Nuttal Lines

[moss 70]

Don't know what happened above

 

Yes as said already 30 years ago his dogs were the nuts I don't believe he sent his best bred stock abroad for good money because of his name dogs will sell its like Hancock lurchurs they all knock them no one wants them but he had 4 litters 2 weeks ago I rang him last weekend and all are sold at 250 each so there is the demand still, trouble is people coming into the sport now read the books nuttall this nuttall that and straight away they want a nuttall go and buy one and expect because it has a name with a money back guarantee it will GRAFT

[ferret1988 20]

Someone i no has one, a dog that is and its totally crackers not much good with other dogs but does the job which is all you want really if ya buying it for that purpose which he was.

[foy 15]

Exactly my point, how can a true terrier man breed from returned failures! No matter what the animal you don't breed from quitters or terriers not tried and tested! By way i am no expert but no idiot neither! Have a mate who dealt with nuttal and being young and new to game was taken in, lost few quid and years trying to get gold from lead,

 

By they way show me some speed we don't work your native quarry , different ball game altogether and that's why in USA terriermen over there have respect for nuttal but true working terrier men here have no respect or a kennel of so called true workers due to piss poor breeding coupled with no or lack of testing! Odd workers may still be found but it is questionable about their blood! But people still use nuttal as a name phrase to explain the blood line or for them to look good or appear to look good by stating breed history bit like Middleton and the rest of the phoney brigade like the Russell firm with their pedigree names! Yeh yeh!

[the_stig 6,614]

love em or hate em the likes of gould middleton or nuttal -- going by some the threads on here these pensioners are still generating interest good or bad after 50 odd years in the game ..

[gonetoearth 5,144]

love em or hate em the likes of gould middleton or nuttal -- going by some the threads on here these pensioners are still generating interest good or bad after 50 odd years in the game ..

stig no one going to replace them eh lol

[the_stig 6,614]

love em or hate em the likes of gould middleton or nuttal -- going by some the threads on here these pensioners are still generating interest good or bad after 50 odd years in the game ..

stig no one going to replace them eh lol

cant see it --

[spindolero 1,110]

love em or hate em the likes of gould middleton or nuttal -- going by some the threads on here these pensioners are still generating interest good or bad after 50 odd years in the game ..

stig no one going to replace them eh lol

cant see it --

seriously though Stig, as an old 'un - do you think it was easier to do a lot more work back then with ones terriers?

[the_stig 6,614]

love em or hate em the likes of gould middleton or nuttal -- going by some the threads on here these pensioners are still generating interest good or bad after 50 odd years in the game ..

stig no one going to replace them eh lol

cant see it --

seriously though Stig, as an old 'un - do you think it was easier to do a lot more work back then with ones terriers?

seemed to be a lot more about - some lads these days will have plenty of permission just my view but back then everyone seemed to want you -- farmers shoots landowners keepers hunts -- you could be out 7 days a week then there was the other fella you could dig -- turn up now to get a bit of ratting and half of em dont want to know times have changed and so have landowners views on having you mooching about ... . this is why i say about the likes of gould nuttal middleton where else could you go buy a terrier saturday morning and dig over it saturday afternoon they may of sold a bit of shite they may of made a few quid out the job so what they were all around at a time imo when the terrier game needed men like them -- i`m sure the likes of will never be seen again . Edited September 10, 2012 by the_stig

[spindolero 1,110]

i suppose the other way of looking at people selling/studding is that it puts a lot of decent blood out where it would never have got. if smithy or spartacus had been kept within a tight circle would it of been to the detriment of the working terrier in the UK overall??.....discuss

[the_stig 6,614]

i suppose the other way of looking at people selling/studding is that it puts a lot of decent blood out where it would never have got. if smithy or spartacus had been kept within a tight circle would it of been to the detriment of the working terrier in the UK overall??.....discuss

i know of dogs that have been kept in tight groups produce a couple litters of 100% grafters some people want to keep what they`ve got to themselves nowt wrong in that ?others the ones i`d call breeders some people call em dealers / peddlers will make a few quid off em, without it being worth while would these dogs have been put out to stud or produced high numbers of pups ? many a terrier made its name as a digging dog without ever producing a single pup..

 

 

 

 

 

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[gonetoearth 5,144]

There are still good terriers and terrier men just who would want to put their head on the block these days look what. Get said about the old fellas. Now ,

[gonetoearth 5,144]

Exactly my point, how can a true terrier man breed from returned failures! No matter what the animal you don't breed from quitters or terriers not tried and tested! By way i am no expert but no idiot neither! Have a mate who dealt with nuttal and being young and new to game was taken in, lost few quid and years trying to get gold from lead,

 

By they way show me some speed we don't work your native quarry , different ball game altogether and that's why in USA terriermen over there have respect for nuttal but true working terrier men here have no respect or a kennel of so called true workers due to piss poor breeding coupled with no or lack of testing! Odd workers may still be found but it is questionable about their blood! But people still use nuttal as a name phrase to explain the blood line or for them to look good or appear to look good by stating breed history bit like Middleton and the rest of the phoney brigade like the Russell firm with their pedigree names! Yeh yeh!

. Middleton a phoney na bud. Just an old man. Who's forgot more. Than most. Who made a shilling or two out of his reputation. Not a murderer or a terriost. Just a TERRIER MAN.

[Moorside 642]

I have to agree with gone to earth 100%, people love to bash the famous names on here. Its like anything in life if you make a few quid there's always someone who wont like it. And ultimately if they sold total shite they would have been found out and many many years ago and we wouldnt even mention em now.

[erik 71]

Yes as said already 30 years ago his dogs were the nuts I don't believe he sent his best bred stock abroad for good money because of his name dogs will sell its like Hancock lurchurs they all knock them no one wants them but he had 4 litters 2 weeks ago I rang him last weekend and all are sold at 250 each so there is the demand still, trouble is people coming into the sport now read the books nuttall this nuttall that and straight away they want a nuttall go and buy one and expect because it has a name with a money back guarantee it will GRAFT

 

 

not all where sold ,,,

 

 

this one was free

[Rabbit Hunter 6,613]

That's definitely one of Brian's new breeds (pugs), seen a few up around here that he's sent up. The one's up here have been tiny, half hearted fox dogs at best.

Edited September 12, 2012 by Rabbit Hunter