drug dealers??

[GrCh 856]

You can tell which people are brainwashed by the government propaganda very easily, anyone who says 'drugs' but never acknowledges the different types. You can use any statistic and prove alcohol is infinitely more damaging in every way than weed, but the brainwashed masses sit on their bar stools looking down on those enjoying a spliff and a quiet evening. How anyone can venture into a town centre having to dodge round sick on the pavement and honestly say weed is worse needs a slap and an education.

 

The 'war on drugs' or whatever you call it, has failed. It will always fail. The daftest comments are 'drug dealers ruin lives and families', have any of the people saying this ever taken drugs themsevles? I would bet 'no', which is exactly my point. You CHOSE not to, whilst you might also choose to make any number of other poor decisions, which is part of living in a free country. Should everything considered 'bad' be illegal, like gambling, drinking, hunting (or have they just listened to propaganda???), unhealthy food, non-eco cars etc etc etc. You are free to eat a big mac, yet you know it is damaging you and the NHS spends billions trying to cope with obesity, so are you the scum of the earth? A ciggy can kill you, leaving your kids without a parent...it's all just hypocritical.

 

(I am referring to weed, which is separate to heroin for those who can't tell the difference)

 

Weed can be a gateway to harder drugs, I agree with some of your points like people should be allowed to have a 'J' in their own house. I think certain people ruin it for others dont know about the area you live in but round my way the local spar stinks of weed every night from the local chavs, should people have to put up with that? Before you get defensive i smoke the odd spliff but I do it in the comfort of my own home.

[top hat 127]

personally id do anything to put food on the table .If i lost my job and my back was to the wall id sell my soul

[GrCh 856]

personally id do anything to put food on the table .If i lost my job and my back was to the wall id sell my soul

 

Dont let lab-tastic know that mate.

[top hat 127]

personally id do anything to put food on the table .If i lost my job and my back was to the wall id sell my soul

 

Dont let lab-tastic know that mate.

lab has tasted me before i was too rich for him lol

[Ratreeper 441]

You can tell which people are brainwashed by the government propaganda very easily, anyone who says 'drugs' but never acknowledges the different types. You can use any statistic and prove alcohol is infinitely more damaging in every way than weed, but the brainwashed masses sit on their bar stools looking down on those enjoying a spliff and a quiet evening. How anyone can venture into a town centre having to dodge round sick on the pavement and honestly say weed is worse needs a slap and an education.

 

The 'war on drugs' or whatever you call it, has failed. It will always fail. The daftest comments are 'drug dealers ruin lives and families', have any of the people saying this ever taken drugs themsevles? I would bet 'no', which is exactly my point. You CHOSE not to, whilst you might also choose to make any number of other poor decisions, which is part of living in a free country. Should everything considered 'bad' be illegal, like gambling, drinking, hunting (or have they just listened to propaganda???), unhealthy food, non-eco cars etc etc etc. You are free to eat a big mac, yet you know it is damaging you and the NHS spends billions trying to cope with obesity, so are you the scum of the earth? A ciggy can kill you, leaving your kids without a parent...it's all just hypocritical.

 

(I am referring to weed, which is separate to heroin for those who can't tell the difference)

 

Weed can be a gateway to harder drugs, I agree with some of your points like people should be allowed to have a 'J' in their own house. I think certain people ruin it for others dont know about the area you live in but round my way the local spar stinks of weed every night from the local chavs, should people have to put up with that? Before you get defensive i smoke the odd spliff but I do it in the comfort of my own home.

 

There are definitely nobs, but I think it is wrong to smoke ciggies around kids or non-smokers too (I smoke myself). But I don't think there is any harm in something doing a bit of fishing, camping or whatever and having a J if that is what you are inclined to do (it hardly harms anybody else, they might get offended but why do they have a right to not be?).

 

But I don't think it is wrong to make a bad decision, it is just bias opinions that dictate what people label as acceptable. Obesity is a perfect example, the NHS spend around £4-6 BILLION due to people eating too much, £1.7 BILLION due to alcohol and the list goes on. I can't even find the cost weed causes, funny that...So why should you be made to feel like a criminal hiding in your own home? I don't mean to sound defensive, but this subject really winds me up with the backwards arguments people come out with, straight from shit they get told think.

