breeding, choosing the stud?

[markdog 18]

Fairly new to the world of lurchers, but from reading the posts on here it seems when it comes to breeding worker to worker is the way

I have owned track dogs in the past and read abit on greyhound breeding and it seems some of the greats of the greyhound world think to much work (racing) can spoil a dogs ability at stud, some success has been had using a full litter brother of good ability over the brother of great ability. does to much work spoil a dog? do they only have so many runs in them?

 

Lurcher breeding apart from the coursing world seems to be a bit " ive got a bitch my mate has a dog lets get some pups"

[RossM 8,149]

I've got a stud lined up for my bitch, have done for around 3yrs, I was always going to use him providing he proved himself season after season and I have watched him become a well seasoned all rounder and therefore worthy of putting over my bitch,

 

My advise would be plant the seed, watch it grow and develop then when the time is right and it's at it best ad strongest, take the cuttings.

[sowhat 1,572]

  On 04/03/2012 at 09:55, markdog said:

Fairly new to the world of lurchers, but from reading the posts on here it seems when it comes to breeding worker to worker is the way

I have owned track dogs in the past and read abit on greyhound breeding and it seems some of the greats of the greyhound world think to much work (racing) can spoil a dogs ability at stud, some success has been had using a full litter brother of good ability over the brother of great ability. does to much work spoil a dog? do they only have so many runs in them?

 

Lurcher breeding apart from the coursing world seems to be a bit " ive got a bitch my mate has a dog lets get some pups"

 

For some maybe, but most people do put alot of thought into their breeding, after all ,if you want a good dog, the breeding as got to be right,otherwise it's a waste of time and effort.

[chartpolski 25,123]

Sowhat will probably agree with me on this; way back in No-Ped Whippet racing, it WAS the case of putting your nieghbours dog over your bitch, and hoping for the best !! But over the years, bloodlines emerged and people travelled to put the best to the best. The results are there to be seen, now the dogs ar infinitly faster ! I see what you are saying about using a Champions litter mate to breed from, and I tend to agree with you, but if the Champion was available, I would use that, if not, I would use a sibling.

 

Cheers.

[ruby jet 184]

when i was looking for a stud to use on my bitch 2 years ago i had the dog i thorght was right for the job the dog that was going to bring better feet better coat stamina muscel and hight as well as a good line going back a number of years only to go out with a frend and see his dog of the same size and offerd all of the above and a wee bit more this dog changed my mine right at the very last min but i dident rush into useing him! in fact i posboned the litter for another season so i could see this dog do his job and im so glad now that i did as the pups are showing all the sighns of being good ones !! what im trying to say is just becouse its lurcher to lurcher dont mean any old lurcher will do! do your home work put the time in and above all look at what the stud has to offer and how that will benifit the pups your hopeing to have!............atb rj

[Romany 1,065]

with my lurchers I was thinking three generations ahead when I bred a litter, mainly because I was looking to keep what I had for my own use..another thing you could do, and I did this a number of times, find out what bred the champion and use that, this dog has proved it can be the co-producer of good dogs, the Champion may not have the ability (genetically) to do this..Dont put too much emphasis on the stud dog either, as most of the top kennels are only as good as their bitches..

[MikeTheDog 153]

It can be hit and miss with lurcher to lurcher breeding, unless you've seen your lurchers line over the years/generations you can't be sure what it will throw!.....I have been lucky with my Meg as I know her siblings were of a similar stamp as were the second litter from her parents, Meg produced a well balenced litter litter recently

[chartpolski 25,123]

Breeding Whippets and Greyhounds can be a lot easier than breeding Lurchers, as you know what you are working with, and the wastage should be a lot less. With Lurchers, the sire may be a top dog, say Beddy/Saluki/Grey, and you put him to, say, a Collie/Whippet/Grey; you now have FIVE different breeds in the offspring, they could, theoreticaly, throw to ANY of the breeds in the mix !! I still think "worker to worker" is the way to go, but at least with 1st crosses, you have a fair idea of what you will get.

 

Cheers.

[Dan Edwards 1,134]

Tell that to the greyhound boys that breed litter after litter their entire life tryin to get that one dog that is a true winner, cp.

[chartpolski 25,123]

  On 04/03/2012 at 15:03, Dan Edwards said:

Tell that to the greyhound boys that breed litter after litter their entire life tryin to get that one dog that is a true winner, cp.

 

Yeah. they have been trying to do this, and that's where the SPEED comes from !! I'm only trying to breed a dog that will do hares, roe, rabbitts..not a dog that will do coyote !! If I was in you situation................I'd be wanting your dogs breed !!

 

Cheers.

[Dan Edwards 1,134]

You should get over here and run some coyotes with my shit eaters before you say that cp. You might not even like em.

[wi11ow 2,657]

over the years ive allways looked what the bitch dint have and try and add it BUT as we no its a lot of luck

[chartpolski 25,123]

  On 04/03/2012 at 15:18, Dan Edwards said:

You should get over here and run some coyotes with my shit eaters before you say that cp. You might not even like em.

 

You know I'll take you up on that !! I'll see you in Idaho next time I''m out there !!

 

Cheers.

[Romany 1,065]

  On 04/03/2012 at 15:27, wi11ow said:

over the years ive allways looked what the bitch dint have and try and add it BUT as we no its a lot of luck

 

Luck shouldnt come into breeding, if it did, I would be certainly be shit at it, I have no luck what so ever, if it were raining fannys I would catch wor lasses

[wi11ow 2,657]

so do you keep the hole litter it must be luck the pup we pick as we dont no what way it has thrown and with what it has speed brains lungs because not all pups are champions so i think its down to luck