markdog 18 Posted March 4, 2012 Report Share Posted March 4, 2012 Fairly new to the world of lurchers, but from reading the posts on here it seems when it comes to breeding worker to worker is the way I have owned track dogs in the past and read abit on greyhound breeding and it seems some of the greats of the greyhound world think to much work (racing) can spoil a dogs ability at stud, some success has been had using a full litter brother of good ability over the brother of great ability. does to much work spoil a dog? do they only have so many runs in them? Lurcher breeding apart from the coursing world seems to be a bit " ive got a bitch my mate has a dog lets get some pups" Quote Link to post
RossM 8,149 Posted March 4, 2012 Report Share Posted March 4, 2012 I've got a stud lined up for my bitch, have done for around 3yrs, I was always going to use him providing he proved himself season after season and I have watched him become a well seasoned all rounder and therefore worthy of putting over my bitch, My advise would be plant the seed, watch it grow and develop then when the time is right and it's at it best ad strongest, take the cuttings. Quote Link to post
sowhat 1,572 Posted March 4, 2012 Report Share Posted March 4, 2012 Fairly new to the world of lurchers, but from reading the posts on here it seems when it comes to breeding worker to worker is the way I have owned track dogs in the past and read abit on greyhound breeding and it seems some of the greats of the greyhound world think to much work (racing) can spoil a dogs ability at stud, some success has been had using a full litter brother of good ability over the brother of great ability. does to much work spoil a dog? do they only have so many runs in them? Lurcher breeding apart from the coursing world seems to be a bit " ive got a bitch my mate has a dog lets get some pups" For some maybe, but most people do put alot of thought into their breeding, after all ,if you want a good dog, the breeding as got to be right,otherwise it's a waste of time and effort. 1 Quote Link to post
chartpolski 24,695 Posted March 4, 2012 Report Share Posted March 4, 2012 Sowhat will probably agree with me on this; way back in No-Ped Whippet racing, it WAS the case of putting your nieghbours dog over your bitch, and hoping for the best !! But over the years, bloodlines emerged and people travelled to put the best to the best. The results are there to be seen, now the dogs ar infinitly faster ! I see what you are saying about using a Champions litter mate to breed from, and I tend to agree with you, but if the Champion was available, I would use that, if not, I would use a sibling. Cheers. 3 Quote Link to post
ruby jet 184 Posted March 4, 2012 Report Share Posted March 4, 2012 when i was looking for a stud to use on my bitch 2 years ago i had the dog i thorght was right for the job the dog that was going to bring better feet better coat stamina muscel and hight as well as a good line going back a number of years only to go out with a frend and see his dog of the same size and offerd all of the above and a wee bit more this dog changed my mine right at the very last min but i dident rush into useing him! in fact i posboned the litter for another season so i could see this dog do his job and im so glad now that i did as the pups are showing all the sighns of being good ones !! what im trying to say is just becouse its lurcher to lurcher dont mean any old lurcher will do! do your home work put the time in and above all look at what the stud has to offer and how that will benifit the pups your hopeing to have!............atb rj 2 Quote Link to post
Romany 1,065 Posted March 4, 2012 Report Share Posted March 4, 2012 with my lurchers I was thinking three generations ahead when I bred a litter, mainly because I was looking to keep what I had for my own use..another thing you could do, and I did this a number of times, find out what bred the champion and use that, this dog has proved it can be the co-producer of good dogs, the Champion may not have the ability (genetically) to do this..Dont put too much emphasis on the stud dog either, as most of the top kennels are only as good as their bitches.. 4 Quote Link to post
MikeTheDog 153 Posted March 4, 2012 Report Share Posted March 4, 2012 It can be hit and miss with lurcher to lurcher breeding, unless you've seen your lurchers line over the years/generations you can't be sure what it will throw!.....I have been lucky with my Meg as I know her siblings were of a similar stamp as were the second litter from her parents, Meg produced a well balenced litter litter recently Quote Link to post
chartpolski 24,695 Posted March 4, 2012 Report Share Posted March 4, 2012 Breeding Whippets and Greyhounds can be a lot easier than breeding Lurchers, as you know what you are working with, and the wastage should be a lot less. With Lurchers, the sire may be a top dog, say Beddy/Saluki/Grey, and you put him to, say, a Collie/Whippet/Grey; you now have FIVE different breeds in the offspring, they could, theoreticaly, throw to ANY of the breeds in the mix !! I still think "worker to worker" is the way to go, but at least with 1st crosses, you have a fair idea of what you will get. Cheers. Quote Link to post
Dan Edwards 1,134 Posted March 4, 2012 Report Share Posted March 4, 2012 Tell that to the greyhound boys that breed litter after litter their entire life tryin to get that one dog that is a true winner, cp. 2 Quote Link to post
chartpolski 24,695 Posted March 4, 2012 Report Share Posted March 4, 2012 Tell that to the greyhound boys that breed litter after litter their entire life tryin to get that one dog that is a true winner, cp. Yeah. they have been trying to do this, and that's where the SPEED comes from !! I'm only trying to breed a dog that will do hares, roe, rabbitts..not a dog that will do coyote !! If I was in you situation................I'd be wanting your dogs breed !! Cheers. Quote Link to post
Dan Edwards 1,134 Posted March 4, 2012 Report Share Posted March 4, 2012 You should get over here and run some coyotes with my shit eaters before you say that cp. You might not even like em. Quote Link to post
wi11ow 2,657 Posted March 4, 2012 Report Share Posted March 4, 2012 over the years ive allways looked what the bitch dint have and try and add it BUT as we no its a lot of luck Quote Link to post
chartpolski 24,695 Posted March 4, 2012 Report Share Posted March 4, 2012 You should get over here and run some coyotes with my shit eaters before you say that cp. You might not even like em. You know I'll take you up on that !! I'll see you in Idaho next time I''m out there !! Cheers. Quote Link to post
Romany 1,065 Posted March 4, 2012 Report Share Posted March 4, 2012 over the years ive allways looked what the bitch dint have and try and add it BUT as we no its a lot of luck Luck shouldnt come into breeding, if it did, I would be certainly be shit at it, I have no luck what so ever, if it were raining fannys I would catch wor lasses 2 Quote Link to post
wi11ow 2,657 Posted March 5, 2012 Report Share Posted March 5, 2012 so do you keep the hole litter it must be luck the pup we pick as we dont no what way it has thrown and with what it has speed brains lungs because not all pups are champions so i think its down to luck Quote Link to post
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