[cammy12 176]

i would say

You can tell which people are brainwashed by the government propaganda very easily, anyone who says 'drugs' but never acknowledges the different types. You can use any statistic and prove alcohol is infinitely more damaging in every way than weed, but the brainwashed masses sit on their bar stools looking down on those enjoying a spliff and a quiet evening. How anyone can venture into a town centre having to dodge round sick on the pavement and honestly say weed is worse needs a slap and an education.

 

The 'war on drugs' or whatever you call it, has failed. It will always fail. The daftest comments are 'drug dealers ruin lives and families', have any of the people saying this ever taken drugs themsevles? I would bet 'no', which is exactly my point. You CHOSE not to, whilst you might also choose to make any number of other poor decisions, which is part of living in a free country. Should everything considered 'bad' be illegal, like gambling, drinking, hunting (or have they just listened to propaganda???), unhealthy food, non-eco cars etc etc etc. You are free to eat a big mac, yet you know it is damaging you and the NHS spends billions trying to cope with obesity, so are you the scum of the earth? A ciggy can kill you, leaving your kids without a parent...it's all just hypocritical.

 

(I am referring to weed, which is separate to heroin for those who can't tell the difference)

 

Weed can be a gateway to harder drugs, I agree with some of your points like people should be allowed to have a 'J' in their own house. I think certain people ruin it for others dont know about the area you live in but round my way the local spar stinks of weed every night from the local chavs, should people have to put up with that? Before you get defensive i smoke the odd spliff but I do it in the comfort of my own home.

i would say drink is the bigest gateway to other drugs, it makes you stupid when on it and its easy to make silly choices when pissed, drink is the bigest home/life recker in uk

[dixiebop 125]

Gnasher wasn't taking as preaching at all mate . It just some what gets on my tits when you see hard working nice people. These same people will do anything for anyone n give you their last pound. These type of people seem to put their heads down n do a job on a wage that's just enough to get by. Then you get those horrible little rich kids born into money who treat people like shit. These get too have a better life than the nice can even dream off. Not saying its like this all the time nor do I plan on being any sort of robin hood lol. It also makes me laugh when people who work moan about drug dealers when they've had a hard day. Weekend comes and they all want to powder their nose. Not sure how having to much money could be a problem though? This may sound abit soppy and like a first love but...my wage doesn't pay enough to be able to do the things I'd want to with my girlfriend or buy her what I'd love to. It doesn't allow me to treat my mum or just put down a decent amount of money n treat my family once in a while. I feel money plays a big part in relationships. Maybe because of my whole attitude on how it doesn't matter how nice you are. A saying that caught my ear was by an old reggae artist eekamouse....the greatest crime is to be poor.

MMet the man back in the 80s'(back stage at the Glasgow MAYFAIR) must have been at least 7ft ,GOOD OLD SCHOOL DANCEHALL Toasting,

The thing with Drug Dealers,is they start with Weed,then the get short supplied,then they get in some other Shit !Then their dealing with a different type of clientel,Non paying types,they then have to get said cash back,have to turn Nasty !then the spirral into Violence and Repratations begins,Try keeping your loved ones clear of that THEY cant.So they Either Have No Loved ones,or Don't give a Shit about them,Then it becomes a family business,Few have Kids that arn't Junkies or Tickets...

[WILF 46,549]

Let's have this right, anyone who knows people who have been using weed for years knows that after a while they can't function without it.

It totally alters your personality until after years your real personality is just a forgotten memory.

Let's not pretend its a harmless pastime, it's just as bad as any other drug.......you only have to see a weed head clucking to realise that!

[WILF 46,549]

I got to be honest and in secondary school I sold a little bit but to me it was easy money, I went to a grammar school and coming from the council estate I do drugs aren't a problem to get, well most the people at my school were middle classed pompous little twits and nearly all lived in places they couldn't get weed so they were will ing to pay over the odds for crap. Then when I started doing it I found an what I considered an even better deal. I'd buy 2 t's disperse one (burn all the thc crystals) getting me stoned and then cut the 2 in half, putting a good half on top the dispersed half in the baggy. Again I'd then sell these at over the odd prices, by the time they got to the disperced half they were already stoned so the taste of it in a j meant they didn't know it wasn't effecting them.

