moggy rock 22 Posted March 9, 2012 Report Share Posted March 9, 2012 morn lads,,just want to no if a farmer or land owner could fill a badger set in thats being used,,were i walk my dogs on public foot paths theres a big ditch that runs along the side of it,,theres a 20 hole badger set which i no as been there for longer than 35 years as i use to walk past it when i was young,,i went for a walk yesterday and every hole was filled in freshley with no attempsof the badgers digging out so they might of been gassed..i dont no what the law is on this but they wasnt hurting anyone,,and before anyone says oat im not a do gudder lol,,ive had my fair share of hunting in the good old days but was just a bit peed of yesterday..rant over..lol.. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Paid 935 Posted March 9, 2012 Report Share Posted March 9, 2012 Think you can apply to have problem badgers removed, or eradicated, could of been done legally Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Popular Post Carraghs Gem 1,675 Posted March 9, 2012 Popular Post Report Share Posted March 9, 2012 way i see it, its none of your business, cant even fart on your own land these days without some c**t popping up from behind a hedge and complaining. 21 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
kenny14 656 Posted March 9, 2012 Report Share Posted March 9, 2012 way i see it, its none of your business, cant even fart on your own land these days without some c**t popping up from behind a hedge and complaining. Yes but don't forget that Badgers have more rights and get more protection under the law, than people (except immigrants and asylum seekers) do 8 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
RubyTex 1,957 Posted March 9, 2012 Report Share Posted March 9, 2012 way i see it, its none of your business, cant even fart on your own land these days without some c**t popping up from behind a hedge and complaining. I agree completely, why bother bringing it to attention when it's got nowt to do with you? The builders on this estate dig out the rabbit warrens all the time to lay founds for a new house, it's less sport for me with my ferret but they are the landowners so they can do whatever they fooking want in my opinion! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
rob190364 2,594 Posted March 9, 2012 Report Share Posted March 9, 2012 wouldn't have thought they'd just gas them for no reason, must have been causing damage one way or another or why would they have gone to the effort? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Born Hunter 17,798 Posted March 9, 2012 Report Share Posted March 9, 2012 How do you know the sett was still active? If the sett had been inactive for a period of time then I'm not sure if it would still be protected. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
rob190364 2,594 Posted March 9, 2012 Report Share Posted March 9, 2012 How do you know the sett was still active? If the sett had been inactive for a period of time then I'm not sure if it would still be protected. exactly! surely if it had been inactive for decades it wouldn't even be classed as a set any more would it? surely they don't protect empty holes? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Born Hunter 17,798 Posted March 9, 2012 Report Share Posted March 9, 2012 How do you know the sett was still active? If the sett had been inactive for a period of time then I'm not sure if it would still be protected. exactly! surely if it had been inactive for decades it wouldn't even be classed as a set any more would it? surely they don't protect empty holes? That's my understanding. But if someone found evidence to suggest otherwise, no matter how inconclusive, I would'nt like to be the man responsible for messing with it! If it was inactive then I can understand why a landowner would 'fill it in'. Most farmers want rid (legally of course), never mind encouraging them back with nice big vacant setts! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
R. Docks 154 Posted March 9, 2012 Report Share Posted March 9, 2012 (edited) The law protects them whether they are occupied or not. Any interference is a criminal offence - including filling in holes. Natural England do issue licences in some (rare) circumstances to 'gate' badgers out of their sett and then fill in the holes, but they are only issued from August to October. I'm sure we all symathise with people who have to put up with the disease ridden black and white vermin, but the law is the law. Protection of Badgers Act 1992 Interfering with badger setts. A person is guilty of an offence if, except as permitted by or under this Act, he interferes with a badger sett by doing any of the following things— a. damaging a badger sett or any part of it; b. destroying a badger sett; c. obstructing access to, or any entrance of, a badger sett; d. causing a dog to enter a badger sett; or e. disturbing a badger when it is occupying a badger sett, intending to do any of those things or being reckless as to whether his actions would have any of those consequences. Edited March 9, 2012 by R. Docks Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Born Hunter 17,798 Posted March 9, 2012 Report Share Posted March 9, 2012 The law protects them whether they are occupied or not. Any interference is a criminal offence - including filling in holes. Natural England do issue licences in some (rare) circumstances to 'gate' badgers out of their sett and then fill in the holes, but they are only issued from August to October. I'm sure we all symathise with people who have to put up with the disease ridden black and white vermin, but the law is the law. I'm sure you are right but how could anybody prove it is a badger sett if a badger hasn't used it in 5... 6... 10 years? Is it still classed as a badger sett? What is the deffinition of an unocupied sett? Badgers have been known to use drains, artificials, rabbit warrens, fox earths etc etc. are all these then protected as setts? I suppose my question is, what defines a badger sett? 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
whisperingeye 27 Posted March 9, 2012 Report Share Posted March 9, 2012 theres to many of them about now,there all over here sets are ruining the hedges its time something was done, Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Born Hunter 17,798 Posted March 9, 2012 Report Share Posted March 9, 2012 Protection of Badgers Act 1992 Interfering with badger setts. A person is guilty of an offence if, except as permitted by or under this Act, he interferes with a badger sett by doing any of the following things— a. damaging a badger sett or any part of it; b. destroying a badger sett; c. obstructing access to, or any entrance of, a badger sett; d. causing a dog to enter a badger sett; or e. disturbing a badger when it is occupying a badger sett, intending to do any of those things or being reckless as to whether his actions would have any of those consequences. Thanks for that quote RD. But it doesn't define what a badger sett is or mention anything about being ocupied or otherwise. My interpretation would be that it is only classed as a badger sett if actively being used by them? If a sett has been inactive for a prolonged period then it would no longer be classed as a 'badger sett' and so loose its protected status? Be interesting to see if the law does define its use of the term 'badger sett'.... I haven't a clue where to look? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
R. Docks 154 Posted March 9, 2012 Report Share Posted March 9, 2012 Anything used by a badger could be considered a sett. I do know that there are lots of 'historical setts' known by DEFRA and the antis, and monitored by them. The fact that a sett is unoccupied at the time of interference wouldn't make much difference in this mad world we live in where diseased, overpopulated vermin take priority over common sense. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
The one 8,505 Posted March 9, 2012 Report Share Posted March 9, 2012 Could they not be removed if they where damaging a road etc ?. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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