles, on the hills and mountains of Scotland, add dense young forestry to that list! My longdogs hunt all this land daily.. they are probably similar in size and look to your coyote dogs, like big rough longdogs, bred worker to worker for longer than Ive been breathing. NO way in hell would pure greyhound EVER be added to these dogs, that would ruin them in my honest opinion. They are fast enough without being made into fragile suicide missiles.

 

You get it partner. Great post.

[Dan Edwards 1,134]

How is greyhound blood no good in hunting dogs mate ? Ive seen greyhound base lurchers do serious work , i know of a bull/wheaton/greyhound that will take red stags single handed , if thats not a hunting dog i dont know what is

Cheers Trinder

 

Thats one hell of a dog right there. I'd love to see that someday. I stand by what I said though. Using a modern day greyhound in your breeding is going backwards and fast.

[bird 9,970]

How is greyhound blood no good in hunting dogs mate ? Ive seen greyhound base lurchers do serious work , i know of a bull/wheaton/greyhound that will take red stags single handed , if thats not a hunting dog i dont know what is

Cheers Trinder

 

Thats one hell of a dog right there. I'd love to see that someday. I stand by what I said though. Using a modern day greyhound in your breeding is going backwards and fast.

yes to a point Dan, but to start any line of lurchers or stags , you had to start with greyhound to get a 1x grey to what ever, and go from there .But if your lines keep speed, wind+agilty with out the added grey well fair enough .

[Dan Edwards 1,134]

Its 2012 bird. I would have thought people would have got the point maybe in the early 80s that greyhound blood is no longer needed and actually detrimental to your hunting dogs.

[the big chief 3,099]

I was thinking something along the lines of a deerhound X

dave platts sells a few to usa if that helpps gin