 

I also sold bits and pieces in college but mainly speed and bubble but that was due to borrowing money off the wrong person and selling kept the interest down but it was no life, being at someones beck and call. Getting phonecalls halfway through the night for people wanting to meet you for a score, you never knew who you were meeting half the time as they got my number from someone else so there was always the chance of getting bumped, putting more debt to the guy.

 

Well I eventually cleared my debt and just stopped but even now several years down the line people will ring me asking if I'm selling

 

Selling drugs to kids, your a f*****g legend you are!!......someone should have cut your f*****g fingers off ya scroat!!

Edited March 7, 2012 by WILF

[Ideation 8,216]

Weed affects most folk differently, some shouldnt smoke it, it makes them into boring, couch potatoes. At the sametime, some folk shouldnt be allowed near booze. At the end of the day, altering your consciousness, through taking some kind of drug, is older than society, or its laws. It's like owt else though, too much is no good, drugs should enhance your life (if you chose t take them) and not define your life.

 

My favourite thing about this topic is folk telling you what dealers / users do / are / want / think. . . . . . when they have never been a drug user or dealer themselves. It's bollocks, you cant comment if you have not walked in them shoes.

 

There is a MASSIVE seperation between the worlds of heroin use, and dealing, and the like, and those of soft drugs.

 

I've had plenty of friends become rich through drugs, and just as many become dead.

[twelsh 346]

drug dealing isnt as easy as you might think brings in good money but also brings the old bill knocking your door off inges scaring kids and other dealers battling each other not worth the hassle keep away from that shite

[WILF 46,549]

What's the massive difference then Ideation between a weed dealer and a heroin dealer?......educate me please.

Edited March 7, 2012 by WILF

[dixiebop 125]

Weed affects most folk differently, some shouldnt smoke it, it makes them into boring, couch potatoes. At the sametime, some folk shouldnt be allowed near booze. At the end of the day, altering your consciousness, through taking some kind of drug, is older than society, or its laws. It's like owt else though, too much is no good, drugs should enhance your life (if you chose t take them) and not define your life.

 

My favourite thing about this topic is folk telling you what dealers / users do / are / want / think. . . . . . when they have never been a drug user or dealer themselves. It's bollocks, you cant comment if you have not walked in them shoes.

 

There is a MASSIVE seperation between the worlds of heroin use, and dealing, and the like, and those of soft drugs.

 

I've had plenty of friends become rich through drugs, and just as many become dead.

Their is No Massive separation in DRUGS !maybe in a Welsh backwater ?

Your Drug Dealing Friends Getting Rich ! How that go with YOUR SGC.application I Know from Experience,they would be classed as ''KNOWN ASSOC.'' hindering any Application Up here ! .You can have Users as Friends,unwisely I may add ,but a DEALER,you cut all ties,they have chosen to be on the Outside,and more than likely chosen to punt to kids !And Before you go on about chioces .MOST kids13,14 an up aren't up to making INFORMED choices about DRUGS !!thats why you have to Counsel the Aftermath of the Bad choices. 21 an over Knock yourself out,as I did much to my Folly.Thank F@@k for the Wife and Dogs.I have no contact with my Old Crew..some who have now Passed on...

[paulus 26]

the coniquences of using drugs goes far,far beyond the user it wrecks lives, it wrecks familys, it takes away everything a person once was and turns them into some who is a shell of who and what they once were. and eventually in one way or another it kills either directly or indirectly. fact not fiction pure fact. ive seen it.

[Ideation 8,216]

I love this shit, anyone who selss drugs, obvioulsy sells to kids, accepts old ladys pension books, and kills people Deluded, you sound like the daily fecking mail!

 

The biggest damaging factor of drugs, is their illegality, which means that the momeny is put into the hands (for the large part) of those who will use it for other criminal activities, there is no quality control, which makes it a greater health risk, and it criminalises people, leading to the above mentioned situations, whereby it wrecks lifes, etc. It also makes it more difficult to get a job, post conviction, mostly leading to folk continuing to deal.

 

Drugs are here to stay, get used to it, they have alway been here. We need to massivly rethink how we deal with them, and treat it more like a public health issue!

 

Wilf - if i have to answer that, then you obviously have not had much experiance in these fields.

 

Dixi - Do you honestly think i tell my sgc issuer? And do you think said friends would be rich from it, if they were publicly known to be what they are?

 

And you quite correctly say - i see some of the very worse affects, working with the children of serious drug addicts, and children on drugs, but i am still realistic about it all.