Brother to sister mating is it to close,

[Wxm 1,638]

Just out of interest is it full brother full sister or are they half ??? Also I'm sure I seen somewhere that Plummer did this sort of mating ?? maybe wrong thou

[THELURCHERANDLONGDOG 91]

How old are the dogs in question just out of interest ?

[whisperingeye 27]

9 yrs old and yes full siblings both tested to the hilt

Edited February 29, 2012 by whisperingeye

[North east finest 105]

me firends got a pup there whats full brother to sister mating nothing wrong with any pups out of that litter

[slips 114]

out crossin is a swear word to some folk keep it tight its the only way forward if you want to keep what you like cos when its gone its gone breed em

[asanley 1,009]

A fella I know did the brother / sister mating , and while there was nothing physically wrong with the offspring , he did struggle a bit in school .

[Lab 10,979]

A fella I know did the brother / sister mating , and while there was nothing physically wrong with the offspring , he did struggle a bit in school .

He still turned out not to bad though mate............. and now you mention it have you had a postcard from Sweden lately?

[Sherlock 42]

Whisperingeye, I have keeped and bred canaries since 1994, I have tried inbreeding line breeding and out crossing. Last year with my top stud bird I mated him with four different hens his sister,his aunt, his grandmother and an unrelated out cross. In total 29 young were produced all are fit and healthy whilst showing no defects. This current breeding season the same stud bird will be mated to 2 of his daughters from his sister mating, he will also be mated to one of his aunts daughters . The fourth hen he will be mated to is his great great great grandfathers daughter. You have received a lot of advice from other members tell you not to try this cross, I would say go for it, nothing ventured nothing gained. The only problem that I can see is that not many people would want to own one of your inbreds so you might have to cull hard. I would be interested to know how your dog is bred. Cheers and good luck Sherlock.

 

 

[asanley 1,009]

Whisperingeye, I have keeped and bred canaries since 1994, I have tried inbreeding line breeding and out crossing. Last year with my top stud bird I mated him with four different hens his sister,his aunt, his grandmother and an unrelated out cross. In total 29 young were produced all are fit and healthy whilst showing no defects. This current breeding season the same stud bird will be mated to 2 of his daughters from his sister mating, he will also be mated to one of his aunts daughters . The fourth hen he will be mated to is his great great great grandfathers daughter. You have received a lot of advice from other members tell you not to try this cross, I would say go for it, nothing ventured nothing gained. The only problem that I can see is that not many people would want to own one of your inbreds so you might have to cull hard. I would be interested to know how your dog is bred. Cheers and good luck Sherlock.

 

No shit Sherlock

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

sorry mate , I just had to say it

[whisperingeye 27]

thankyou sherlock,

[skycat 6,173]

Breeding that close will throw up deformities etc only if there are recessive genes on both sides which when doubled up, combine to have a bad effect: bit like breeding merle to merle, which can throw deaf, blind pups.

Say that both brother and sister are carrying, but not showing, a gene for cleft palate for example. By putting them together you'll get pups with cleft palates. You should only breed that close if you know for certain that there are no problems back in the line: with lurchers that may well be very difficult as so many people don't know the exact breeding of their dogs, nor if any of the ancestors had any problems.

[tofast4thelight 2]

did you say 9 yr old let the bitch be she to old

[THELURCHERANDLONGDOG 91]

How old are the dogs in question just out of interest ?

 

The old fella's say its called line breeding if it works and inbreeding when it dont , the reason i asked the age is that i would have prefered to take the b1tch back to her sire to hold the line but if he isnt available anymore you dont have a lot of choice , good luck with wotever you decide to do

[juckler123 707]

Done it once all the litter had heart defects its up to you at the end of the day but i wouldnt half brother to half sister or aunts and uncles to nephews and neices and grandparents to grandkids is as close as id be going.

[toby1066 413]

9s not too old if the bitch has had pups before but its a bit old for a frst litter