dougall 98 Posted March 5, 2012 Report Share Posted March 5, 2012 REVOLT AGAINST THE TORRIE F--KERS Quote Link to post Share on other sites
bryson 562 Posted March 5, 2012 Report Share Posted March 5, 2012 i think its more up to the doctor i have just been signed off work today for possable lung cancer i had testicular cancer about a year and a half ago and i have to go once a month for chest x-rays and ct scans and i got a letter through the door on saturday past saying that i have small spots on both of my lungs now so i have to go for another ct scan so im shiting myself worring if i will have to go through all the shit again now for me to work it would be impossible i cant sleep everything i eat or drink only stays down for 5 mins if im lucky so if this is true then f**k the goverment the stupid twats Quote Link to post Share on other sites
dougall 98 Posted March 5, 2012 Report Share Posted March 5, 2012 f--k what can u say keep your chin up mate all the best Quote Link to post Share on other sites
PlasticJock 539 Posted March 5, 2012 Report Share Posted March 5, 2012 REVOLT AGAINST THE TORRIE F--KERS It won't be long mate.... Russians are doing it, Tunisians, Libyans, Egyptians, Greeks, French, and the rest. People are starting to wake up Funny how the government supports every revolt in every under-developed (oil rich) country, yet the first sign of trouble over here they label everyone ''Thugs''. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
GRAM71 29 Posted March 5, 2012 Report Share Posted March 5, 2012 (edited) i was on the recieving end of this particular "shitty stick" a few years back, during chemo i managed to pick up an infection which ballsed up my aortic valve, requiring emergency surgery for a prosthetic valve, it's not just the tories that screwed up the system, labour had a big part to play too. at the end of the day it's just governments in general, doesn't matter which colours they fly under. they're all a bunch of cnutes bryson, i've just read your post mate, i really hope all goes well for you, sincerely. gram. Edited March 5, 2012 by GRAM71 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Dunkanon 380 Posted March 5, 2012 Author Report Share Posted March 5, 2012 I dont understand the problem ... surely your not saying that just because you have "x" disease, whether you can work or not, you shouldn't have to work... Before any one starts a mate of mine has just been diagnosed with testicular cancer and a couple of people in my family have suffered/died with it. If you cant work then you wont have to ... i know chemo is horrible and if your on it youl never have to work in a million years. The amendment that was proposed was that any one with cancer would automatically be able to claim benefits. Im sure youl agree that there are varying levels of severity regarding cancer, you could be on deaths door or you could have a dodgy spot on your back. Why should some one with relatively mild form of cancer be exempt but some one with a serious heart problem not exempt. If you think your due benefits you should get tested to see if your entitled regardless of disease, regardless of anything. Its the only way to stop scroungers thieving of everyday working people. No i am surely not saying that anyone with "X" disease should be exempt from working wether they are fit to work or not, I am saying that someone who is diagnosed with cancer and in chemo therapy shouldnt have to go along to one of the governments little doctors whos brief it is sign people fit for work wherever possible and therfore reduce payouts. These sick people have to prove the fact that they are not well enough to work, Is it not enough that there will be medical reports from there own specialists and GPs etc that they have to prove it further. Surely anyone recieving chemo therapy is not well enough to work, hence the macmillan cancer trusts stance on the proposal. I am also saying that there is far more scroungers out there immigrant and homegrown who could do without the benefit system which they are bleeding dry...but instead as is typical with a Tory government the people who suffer are the sick,elderly and infirm. Yes i understand that. The amendment had nothing to do with chemo though. It was a blanket statement to do with "cancer". If your not robust with screening people then how do you stop the "scroungers" which we both agree need to be stopped. The last thing either of us want is people who really need help to be made to go out there and work. I dont believe for a second any one who needs it will be made to go out and work for one reason alone ... the sheer PR disaster it would be if you made a chemo patient go to work. The more complicated you make something the more loop holes you create, like if you have cancer you dont have to work which was what the amendment was basically asking for if you read it. Also i think its doing the people who decide who work or not a huge wrong turn if you think that they will just turn people out onto the street in wheel chairs and hospital beds. You do put across a persuasive argument and it makes a change from some of the uneducated opinions that get thrown around on this site and I do agree on some of the points you have raised but not all. cant help wondering if you work for the social security though..... