Beardie or Border

[johnny boy68 11,726]

Great thread lads and some great posts.

 

Magpie great point about the maturing side of things, I've noticed with the beardie x they can go through a long teenager type stage. Though has you said if your patient you can/do see great dividends.

[KittleRox 2,147]

talking aboot collie curs, Am I allowed in yet ? its fecking freezing oot here

[lurcher330 2,301]

I have never seen a working beardie

[beast 1,884]

Had a beardie x years ago cracking allrounder just stick to beddy xs just now small dogs for the rabbits.Just fancy a beardie x and i think wilson is a small dog just a thought just now atb

 

Wilson is about 2 inches taller than hector

[beast 1,884]

Very interesting topic with some good informative ansewers ,

I remember reading years ago about marc glen (think that was his name ) in EDRD training a beardie cross for old style hunting

Always wonder how the dog came out ? seem to remember the dog been abit hyper , is this the case with alot of collie lurchers or just a myth

 

They are often hyper up to about 18 months, but then a lot of dogs are. they are also a nightmare if you try to keep em kenneled all week aqnd just take em out on a sunday! they really really need to get exercise and stimulation EVERY DAY

[beast 1,884]

i've had beardie first crosses and border crosses, and both can be superb in the right hands. as magpie says beardie crosses can be slow to mature but often with b order crosses you have to hold them back, especially the bitches. if you have the right mentality i dont think it makes much difference which cross you get as you will still make a decent dog out of it. i have to say that the two best collie bred dogs i've ever seen were both a mix of border and beardie, one was from hancocks about twenty or so years ago, cant remember the breeding, and it was uperb. the other i saw working a few times last 2010-2011 winter, and was one of the best dogs i've ever seen. sire was borderxbeardie dam a greyhound

[Dave N 9]

It maybe the pic but that dog looks like it toes out!

Nice looking bitch all the same!

 

Her toes never been out mate, only injury either the two have had was a broken tooth, her feet very tight under the hair.

 

Her feet turn out her mouth is a bit over shot and after a hard day she looks like a bit road kill but I dont mind I bought her to work

[Stabs 3]

One of the down sides to Beardies and Beardie bred lurchers is that they can take a long time to mature mentally. It's nothing for a dog to be well on it's way in to it's third year before they really start to settle into their job. Patients is not something that is very common amongst folk these days, but it's a vital quality required of any would be Beardie lurcher owner.

 

It is vital that you don't do too much too soon with Collie bred dogs.

 

That's very interesting Magpie. I have had bull and wheaten blooded dogs in the past alongside a Beardie cross and the latter was the one I had to use my discretion on in terms of holding her back as she wanted to get amongst at a very early age. The bulls and wheaten blooded dogs switched on comparatively later. It's something that the lurcher owner has to be very careful with as if you are used to dealing with strong dog crosses, they tell you when they're ready and when they do, they generally are. With the collie blooded dogs, they can be telling you they're ready but you as the owner should be exercising your discretion and reading your animal and deciding whether they are or not. I think this is often the reason why some dogs are ruined or over-matched at young ages. Having said all of that this young bloke started single-handed work at a young age and never looked back.

[Flipper_Al 1,012]

talking aboot collie curs, Am I allowed in yet ? its fecking freezing oot here

 

Im still waiting a well

 

Magpie

Can i ask how TTS, your bitch out of Hector is.....?

Edited April 1, 2012 by Flipper_Al

[Magpie 102]

Beast...

 

"They are often hyper up to about 18 months, but then a lot of dogs are. they are also a nightmare if you try to keep em kenneled all week aqnd just take em out on a sunday! they really really need to get exercise and stimulation EVERY DAY."

 

Hyper is not a term I would ever level at a Beardie or a Beardie lurcher. Bull in a china shop or full on yes hyper definitely not. It's a case of engaging the biggest brain in dogdum before steaming in.

 

I firmly agree with your second comment however, but this can apply to any intelligent dog not just Beardies.

Edited April 1, 2012 by Magpie

[Magpie 102]

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[Flipper_Al 1,012]

Tried to pm you earlier, got a message saying you cant receive pm's

[Magpie 102]

One of the down sides to Beardies and Beardie bred lurchers is that they can take a long time to mature mentally. It's nothing for a dog to be well on it's way in to it's third year before they really start to settle into their job. Patients is not something that is very common amongst folk these days, but it's a vital quality required of any would be Beardie lurcher owner.

 

It is vital that you don't do too much too soon with Collie bred dogs.

 

That's very interesting Magpie. I have had bull and wheaten blooded dogs in the past alongside a Beardie cross and the latter was the one I had to use my discretion on in terms of holding her back as she wanted to get amongst at a very early age. The bulls and wheaten blooded dogs switched on comparatively later. It's something that the lurcher owner has to be very careful with as if you are used to dealing with strong dog crosses, they tell you when they're ready and when they do, they generally are. With the collie blooded dogs, they can be telling you they're ready but you as the owner should be exercising your discretion and reading your animal and deciding whether they are or not. I think this is often the reason why some dogs are ruined or over-matched at young ages. Having said all of that this young bloke started single-handed work at a young age and never looked back.

 

I don't think it's a case of not being ready to work most can't wait to get started and can be very full on and as you say you really have to be on the ball and hold them back. It's more a case of engaging the brain. My dog Galan, son to the Beardie pictured in your earlier post, was very keen, too keen in fact which led to silly, school boy errors if you like. It wasn't until he had two full seasons under his belt that he began to settle in to his role. A roll he excels at now. It's kinda like kids running about a football pitch like headless chickens, they are all keen to get stuck in, but can't see the benefit of holding their position and waiting for the opportunity for the ball to come to them. My young bitch is so very much like this. She can be deadly, but sometimes her desire to catch gets in the way of rational thinking.

 

This isn't restricted to Beardie bred dogs though. Any intelligent dog with bags of drive could go through this it'st about striking the right balance between intelligence and drive. Something I believe comes, albeit slowly in some cases, natural to Beardie bred stuff.

[Magpie 102]

Tried to pm you earlier, got a message saying you cant receive pm's

 

Hang on I'll have a look.

[Magpie 102]

I've cleared my in box now so try again fella.