Catcher 1 639 Posted March 7, 2012 Report Share Posted March 7, 2012 So many poeple with such high moral.My ass.And no i dont do drugs.Like most dabbled at bit in my teens.Just not for me. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Ideation 8,216 Posted March 7, 2012 Report Share Posted March 7, 2012 Paulus----- http://flatearthnews...r-against-drugs i know all that but take ketamin great when used as an animal tranqiliser not so good when taken for a buzz. But ketamin was designed for animals! Each to their own mate, if tobacco was introduced now the government said they'd make it class A straight away. To me it's mostly drug MISUSE. They were mostly designed to do something good, but people misuse them. It's the people that's the problem, not the drug. It's easier to ban objects than deal with the people responsible (for example the gun laws). and therin lies the reason for keeping them illegal. very few people would rob their granny of her wedding ring for a packet of fags. Lets be honest, it is a minority of substnce misusers who commit crime in the form of robbing the helpless, to get their gear. Just as many people, commmit the above crimes, just for cash, which as part of their lifestyle, will go on drink, and fags. There are c**ts in all walks of life, and good folk as well. That goes for the drug world like owt else. Interestingly, there are more 'social' heroin users, i.e those with families, jobs etc, who fund their drug use through thewir wages, than there are down and dirty 'smack rats'. This is way way way too big a topic to discuss tit for tat over a forum, and very emotive. But i would love t sit down with some of you and have a proper chin wag over it, and take you to see some things . . . . ive got a family member who`s an addict ive seen some things mate, ive seen him try to commit suicide 3 times, ive seem him rob his dieing mother, ive seen him try to get himself locked up to try to get off it numerous occasions so sorry mate i would be hard to convince anything other than zero tollerance would work. Well zero tolerance doesnt work does it . . . .. and that my friend is the point. It does not work! So time for a new approach! Why waste money, time and effort fighting a war you are losing, and making things worse, when you can try other approaches. Its like afghan - invade under the guise that it will mean less smack gets to the u.k. It has meant more than ten times the smack has got to our shores. ZERO TOLERANCE DONT WORK. We need to get smart my friend! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
PlasticJock 539 Posted March 7, 2012 Report Share Posted March 7, 2012 If you'd explain it further I'd like to hear it mate... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
paulus 26 Posted March 7, 2012 Report Share Posted March 7, 2012 Paulus----- http://flatearthnews...r-against-drugs i know all that but take ketamin great when used as an animal tranqiliser not so good when taken for a buzz. But ketamin was designed for animals! Each to their own mate, if tobacco was introduced now the government said they'd make it class A straight away. To me it's mostly drug MISUSE. They were mostly designed to do something good, but people misuse them. It's the people that's the problem, not the drug. It's easier to ban objects than deal with the people responsible (for example the gun laws). and therin lies the reason for keeping them illegal. very few people would rob their granny of her wedding ring for a packet of fags. Lets be honest, it is a minority of substnce misusers who commit crime in the form of robbing the helpless, to get their gear. Just as many people, commmit the above crimes, just for cash, which as part of their lifestyle, will go on drink, and fags. There are c**ts in all walks of life, and good folk as well. That goes for the drug world like owt else. Interestingly, there are more 'social' heroin users, i.e those with families, jobs etc, who fund their drug use through thewir wages, than there are down and dirty 'smack rats'. This is way way way too big a topic to discuss tit for tat over a forum, and very emotive. But i would love t sit down with some of you and have a proper chin wag over it, and take you to see some things . . . . ive got a family member who`s an addict ive seen some things mate, ive seen him try to commit suicide 3 times, ive seem him rob his dieing mother, ive seen him try to get himself locked up to try to get off it numerous occasions so sorry mate i would be hard to convince anything other than zero tollerance would work. Well zero tolerance doesnt work does it . . . .. and that my friend is the point. It does not work! So time for a new approach! Why waste money, time and effort fighting a war you are losing, and making things worse, when you can try other approaches. Its like afghan - invade under the guise that it will mean less smack gets to the u.k. It has meant more than ten times the smack has got to our shores. ZERO TOLERANCE DONT WORK. We need to get smart my friend! we need to get real hearts and minds is short for turn a blind eye, double standards mate as i keep saying world politics Quote Link to post Share on other sites
