mC HULL 14,562 Posted June 8, 2022 Report Share Posted June 8, 2022 4 minutes ago, Havelightforcewilltravel said: Obviously at some point you have to breed out but then breed back in, me mate has line there and likes to keep it as tight as possible has had couple defects in odd pup but been ok tbf. it the defects you can’t see aswell though mate the greats of the coursing world were all linebred but none brother sister farther daughter that’s inbreeding linebreeding is breeding distant relatives you would get away with it don’t get me wrong but why would you want to you can linebreed for ages without an outcross from distant dogs breeding tight then having to outcross because you have bred tight defeats the object really and if you say outcross to pure saluki there is still some a that blood to outcross to again so still sort a linebreeding even with the outcross 1 Quote Link to post
Big Ron 1,182 Posted June 8, 2022 Report Share Posted June 8, 2022 3 minutes ago, mC HULL said: it the defects you can’t see aswell though mate the greats of the coursing world were all linebred but none brother sister farther daughter that’s inbreeding linebreeding is breeding distant relatives you would get away with it don’t get me wrong but why would you want to you can linebreed for ages without an outcross from distant dogs breeding tight then having to outcross because you have bred tight defeats the object really and if you say outcross to pure saluki there is still some a that blood to outcross to again so still sort a linebreeding even with the outcross It’s line breeding when it works out and inbreeding when it don’t do you keep a line ? What’s wrong with father ‘ to daughter or brother sister ? 5 Quote Link to post
Black neck 16,572 Posted June 8, 2022 Report Share Posted June 8, 2022 6 minutes ago, Big Ron said: It’s line breeding when it works out and inbreeding when it don’t do you keep a line ? What’s wrong with father ‘ to daughter or brother sister ? Never done me no harm 4 Quote Link to post
mC HULL 14,562 Posted June 8, 2022 Report Share Posted June 8, 2022 4 minutes ago, Big Ron said: It’s line breeding when it works out and inbreeding when it don’t do you keep a line ? What’s wrong with father ‘ to daughter or brother sister ? i hear that a lot on here i always thought it’s inbreeding when you breed sister to brother daughter to farther breeding cousins or great grandfather great grand uncle to grandchildren is linebreeding i’m not daft enough to try to keep a line i don’t breed enough dogs to keep it healthy and doing the do what people think they can breed there own line off a few inbred matings must really have poor standards both my dogs are linebred the pups i have off them are linebred if they don’t work out and parents don’t produce i will go source a pup same lines and try again im not desperate to say this is my line i want good killers i couldn’t give a toss if it’s my line i know what lines produce them 3 Quote Link to post
Deerhunter1 772 Posted June 8, 2022 Report Share Posted June 8, 2022 32 minutes ago, mC HULL said: i hear that a lot on here i always thought it’s inbreeding when you breed sister to brother daughter to farther breeding cousins or great grandfather great grand uncle to grandchildren is linebreeding i’m not daft enough to try to keep a line i don’t breed enough dogs to keep it healthy and doing the do what people think they can breed there own line off a few inbred matings must really have poor standards both my dogs are linebred the pups i have off them are linebred if they don’t work out and parents don’t produce i will go source a pup same lines and try again im not desperate to say this is my line i want good killers i couldn’t give a toss if it’s my line i know what lines produce them If pups didn’t work out and parents didn’t produce why would you source more from same lines? Surely you’d try something bred a different way Quote Link to post
mC HULL 14,562 Posted June 8, 2022 Report Share Posted June 8, 2022 7 minutes ago, Deerhunter1 said: If pups didn’t work out and parents didn’t produce why would you source more from same lines? Surely you’d try something bred a different way because the line produces doesn’t mean every dog bitch in it will mate Quote Link to post
Deerhunter1 772 Posted June 8, 2022 Report Share Posted June 8, 2022 3 minutes ago, mC HULL said: because the line produces doesn’t mean every dog bitch in it will mate I’m not big on pedigrees tbh I just put a good bitch to a good dog it’s worked for me, but if I got a pup from a certain line and it failed I wouldn’t be sticking money in the man’s hand for another that’s for sure 1 Quote Link to post
mC HULL 14,562 Posted June 8, 2022 Report Share Posted June 8, 2022 2 minutes ago, Deerhunter1 said: I’m not big on pedigrees tbh I just put a good bitch to a good dog it’s worked for me, but if I got a pup from a certain line and it failed I wouldn’t be sticking money in the man’s hand for another that’s for sure what if you have had good from that line before ? not everyone makes the grade mate and most lines been about ages there is more than one person to source from Quote Link to post
shaaark 11,003 Posted June 8, 2022 Report Share Posted June 8, 2022 7 minutes ago, mC HULL said: what if you have had good from that line before ? not everyone makes the grade mate and most lines been about ages there is more than one person to source from Hey, come on now, Magoo, you're starting to sound pretty sensible!! Whatever next?!! 1 Quote Link to post
Deerhunter1 772 Posted June 8, 2022 Report Share Posted June 8, 2022 9 minutes ago, mC HULL said: what if you have had good from that line before ? not everyone makes the grade mate and most lines been about ages there is more than one person to source from How do you know your old one wasn’t a one off though? And how do you know who the honest men are that’s got the line? Quote Link to post
mC HULL 14,562 Posted June 8, 2022 Report Share Posted June 8, 2022 6 minutes ago, Deerhunter1 said: How do you know your old one wasn’t a one off though? And how do you know who the honest men are that’s got the line? if there has been better than what you have had threw the years yours wasn’t a one off mate and you have to go with the men you think a good with a dog mate but good blood will always shine through Quote Link to post
mC HULL 14,562 Posted June 8, 2022 Report Share Posted June 8, 2022 8 minutes ago, shaaark said: Hey, come on now, Magoo, you're starting to sound pretty sensible!! Whatever next?!! all i talk in sense shaark as you grow older and wise up you will see i was talking sense all along mate 1 Quote Link to post
Deerhunter1 772 Posted June 8, 2022 Report Share Posted June 8, 2022 3 minutes ago, mC HULL said: if there has been better than what you have had threw the years yours wasn’t a one off mate and you have to go with the men you think a good with a dog mate but good blood will always shine through These dogs that were better than yours how many you seen run? In the flesh like not on tape? See what I’m getting at you get yourself a dog and it fails, so you go straight back to the same line based on stories about dogs you’ve not seen, that’s how a lot of lads end up with shit dogs cause they go off what they been told not what they seen Quote Link to post
mC HULL 14,562 Posted June 8, 2022 Report Share Posted June 8, 2022 6 minutes ago, Deerhunter1 said: These dogs that were better than yours how many you seen run? In the flesh like not on tape? See what I’m getting at you get yourself a dog and it fails, so you go straight back to the same line based on stories about dogs you’ve not seen, that’s how a lot of lads end up with shit dogs cause they go off what they been told not what they seen but if you have seen and had good dogs from lines you won’t want out else mate but not every dog from it will make the grade i couldn’t go from stopping them most times out to stopping one in a blue moon the dog would have to go whether i bred it or not mate lads end up with shit because there unlucky or aren’t getting dogs from litters were it clicks Quote Link to post
low plains drifter 10,949 Posted June 8, 2022 Report Share Posted June 8, 2022 43 minutes ago, shaaark said: Hey, come on now, Magoo, you're starting to sound pretty sensible!! Whatever next?!! Are you Magoos great grand uncle? Quote Link to post
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