Brother to sister mating is it to close,

[Neobliviscaris1776 1,998]

50 minutes ago, dogmandont said:

What if it doesn't need improving? What if you have everything you want and need in your animals. 

Wether you think your dog's don't need improving doesn't change anything...if you inbred heavily they will decrease in quality, that's just how breeding works, it's not my opinion, it's just what happens. For folk to think that you can continually breed from the same small gene pool of dogs and get the same results time and time again is really just ignorance.

 

50 minutes ago, dogmandont said:

I heard a well respected terrierman say if you take a pint of milk and add a spoonful of shite what are you left with. 

A pint of milk?

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[dogmandont 9,789]

17 minutes ago, Neobliviscaris1776 said:

Wether you think your dog's don't need improving doesn't change anything...if you inbred heavily they will decrease in quality, that's just how breeding works, it's not my opinion, it's just what happens. For folk to think that you can continually breed from the same small gene pool of dogs and get the same results time and time again is really just ignorance.

 

A pint of milk?

Nobody continually inbreds, it's something that's done to tighten up the line then back to close line breeding. 

Its worked for terriers so why not runners. 

[Neobliviscaris1776 1,998]

10 minutes ago, dogmandont said:

Nobody continually inbreds, it's something that's done to tighten up the line then back to close line breeding. 

Its worked for terriers so why not runners. 

I understand that mate, but you'll need to throw something into the mix thats not from your line at some point to avoid losing all your hard work. Tighten up a line yes, but if all your doing is inbreeding and line breeding it's not going to be very beneficial to the overall health of the animals in the long run. 

So what's the answer to the pint of milk question?

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[mC HULL 12,205]

1 hour ago, dogmandont said:

Nobody continually inbreds, it's something that's done to tighten up the line then back to close line breeding. 

Its worked for terriers so why not runners. 

because a terrier isn’t a performance athlete is it why don’t greyhound racehorse breeders do it ?

[mC HULL 12,205]

2 hours ago, dogmandont said:

What if it doesn't need improving? What if you have everything you want and need in your animals. 

I heard a well respected terrierman say if you take a pint of milk and add a spoonful of shite what are you left with. 

i’m amazed lads actually think it’s the done thing  

[derry lad 215]

A pint of shite 

[dogmandont 9,789]

4 hours ago, Neobliviscaris1776 said:

I understand that mate, but you'll need to throw something into the mix thats not from your line at some point to avoid losing all your hard work. Tighten up a line yes, but if all your doing is inbreeding and line breeding it's not going to be very beneficial to the overall health of the animals in the long run. 

So what's the answer to the pint of milk question?

You end up with a pint of shite because it certainly ain't milk anymore. There's lines of terriers that haven't had an out cross in a long long time and they're doing just fine. 

 

[mC HULL 12,205]

39 minutes ago, dogmandont said:

You end up with a pint of shite because it certainly ain't milk anymore. There's lines of terriers that haven't had an out cross in a long long time and they're doing just fine. 

 

some can’t see the woods for trees dc agreeing with you but i can remember a topic we’re he wasn’t breeding again because his terrier had stillborns 

inbreeding depression causes stillborns low fertility how many on here are using ai having c sections like there breeding inbred frenchies but it has nothing to do with inbreeding aye  

[mC HULL 12,205]

@thefensarefarbutistillgo next time tikka come ins season get simba over her mate what you recon you up for it  

[thefensarefarbutistillgo 2,481]

38 minutes ago, dogmandont said:

You end up with a pint of shite because it certainly ain't milk anymore. There's lines of terriers that haven't had an out cross in a long long time and they're doing just fine. 

 

As Mchull said there not performance athletes thow and are not getting there body’s and hearts put under anywhere  near as much strain as a coursing dog has on gruelling runs on a regular basis 

[thefensarefarbutistillgo 2,481]

3 minutes ago, mC HULL said:

@thefensarefarbutistillgo next time tikka come ins season get simba over her mate what you recon you up for it  

Well after reading some posts on this thread it could be the best way to go, how much you gunna charge me for stud, it seems a bit wrong putting mother to son thow

[dogmandont 9,789]

4 hours ago, mC HULL said:

i’m amazed lads actually think it’s the done thing  

It is in terriers, where have I said it's the done thing in lurchers. 

[Countryman62 541]

4 hours ago, mC HULL said:

because a terrier isn’t a performance athlete is it why don’t greyhound racehorse breeders do it ?

mC you are totally wrong about a terrier not being a performance athlete, a terrier gone to ground working Fox and Badger (historically) pushes its body through the pain barrier more than any other canine athlete could withstand, squeezing through tight, twisting tube below the sod to reach its adversary makes its muscles cramp up, its nose is without equal, its eyesight is greatly diminished below the sod but still it finds it’s quarry, it possesses the courage to face an opponent that many a bullx’s jib at and it possesses the stamina to put a Saluki to shame, it is the ultimate canine athlete, no other canine comes close to it.

[dogmandont 9,789]

17 minutes ago, mC HULL said:

some can’t see the woods for trees dc agreeing with you but i can remember a topic we’re he wasn’t breeding again because his terrier had stillborns 

inbreeding depression causes stillborns low fertility how many on here are using ai having c sections like there breeding inbred frenchies but it has nothing to do with inbreeding aye  

You starting to make yourself sound very silly now dude. 

Lads are using ai now so they're almost certain off getting a litter on the ground and are you seriously trying to tell me that the plodders never be served by artificial or don't take from natural services. Fcukin behave yourself. Lol. 

[Countryman62 541]

23 minutes ago, thefensarefarbutistillgo said:

As Mchull said there not performance athletes thow and are not getting there body’s and hearts put under anywhere  near as much strain as a coursing dog has on gruelling runs on a regular basis 

You’re obviously not talking from any experience of working a terrier