PlasticJock 539 Posted March 7, 2012 Report Share Posted March 7, 2012 http://www.telegraph.co.uk/comment/personal-view/5341903/Labours-phoney-war-on-drugs-has-failed.html Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Ideation 8,216 Posted March 7, 2012 Report Share Posted March 7, 2012 Paulus----- http://flatearthnews...r-against-drugs i know all that but take ketamin great when used as an animal tranqiliser not so good when taken for a buzz. But ketamin was designed for animals! Each to their own mate, if tobacco was introduced now the government said they'd make it class A straight away. To me it's mostly drug MISUSE. They were mostly designed to do something good, but people misuse them. It's the people that's the problem, not the drug. It's easier to ban objects than deal with the people responsible (for example the gun laws). and therin lies the reason for keeping them illegal. very few people would rob their granny of her wedding ring for a packet of fags. Lets be honest, it is a minority of substnce misusers who commit crime in the form of robbing the helpless, to get their gear. Just as many people, commmit the above crimes, just for cash, which as part of their lifestyle, will go on drink, and fags. There are c**ts in all walks of life, and good folk as well. That goes for the drug world like owt else. Interestingly, there are more 'social' heroin users, i.e those with families, jobs etc, who fund their drug use through thewir wages, than there are down and dirty 'smack rats'. This is way way way too big a topic to discuss tit for tat over a forum, and very emotive. But i would love t sit down with some of you and have a proper chin wag over it, and take you to see some things . . . . ive got a family member who`s an addict ive seen some things mate, ive seen him try to commit suicide 3 times, ive seem him rob his dieing mother, ive seen him try to get himself locked up to try to get off it numerous occasions so sorry mate i would be hard to convince anything other than zero tollerance would work. Well zero tolerance doesnt work does it . . . .. and that my friend is the point. It does not work! So time for a new approach! Why waste money, time and effort fighting a war you are losing, and making things worse, when you can try other approaches. Its like afghan - invade under the guise that it will mean less smack gets to the u.k. It has meant more than ten times the smack has got to our shores. ZERO TOLERANCE DONT WORK. We need to get smart my friend! we need to get real hearts and minds is short for turn a blind eye, double standards mate You have lost me? Anyway, i'm off to smoke my crack pipe and eat a curry with the missus and dog 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
1Wally 204 Posted March 7, 2012 Report Share Posted March 7, 2012 Paulus----- http://flatearthnews...r-against-drugs i know all that but take ketamin great when used as an animal tranqiliser not so good when taken for a buzz. But ketamin was designed for animals! Each to their own mate, if tobacco was introduced now the government said they'd make it class A straight away. To me it's mostly drug MISUSE. They were mostly designed to do something good, but people misuse them. It's the people that's the problem, not the drug. It's easier to ban objects than deal with the people responsible (for example the gun laws). and therin lies the reason for keeping them illegal. very few people would rob their granny of her wedding ring for a packet of fags. Lets be honest, it is a minority of substnce misusers who commit crime in the form of robbing the helpless, to get their gear. Just as many people, commmit the above crimes, just for cash, which as part of their lifestyle, will go on drink, and fags. There are c**ts in all walks of life, and good folk as well. That goes for the drug world like owt else. Interestingly, there are more 'social' heroin users, i.e those with families, jobs etc, who fund their drug use through thewir wages, than there are down and dirty 'smack rats'. This is way way way too big a topic to discuss tit for tat over a forum, and very emotive. But i would love t sit down with some of you and have a proper chin wag over it, and take you to see some things . . . . ive got a family member who`s an addict ive seen some things mate, ive seen him try to commit suicide 3 times, ive seem him rob his dieing mother, ive seen him try to get himself locked up to try to get off it numerous occasions so sorry mate i would be hard to convince anything other than zero tollerance would work. Well zero tolerance doesnt work does it . . . .. and that my friend is the point. It does not work! So time for a new approach! Why waste money, time and effort fighting a war you are losing, and making things worse, when you can try other approaches. Its like afghan - invade under the guise that it will mean less smack gets to the u.k. It has meant more than ten times the smack has got to our shores. ZERO TOLERANCE DONT WORK. We need to get smart my friend! we need to get real hearts and minds is short for turn a blind eye, double standards mate You have lost me? Anyway, i'm off to smoke my crack pipe and eat a curry with the missus and dog Really? Crack puts me right off my food! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
