PENCHECKER 41 Posted March 7, 2012 Report Share Posted March 7, 2012 Hi Does anybody have any advice on which bloodlines of Black Labs are best at working thick cover. I remember my father in law owning a thick set black Lab years ago that would go through anything I think it was a Drakeshead bred dog. I'm after an allrounder and fancy a black Lab, I understand a Spaniel may suit better but would like to know if there are many Labs that can do it all. Any advice gratefully received. Stu Quote Link to post
shotgun tim 27 Posted March 7, 2012 Report Share Posted March 7, 2012 (edited) its all about traning pal iv seen springers that wont go into cover but my chessies do, same with labs start them as a pup throw a dummy in to a bit of semi rough then progress from there Edited March 7, 2012 by shotgun tim Quote Link to post
eli 0 Posted March 7, 2012 Report Share Posted March 7, 2012 some may but not adog for the job Quote Link to post
PENCHECKER 41 Posted March 7, 2012 Author Report Share Posted March 7, 2012 Thanks I'd expect a Lab to face thick cover when retrieving, but it's the drive to hunt up in thick cover I'd like to see. Not sure many Labs have it so might have to get a ESS? Quote Link to post
sibaldib 6 Posted March 7, 2012 Report Share Posted March 7, 2012 Shotgun Tim is right - it's all about the training. Both my small labs were taught from an early age to retrieve from thick cover and bramble. Once they had done a few retrieves, they never thought anything of it. Often on the shoot they would pick up where certain spaniels wouldn't. Sadly I lost both mum and daughter within 7 weeks of each other, recently. Sib Quote Link to post
barraboy 28 Posted March 10, 2012 Report Share Posted March 10, 2012 my mate has a lab that'll work cover very effectively, but she's one of very few that ive seen that can hold a candle to a spaniel. my advice would be avoid trialing lines and find a nice home bred line from a bloke who does a lot of rough shooting with his labs over a couple of generations and it should do ok for you. more reliable option is to get a spaniel but labs will work cover just as spaniels can go wildfowling on the marsh. Quote Link to post
PENCHECKER 41 Posted March 10, 2012 Author Report Share Posted March 10, 2012 Cheers I'll have good look around over the summer. Quote Link to post
Lab 10,979 Posted March 10, 2012 Report Share Posted March 10, 2012 If your going to be working lots of thick cover then get a spaniel. Quote Link to post
GrCh 856 Posted March 10, 2012 Report Share Posted March 10, 2012 If your going to be working lots of thick cover then get a spaniel. I bet that hurt :laugh: Quote Link to post
Rhodey 96 Posted March 10, 2012 Report Share Posted March 10, 2012 Most labs will hit thick cover when there young and eager they soon learn to avoid when they can as they get older. Like others have said springer or cocker would be best suited. Quote Link to post
Dave C 63 Posted March 11, 2012 Report Share Posted March 11, 2012 My Lab bitch is only just over 21" she is off trialing stock which is also worked hard by keepers, which makes her light built and fast. I did all the usuall training until she was 7 months, i then stopped all dummy training and started light rough shooting, all a young lab wants to do is retrieve, but the only way my bitch got a retreive was if she hunted hard and made the fluch for me to shoot. I dont know if this made her keener ( i guess alot was already in her) but she hits cover like a self harmer and when i get complements off lurcher lads when i use her bushing i know she is the business cause them lads respect hard hunting. I now have a dog which can rough shoot, sit in a hide or on a peg and go bushing with a bobbery pack. ATB Dave. 1 Quote Link to post
mickyatch 37 Posted March 12, 2012 Report Share Posted March 12, 2012 most people on hear are speaking sense with the spaniel situation going into cover .... my lab is opf drakeshead and wilson young lines hes a big dog with big feet and a big head and has a thick coat hes coat gets plenty of compliments off guns on different estates saying he has the very old type labrador coat .... he hammers cover if theres birds in there he will also work thick patches of bramble if i send him off to quater but he is NO spaniel at the job with the end of the season now you can tell hes worked hard as his muzzle and around his eyes are covered in small scares off brambles and thorn bushes hope this helps Quote Link to post
PENCHECKER 41 Posted March 13, 2012 Author Report Share Posted March 13, 2012 Thanks Gents for your advice, thinking I'd better try and find a big strain of ESS, but will keep my eyes out for an older Lab which is happy working cover. Quote Link to post
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