scotty2306 37 Posted February 29, 2012 Report Share Posted February 29, 2012 thanks for the replys if i could find the right dog i wouldnt contemplate using his sister but cant find the right dog, if your dog and your mates dog do the buisiness and have both got all the qualities you are wanting your pup to have go ahead and line it,it is ok to do this kind of mating but not over and over again. Quote Link to post
whisperingeye 27 Posted February 29, 2012 Author Report Share Posted February 29, 2012 thankyou some sensible replys, Quote Link to post
spec 45 Posted February 29, 2012 Report Share Posted February 29, 2012 is there no dogs out of the same litter that've bred a decent bitch you could put him over, so you'd be using his niece not sister? that's probably the way I'd want to go. Quote Link to post
Sherlock 42 Posted February 29, 2012 Report Share Posted February 29, 2012 Skycat is absolutely correct when she uses cleft palate deformity as an example as how recessive traits can come to the fore when using brother and sister matings . How ever it must be remembered that only 25% of the offspring will develope the cleft palate. Of the remainder 50% will carry the gene without showing the deformity, while the remaining 25% will neither carry or show the deformity.The only problem at the moment is that it is impossible to distinguish between carriers and none carriers , but a DNA test may become available very shortly. The breeder has to decide if the amount of risk is acceptable. Cheers Sherlock. Quote Link to post
Ferretman65 2,177 Posted June 8, 2022 Report Share Posted June 8, 2022 On 28/02/2012 at 16:20, whisperingeye said: well really as topic says is this mating to close to call as i have a good dog and want to ask my mate to put him on his sister which he has, We had two greyhounds brother and sister mating accidental the pups won races now not top grade But all the same got a turn out off them 1 Quote Link to post
Deerhunter1 771 Posted June 8, 2022 Report Share Posted June 8, 2022 (edited) Depends if the men doing the breeding have looked at the dogs faults honestly or not, seen it happen lads that kennel blind, think there dogs are perfect but ignoring major faults then they put mother to son, father to daughter or full brother sister matings & they end up with loads of problems Edited June 8, 2022 by Deerhunter1 3 Quote Link to post
D Lloyd 2,790 Posted June 8, 2022 Report Share Posted June 8, 2022 On 28/02/2012 at 18:15, jcm said: This isnt a dig but would you have a baby with your brother or sister ? no she's hanging 1 Quote Link to post
Ferretman65 2,177 Posted June 8, 2022 Report Share Posted June 8, 2022 13 minutes ago, D Lloyd said: no she's hanging The romans and.the Egyptians inbreed for hundreds of years not saying its right But dogs we put father over daughter and we have put grandfather over granddaughter with no problems at all that's going back alot off years now Quote Link to post
mC HULL 12,243 Posted June 8, 2022 Report Share Posted June 8, 2022 11 minutes ago, Ferretman65 said: The romans and.the Egyptians inbreed for hundreds of years not saying its right But dogs we put father over daughter and we have put grandfather over granddaughter with no problems at all that's going back alot off years now not needed seen it a few times never been on par with parents always some in litter shite coats some that have fits Quote Link to post
OldPhil 5,675 Posted June 8, 2022 Report Share Posted June 8, 2022 Perhaps its a wee bit anthropomorphic,.. to randomly compare Humans,.. to Canines.... Personally, I've bred my lurchers fairly close, but never quite, that close,...but then,.. I've often wondered what would happen 'in the wild'... I've a feeling , what would be, would be... Would our beloved curs and running dogs ever really worry,.. about such matters.... 2 Quote Link to post
mC HULL 12,243 Posted June 8, 2022 Report Share Posted June 8, 2022 (edited) 9 minutes ago, OldPhil said: Perhaps its a wee bit anthropomorphic,.. to randomly compare Humans,.. to Canines.... Personally, I've bred my lurchers fairly close, but never quite, that close,...but then,.. I've often wondered what would happen 'in the wild'... I've a feeling , what would be, would be... Would our beloved curs and running dogs ever really worry,.. about such matters.... i think wolves don’t even breed siblings or parent child phil i think foxes do because watching them urban they seem to get smaller year on year i think in the wild they would worry once they can’t see to chase are to small have fits and a jaw like a british bulldog and humans a million percent can’t inbreed for hundreds a years one mating you will see eyes out a line ears low slung bad eye sight not to mention behaviour problems Edited June 8, 2022 by mC HULL Quote Link to post
Havelightforcewilltravel 417 Posted June 8, 2022 Report Share Posted June 8, 2022 If you have line of dogs and want to keep the quality’s they have you have to breed tight a think then you know why your getting before there even born. 1 Quote Link to post
mC HULL 12,243 Posted June 8, 2022 Report Share Posted June 8, 2022 2 minutes ago, Havelightforcewilltravel said: If you have line of dogs and want to keep the quality’s they have you have to breed tight a think then you know why your getting before there even born. the best coursing dogs are linebred how many from breeding mother son sister brother mate ? 1 Quote Link to post
Havelightforcewilltravel 417 Posted June 8, 2022 Report Share Posted June 8, 2022 18 minutes ago, mC HULL said: the best coursing dogs are linebred how many from breeding mother son sister brother mate ? Obviously at some point you have to breed out but then breed back in, me mate has line there and likes to keep it as tight as possible has had couple defects in odd pup but been ok tbf. Quote Link to post
Deerhunter1 771 Posted June 8, 2022 Report Share Posted June 8, 2022 46 minutes ago, mC HULL said: not needed seen it a few times never been on par with parents always some in litter shite coats some that have fits I’ve seen some similar, bad coats, feet etc, always getting knocked up, couldn’t really put your finger on it but just seemed fragile, like a little knock that another dog would shrug off seemed to have em out of action for weeks 1 Quote Link to post
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