1Wally 204 Posted March 7, 2012 Report Share Posted March 7, 2012 I have lived a very sheltered life so an explanation would be nice if you can give one, one that's a little better than we can't stop it so we may as well say its ok!!! You can't stop people murdering their wife buts it's hardly a case for making it legal is it! Hmmm worth thinking about though. Killing your wife?? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
WILF 46,769 Posted March 7, 2012 Report Share Posted March 7, 2012 Paulus----- http://flatearthnews...r-against-drugs i know all that but take ketamin great when used as an animal tranqiliser not so good when taken for a buzz. But ketamin was designed for animals! Each to their own mate, if tobacco was introduced now the government said they'd make it class A straight away. To me it's mostly drug MISUSE. They were mostly designed to do something good, but people misuse them. It's the people that's the problem, not the drug. It's easier to ban objects than deal with the people responsible (for example the gun laws). and therin lies the reason for keeping them illegal. very few people would rob their granny of her wedding ring for a packet of fags. Lets be honest, it is a minority of substnce misusers who commit crime in the form of robbing the helpless, to get their gear. Just as many people, commmit the above crimes, just for cash, which as part of their lifestyle, will go on drink, and fags. There are c**ts in all walks of life, and good folk as well. That goes for the drug world like owt else. Interestingly, there are more 'social' heroin users, i.e those with families, jobs etc, who fund their drug use through thewir wages, than there are down and dirty 'smack rats'. This is way way way too big a topic to discuss tit for tat over a forum, and very emotive. But i would love t sit down with some of you and have a proper chin wag over it, and take you to see some things . . . . ive got a family member who`s an addict ive seen some things mate, ive seen him try to commit suicide 3 times, ive seem him rob his dieing mother, ive seen him try to get himself locked up to try to get off it numerous occasions so sorry mate i would be hard to convince anything other than zero tollerance would work. Well zero tolerance doesnt work does it . . . .. and that my friend is the point. It does not work! So time for a new approach! Why waste money, time and effort fighting a war you are losing, and making things worse, when you can try other approaches. Its like afghan - invade under the guise that it will mean less smack gets to the u.k. It has meant more than ten times the smack has got to our shores. ZERO TOLERANCE DONT WORK. We need to get smart my friend! As a society, there are lots of things that we don't tolerate but they still happen......that in itself is no reason to start tolerating these things is it? IMHO to much liberal attitudes and tolerating that which we previously would not has contributed to the total f*****g mess we see in society today.......if anything we should start to tolerate less then maybe we could get back to some sort of sanity !!! Just tell me where the f*****g line gets drawn with all the drugs, what are we saying weed is ok but smack is still bad?.......if we tolerate that, then what not crack?........if we let a homosexual legally bugger a boy of 16 then why not 12?...... Less toleration and more condemnation is what this world needs IMHO 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Catcher 1 639 Posted March 7, 2012 Report Share Posted March 7, 2012 Iam sure we all have a few friends who smoke cannabis. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
PlasticJock 539 Posted March 7, 2012 Report Share Posted March 7, 2012 Paulus----- http://flatearthnews...r-against-drugs i know all that but take ketamin great when used as an animal tranqiliser not so good when taken for a buzz. But ketamin was designed for animals! Each to their own mate, if tobacco was introduced now the government said they'd make it class A straight away. To me it's mostly drug MISUSE. They were mostly designed to do something good, but people misuse them. It's the people that's the problem, not the drug. It's easier to ban objects than deal with the people responsible (for example the gun laws). and therin lies the reason for keeping them illegal. very few people would rob their granny of her wedding ring for a packet of fags. Lets be honest, it is a minority of substnce misusers who commit crime in the form of