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Dunkanon 380 Posted March 5, 2012 Author Report Share Posted March 5, 2012 i think its more up to the doctor i have just been signed off work today for possable lung cancer i had testicular cancer about a year and a half ago and i have to go once a month for chest x-rays and ct scans and i got a letter through the door on saturday past saying that i have small spots on both of my lungs now so i have to go for another ct scan so im shiting myself worring if i will have to go through all the shit again now for me to work it would be impossible i cant sleep everything i eat or drink only stays down for 5 mins if im lucky so if this is true then f**k the goverment the stupid twats best wishes pal heres wishing you a speedy and succesful recovery hopefully you wont have any problems with your entitlements along the way. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
richc12 84 Posted March 5, 2012 Report Share Posted March 5, 2012 boils my piss this does!!!!! capping benefits to £26.0000 brought in last week.... how about bringing it inline with minimum wage and using the rest to help people battling cancer not insulting them when there fighting for their lives!!! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Buch 145 Posted March 5, 2012 Report Share Posted March 5, 2012 I dont understand the problem ... surely your not saying that just because you have "x" disease, whether you can work or not, you shouldn't have to work... Before any one starts a mate of mine has just been diagnosed with testicular cancer and a couple of people in my family have suffered/died with it. If you cant work then you wont have to ... i know chemo is horrible and if your on it youl never have to work in a million years. The amendment that was proposed was that any one with cancer would automatically be able to claim benefits. Im sure youl agree that there are varying levels of severity regarding cancer, you could be on deaths door or you could have a dodgy spot on your back. Why should some one with relatively mild form of cancer be exempt but some one with a serious heart problem not exempt. If you think your due benefits you should get tested to see if your entitled regardless of disease, regardless of anything. Its the only way to stop scroungers thieving of everyday working people. No i am surely not saying that anyone with "X" disease should be exempt from working wether they are fit to work or not, I am saying that someone who is diagnosed with cancer and in chemo therapy shouldnt have to go along to one of the governments little doctors whos brief it is sign people fit for work wherever possible and therfore reduce payouts. These sick people have to prove the fact that they are not well enough to work, Is it not enough that there will be medical reports from there own specialists and GPs etc that they have to prove it further. Surely anyone recieving chemo therapy is not well enough to work, hence the macmillan cancer trusts stance on the proposal. I am also saying that there is far more scroungers out there immigrant and homegrown who could do without the benefit system which they are bleeding dry...but instead as is typical with a Tory government the people who suffer are the sick,elderly and infirm. Yes i understand that. The amendment had nothing to do with chemo though. It was a blanket statement to do with "cancer". If your not robust with screening people then how do you stop the "scroungers" which we both agree need to be stopped. The last thing either of us want is people who really need help to be made to go out there and work. I dont believe for a second any one who needs it will be made to go out and work for one reason alone ... the sheer PR disaster it would be if you made a chemo patient go to work. The more complicated you make something the more loop holes you create, like if you have cancer you dont have to work which was what the amendment was basically asking for if you read it. Also i think its doing the people who decide who work or not a huge wrong turn if you think that they will just turn people out onto the street in wheel chairs and hospital beds. You do put across a persuasive argument and it makes a change from some of the uneducated opinions that get thrown around on this site and I do agree on some of the points you have raised but not all. cant help wondering if you work for the social security though..... haha no pal. Im just trying to soar like an eagle but its hard when im surrounded by some of these pigeons. My opinions not really educated either i just used spell checker on it before i clicked "Post" . 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