robbing the helpless, to get their gear. Just as many people, commmit the above crimes, just for cash, which as part of their lifestyle, will go on drink, and fags. There are c**ts in all walks of life, and good folk as well. That goes for the drug world like owt else. Interestingly, there are more 'social' heroin users, i.e those with families, jobs etc, who fund their drug use through thewir wages, than there are down and dirty 'smack rats'. This is way way way too big a topic to discuss tit for tat over a forum, and very emotive. But i would love t sit down with some of you and have a proper chin wag over it, and take you to see some things . . . . ive got a family member who`s an addict ive seen some things mate, ive seen him try to commit suicide 3 times, ive seem him rob his dieing mother, ive seen him try to get himself locked up to try to get off it numerous occasions so sorry mate i would be hard to convince anything other than zero tollerance would work. Well zero tolerance doesnt work does it . . . .. and that my friend is the point. It does not work! So time for a new approach! Why waste money, time and effort fighting a war you are losing, and making things worse, when you can try other approaches. Its like afghan - invade under the guise that it will mean less smack gets to the u.k. It has meant more than ten times the smack has got to our shores. ZERO TOLERANCE DONT WORK. We need to get smart my friend! As a society, there are lots of things that we don't tolerate but they still happen......that in itself is no reason to start tolerating these things is it? IMHO to much liberal attitudes and tolerating that which we previously would not has contributed to the total f*****g mess we see in society today.......if anything we should start to tolerate less then maybe we could get back to some sort of sanity !!! Just tell me where the f*****g line gets drawn with all the drugs, what are we saying weed is ok but smack is still bad?.......if we tolerate that, then what not crack?........if we let a homosexual legally bugger a boy of 16 then why not 12?...... Less toleration and more condemnation is what this world needs IMHO Honestly? I sort of agree, but the 'condemnation' boils down to bulls**t expensive and ineffective laws. Why people need their hands held throughout life is beyond me... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
foxfan 479 Posted March 7, 2012 Report Share Posted March 7, 2012 I have lived a very sheltered life so an explanation would be nice if you can give one, one that's a little better than we can't stop it so we may as well say its ok!!! You can't stop people murdering their wife buts it's hardly a case for making it legal is it! Hmmm worth thinking about though. Killing your wife?? No, making it legal. It's was a joke you feckin divvy. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
stabba 10,745 Posted March 7, 2012 Report Share Posted March 7, 2012 How many of you have got close family members on smack(heroin)?.well ive got 6..yes 6...i wouldnt piss on any of them if they were on fire..dirty lowlife thieving scum who were brought up to know better than to stick that shit into their system.. All are grown men now and each of them have tried their hand at dealing at some stage or another. Imo all dealers should be shot on sight simply because of the misery they bring to the families of those who have a habit. I have tried most things once meself but thats just it..once..whats hard about saying no? atb stabba 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
paulus 26 Posted March 7, 2012 Report Share Posted March 7, 2012 I have lived a very sheltered life so an explanation would be nice if you can give one, one that's a little better than we can't stop it so we may as well say its ok!!! You can't stop people murdering their wife buts it's hardly a case for making it legal is it! Hmmm worth thinking about though. Killing your wife?? No, making it legal. It's was a joke you feckin divvy. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
WILF 46,769 Posted March 7, 2012 Report Share Posted March 7, 2012 Mate, if wasting money is what it takes to preserve a little bit of sanity then waste away i say. Think of everything that we used to find abhorrent that is now an every day occurrence, homosexuality, drug use, un married mothers with multi ethnic and multi fathered children. Terrorists and hate preachers allowed to say what they like because it's their human right? We tolerate every c**t and I f*****g hate it, and IMHO to legalise drugs would be yet another drip in the slow drowning of our society.......it's time to stop saying things are ok!!!! Years ago we used to lock these people up, now we give them a handout and put them on some type of programme.....and can any of us say hand on heart that our world is a better place for all of our liberal tolerant attitudes? 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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