bryson 562 Posted March 6, 2012 Report Share Posted March 6, 2012 cheers for the comments lads its a fecking nightmare i wouldnt wish it on my worst enemy Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Ratreeper 441 Posted March 7, 2012 Report Share Posted March 7, 2012 I dont understand the problem ... surely your not saying that just because you have "x" disease, whether you can work or not, you shouldn't have to work... Before any one starts a mate of mine has just been diagnosed with testicular cancer and a couple of people in my family have suffered/died with it. If you cant work then you wont have to ... i know chemo is horrible and if your on it youl never have to work in a million years. The amendment that was proposed was that any one with cancer would automatically be able to claim benefits. Im sure youl agree that there are varying levels of severity regarding cancer, you could be on deaths door or you could have a dodgy spot on your back. Why should some one with relatively mild form of cancer be exempt but some one with a serious heart problem not exempt. If you think your due benefits you should get tested to see if your entitled regardless of disease, regardless of anything. Its the only way to stop scroungers thieving of everyday working people. No i am surely not saying that anyone with "X" disease should be exempt from working wether they are fit to work or not, I am saying that someone who is diagnosed with cancer and in chemo therapy shouldnt have to go along to one of the governments little doctors whos brief it is sign people fit for work wherever possible and therfore reduce payouts. These sick people have to prove the fact that they are not well enough to work, Is it not enough that there will be medical reports from there own specialists and GPs etc that they have to prove it further. Surely anyone recieving chemo therapy is not well enough to work, hence the macmillan cancer trusts stance on the proposal. I am also saying that there is far more scroungers out there immigrant and homegrown who could do without the benefit system which they are bleeding dry...but instead as is typical with a Tory government the people who suffer are the sick,elderly and infirm. Yes i understand that. The amendment had nothing to do with chemo though. It was a blanket statement to do with "cancer". If your not robust with screening people then how do you stop the "scroungers" which we both agree need to be stopped. The last thing either of us want is people who really need help to be made to go out there and work. I dont believe for a second any one who needs it will be made to go out and work for one reason alone ... the sheer PR disaster it would be if you made a chemo patient go to work. The more complicated you make something the more loop holes you create, like if you have cancer you dont have to work which was what the amendment was basically asking for if you read it. Also i think its doing the people who decide who work or not a huge wrong turn if you think that they will just turn people out onto the street in wheel chairs and hospital beds. I agree with you. My Mum died of cancer when I was about 7, then my dad got cancer (kidney) when I was 13ish, he got a kidney removed and after he recovered a bit wanted to work again. He felt bad because we couldn't afford the school uniform etc on the small amount he was getting and he felt OK to work in an office, he didn't have a physically demanding job. But he wasn't allowed to work because he hadn't been cleared, then years later he was cleared by 5 separate doctors, which still wasn't good enough. But the twist, he had to see a 6th who discovered the cancer hadn't gone but spread to his renal artery which he had another op for and it saved his life. So, I know my point is a mixed one but he still had about 10 years he wanted to be working and couldn't. He is in his 60's now and gone through some shit but he can still walk his dog everyday and mow the lawn etc... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
iworkwhippets 12,535 Posted March 8, 2012 Report Share Posted March 8, 2012 i think its more up to the doctor i have just been signed off work today for possable lung cancer i had testicular cancer about a year and a half ago and i have to go once a month for chest x-rays and ct scans and i got a letter through the door on saturday past saying that i have small spots on both of my lungs now so i have to go for another ct scan so im shiting myself worring if i will have to go through all the shit again now for me to work it would be impossible i cant sleep everything i eat or drink only stays down for 5 mins if im lucky so if this is true then f**k the goverment the stupid twats Only just seen this, So from me, all the very best for your future health Quote Link to post Share on other sites
bryson 562 Posted March 8, 2012 Report Share Posted March 8, 2012 thanks very much mate Quote Link to post Share on other sites
stripes 401 Posted March 8, 2012 Report Share Posted March 8, 2012 Hope everything goes good for you bryson,,, buch not hard to figure out who you vote for. What about uk spending 10 billion on fighting wars in other countries, but they havent got the money to fund hospitals , schools, the elderly are living on a shoestring. in there own country. Feckin disgrace,,, Money to kill ,, no money to live. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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